Anthropomorphically speaking, could this be also 1 of “The Signs & Wonders” of “The Coming of “The MORNING STAR”

[GodB4Us]

It would seem you are promoting sign to wonders after rather than Prophecy .Big difference.

Again Jesus said it an "evil generation" that seeks after lying wonders. No sign to seek after were given. We walk by faith the unseen eternal not my sight that seen the temporal

Once again, we can see signs that He is coming soon, but no one can know the day nor the hour for why we are always supposed to be abiding in Him for when He does come; and since death can strike at any moment, all the more.

 

[Garee]

Once again, we can see signs that He is coming soon, but no one can know the day nor the hour for why we are always supposed to be abiding in Him for when He does come; and since death can strike at any moment, all the more.

The Bible says no sign is given . The signs that are spoken of in Mathew 24 are sign of the times life going on as it was in the days of Noah before the flood came .

 

[GodB4Us]

The Bible says no sign is given . The signs that are spoken of in Mathew 24 are sign of the times life going on as it was in the days of Noah before the flood came .

Then why did Jesus refer to the fig tree?

Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

 

[GodB4Us]

Good luck on those prayers, unless you asking for a “Miracle”!

I thing you are right about that one.

At my expense,

No one needs power to believe and repent of their sins.

Funny how the Father has to draw us unto the Son ( John 6:44 ) to reveal His Son to us ( Matthew 11;25-27 ) so we can believe in Him & be saved as it is by not believing in Him is how sinners are condemned already John 3:18 Our believing in Him is a work of God Himself John 3:21 So why brag about free will of man when man is a slave to sin for why God has to draw us to the son to reveal His son to us so we can believe?

We have to do more than believe.
We have to believe that we have to obey him.

We have to believe He will do His work in us so we can obey Him in following Him John 6:28-29

Right, and we have to confess and repent of our sins before we are saved.

Sinners that are slaves to sin need to hear the hope that Jesus Christ came to save sinners from their sins so they will no longer live in them; therefore the only repentance required is to believe in Him.

Otherwise salvation is not born of God but of the will of the flesh and the will of man since he has to repent from all sins before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

You don't sound like a person who ever gave up anything for Jesus.

I run that race by faith in Jesus Christ as my Good Shepherd to help me lay aside every weight & sin daily,

Whereas you say you had to repent from all sin before you got saved but guess what? Later on you found out about other sins you needed to repent of so now what? Were you saved then when you finally repented of all sins or were you saved back then the first time which you claimed you had repented from all sins for when you were saved?

And I say you are saved when you had first believed in the Lord Jesus Christ and that God has raised Him from the dead and that is the gospel paul had preached and I do not see anything in that gospel presentation about repenting from all sins first. Romans 10:8-17 KJV

Who goes against obeying Jesus and repenting of sins if they ever obeyed Jesus then they would feel the power in it.
Jesus says his words are Spirit and life.
You don't get the Spirit unless you obey his words.
Just believing his words are nothing.
Believe all the scriptures where he says that.

No way. Faith alone is dead, and we are blessed if we don't just hear but actually obey.

lol

Eternal life is the prize. You should make a thread on it. I have so many scriptures to show you.


Romans 2:5 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

bam

That is about running that race as His disciple in being received by the Bridegroom as that vessel unto honor in His House that will never die like the angels and never marry either & live in the City of God..

You aren't telling the truth.
Give the scripture that says that. You can't.
The Galatians were talked into the purification works, like circumcision and the observance of special days.

The problem here is that you limit that works of the law to only purification works when the works of the law under the Old Covenant was to make the Jewish people the people of God, as well as obtain eternal life by. So my quoting scripture in Galatians for you to dismiss it entirely as only pertaining to purification works is vain. How about Romans in how grace is not of works?

Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

How about how Abraham was NOT justified by works before God but for something else.. by believing God!

Romans 4:1What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

So are you working for your salvation? Then you do so out of debts. You should run that ace out of joy, knowing you are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and He will even carry you all the way Home for believing in Him to do it.

I can show you many people who believe in Jesus and don't obey. That is because of people like you.

Not when I have been warning all believers just as Jesus has warned His disciples that they can be left behind for not abiding in Him & His words as His disciples, and that includes believers that believe faith without works being dead applies to faith in Jesus Christ for salvation which is without works. Running that race for obtaining salvation is a work of iniquity because that work denies Him as the Savior as able to save all those who believe in Him, even in His name.

We run that race as saved believers and we run with confidence in the Lord Jesus Christ to deliver us from ever evil work and to preserve us unto His heavenly kingdom.

2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

 

[GodB4Us]

The Bible says no sign is given .

For those seeking salvation, no sign is given other than the sign of Jonah.

The signs that are spoken of in Mathew 24 are sign of the times life going on as it was in the days of Noah before the flood came .

The reference to the days of Noah is for us to be always ready because it will be normal life for us then as it is now.

Any saved believer thinks about repenting from sin tomorrow, you better go before that throne of grace today for help to repent now because the Bridegroom is coming soon.

Any sinner that thinks about putting off calling on Jesus to save them from their sins and giving them eternal life should call on Jesus now.

1 Thessalonians 5:1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

As it is...signs that we are near is why Jesus referred to the parable of the fig tree.. even at the door for why unrepentant believers and sinners better get ready now or else. Think of the beginning of sorrows like birth pangs as it increases, one may see how it is at the door for why we should be ready to go now by His grace & by His help.

Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows..... 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Do read verses 32-33 above since Jesus did refer to the parable of the fig tree in seeing the signs that we are near and at the door. I'm not citing any day nor hour but giving the call to get ready to go by Jesus Christ or else.

 

[God's Truth]

At my expense,

So it is so bad and it is making fun of you that I agreed with someone else that it would take a miracle for you to change your beliefs? You just are not right in the heart.

 

[God's Truth]

"No one needs power to believe and repent of their sins."

Funny how the Father has to draw us unto the Son ( John 6:44 ) to reveal His Son to us ( Matthew 11;25-27 ) so we can believe in Him & be saved as it is by not believing in Him is how sinners are condemned already John 3:18 Our believing in Him is a work of God Himself John 3:21 So why brag about free will of man when man is a slave to sin for why God has to draw us to the son to reveal His son to us so we can believe?

I have explained this to you in great detail, but you go on as if you were shown the truth.
In the scripture John 6:44 about God drawing them...they were drawn to Jesus BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZED WHAT JESUS WAS SAYING AS THE WORDS they had learned before from God!
READ the VERY NEXT scripture and it will tell you!

45It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

See that? Your false teachers didn't notice that part and they taught that God does some supernatural enabling. They taught falseness. You have now heard the truth, so what are you going to do?

 

[God's Truth]

We have to believe He will do His work in us so we can obey Him in following Him John 6:28-29

Those scriptures DO NOT say what you just said they say!

God only works in those who are saved.

God does not work in the unrepentant unbelievers.

 

[God's Truth]

Sinners that are slaves to sin need to hear the hope that Jesus Christ came to save sinners from their sins so they will no longer live in them; therefore the only repentance required is to believe in Him.

No such thing what you say, for faith alone is DEAD. We have to confess to Jesus and repent of our sins. We have to tell Jesus we are sorry for those sins and don't want to do them anymore.

Otherwise salvation is not born of God but of the will of the flesh and the will of man since he has to repent from all sins before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ.

It. is. NEVER EVER WRONG, to obey. Jesus!
Just listen to yourself, pretending people are cursed for obeying Jesus. Where do you think you got that from? Not from the Bible!

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

The scriptures just got through speaking about JOHN THE BAPTIZER being the witness. The witness says to prepare the way for the Lord by repenting of your sins!

I run that race by faith in Jesus Christ as my Good Shepherd to help me lay aside every weight & sin daily,

Jesus does help us with sins we have a hard time overcoming. However, Jesus isn't helping the person that didn't repent of those sins, and, what do you mean by "lay aside every weight & sin daily"??? Where is that in the scriptures? Show the scripture that says that. How long have you been a Christian? Are you sinning daily and so much so that it is heavy? What do you mean Jesus lays it aside for you?

Whereas you say you had to repent from all sin before you got saved but guess what? Later on you found out about other sins you needed to repent of so now what?

I said if there is a sin you realized was a sin later, then repent of it too. The point is that if you confess the sins you are doing. Don't say people don't know what a sin is WHEN THE BIBLE TELLS US.

Were you saved then when you finally repented of all sins or were you saved back then the first time which you claimed you had repented from all sins for when you were saved?

You are just being snide, for you know I explained this to you before.
We have to repent of our sins to get saved.
We have to know what they are, read the Bible.

And I say you are saved when you had first believed in the Lord Jesus Christ and that God has raised Him from the dead and that is the gospel paul had preached and I do not see anything in that gospel presentation about repenting from all sins first. Romans 10:8-17 KJV

Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

Acts 26:20 First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.


Did you read that? Are you going to stop saying that Paul didn't preach to repent of SINS?

You should be glad to have the truth and be thankful for hearing it.

 

[God's Truth]

The problem here is that you limit that works of the law to only purification works when the works of the law under the Old Covenant

The WORKS OF THE LAW are the purification works!!!
What do you think the works of the law are?!

was to make the Jewish people the people of God, as well as obtain eternal life by. So my quoting scripture in Galatians for you to dismiss it entirely as only pertaining to purification works is vain. How about Romans in how grace is not of works?

Paul in GALATIANS SAYS it is about observing special days and getting CIRCUMCISED!

Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

That is about the works of the law---the purification works of the law!!!

Just read Paul YOURSELF HE TELLS YOU!

Romans 2:25 Circumcision has value if you observe the law, but if you break the law, you have become as though you had not been circumcised.

Romans 2:26 So then, if those who are not circumcised keep the law’s requirements, will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised?

Romans 2:27The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who, even though you have the written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

Romans 2:28A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.

Romans 2:29No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

Romans 3:1What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision?

Romans 4:11 And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.

 

[God's Truth]

Romans 4:1What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

I already explained this to you, you are a copy/paste poster, not a debater!
Tell me what did Abraham find PERTAINING TO THE FLESH?
That is about circumcision of the flesh.

So are you working for your salvation? Then you do so out of debts. You should run that ace out of joy, knowing you are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and He will even carry you all the way Home for believing in Him to do it.

Jesus' powerful words are Spirit and life and there is nothing I would rather do than obey him. No one is saved unless they do. And, if they do believe and obey him, but preach the falseness that you do, then they are ensnared by the devil, just like the BIBLE SAYS.

Not when I have been warning all believers just as Jesus has warned His disciples that they can be left behind for not abiding in Him & His words as His disciples, and that includes believers that believe faith without works being dead applies to faith in Jesus Christ for salvation which is without works. Running that race for obtaining salvation is a work of iniquity because that work denies Him as the Savior as able to save all those who believe in Him, even in His name.

The sad thing is that you preach falseness, and you hinder people from getting saved and knowing God the Father.

We have to repent of our sins, as John the baptizer said, and Jesus says himself, and even Paul, and even Jesus after ascending to heaven in Revelation!

I wish I had known the truth about repenting of sins to be saved, my life would have been so much better and not the hard times.

We run that race as saved believers and we run with confidence in the Lord Jesus Christ to deliver us from ever evil work and to preserve us unto His heavenly kingdom.

2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

I asked you this before and just like the false teacher you are you didn't answer. Tell me now, do you think Paul is speaking of himself as a sinner?!

 

[GodB4Us]

So it is so bad and it is making fun of you that I agreed with someone else that it would take a miracle for you to change your beliefs? You just are not right in the heart.

Yeah.. on a second thought, it is not so bad even though initially, I took offense. I apologize for not turning the other cheek. Better to have not mentioned it at all, but too late. Guess you will have to forgive me.

 

[GodB4Us]

I have explained this to you in great detail, but you go on as if you were shown the truth.
In the scripture John 6:44 about God drawing them...they were drawn to Jesus BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZED WHAT JESUS WAS SAYING AS THE WORDS they had learned before from God!
READ the VERY NEXT scripture and it will tell you!

45It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

See that? Your false teachers didn't notice that part and they taught that God does some supernatural enabling. They taught falseness. You have now heard the truth, so what are you going to do?

Thing is... they were taught of God ( the Father ) and has learned of the Father as the One that taught them as He is the One that reveals His Son to those that seek so that they can believe in Jesus Christ and be saved. See that?

 

[GodB4Us]

Those scriptures DO NOT say what you just said they say!

God only works in those who are saved.

God does not work in the unrepentant unbelievers.

Then you are forgetting how no man can come to the Son unless the Father draws him per John 6:44 and you are forgetting how the father hides the truth from the wise and yet reveals the truth unto babes for why it is not of religious men like you Matthew 11 :25-27 Indeed, religious men like you are called to come to learn of Him to find your rest for your souls in Him so that as you follow Him, you will find why His yoke is easy & His burden is light in living by faith in Him Matthew 11:28-30. Little children are free to come to the Lord and all they can do is trust Him at His word for how they are saved simply by believing in Jesus Christ. Mark 10:13-15

 

[GodB4Us]

No such thing what you say, for faith alone is DEAD. We have to confess to Jesus and repent of our sins. We have to tell Jesus we are sorry for those sins and don't want to do them anymore.

What is Jesus doing in the latter part of verse 8 for what we are all suppose to hope in Him for?

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure..... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Are you the one that delivers yourself from every evil work & sin or is it Jesus Christ?

2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Does make me wonder what you give thanks to the Father for in Jesus's name besides your meals.

What do you hope in Jesus Christ for? Or is your hope on yourself to obey and save yourself as if under the Old Covenant?

 

[GodB4Us]

The WORKS OF THE LAW are the purification works!!!
What do you think the works of the law are?!

Let's look at what Jesus said to that rich guy that kept the ten commandments for why he was keeping the ten commandments and that was to make himself good and for obtaining eternal life.

Matthew 18:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

I see that as God saying we cannot save ourselves but God can. How? By believing in Jesus Christ that God can save you just for believing in Him. Jesus Christ is able to save those who believe in Him.

 

[GodB4Us]

I already explained this to you, you are a copy/paste poster, not a debater!
Tell me what did Abraham find PERTAINING TO THE FLESH?
That is about circumcision of the flesh.

You keep missing how Abraham was justified by believing God and not about any work Abraham did and so therefore it is not about circumcision. And you missed how we are saved without works because Jesus saved us by believing in Him..

Romans 4:1What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

 

[PloughBoy]

“The Law of GOD” is Good! It is a School Master”!

Famous quote: paraphrased.
“lORD Command me what thou has Commanded me to do”

“Give, O Lord, what Thou commandest, and then command what Thou wilt.“

By
“ Aurelius Augustine”

 

[God's Truth]

Yeah.. on a second thought, it is not so bad even though initially, I took offense. I apologize for not turning the other cheek. Better to have not mentioned it at all, but too late. Guess you will have to forgive me.

Why would you have had to turn the other cheek when I didn't slap you?

 

[God's Truth]

Thing is... they were taught of God ( the Father ) and has learned of the Father as the One that taught them as He is the One that reveals His Son to those that seek so that they can believe in Jesus Christ and be saved. See that?

The scripture says they recognized what Jesus was saying as the words of God AND THAT IS WHY THEY WERE DRAWN TO JESUS.