Are some people predestined for hell no matter what they do.

[Butch5]

John 14:16 KJV. He may abide with you for ever.
John 14: 17 KJV. Because it sees him not, neither knows him not but we know Him for he dwellleth with you.....ff.
Just keep reading chapter 14 the Holy Scripture refers to the Holy Spirit as he, him, and it always speaks of the Holy Spirit in Capital letters.

That's because the translators believe the Holy Spirit is he. In the Greek text the pronoun is in the neuter gender. It should be translated "it" not "He".

 

[PloughBoy]

Yes sounds about right because GOD is not a human being. Neither male or female. Mmmmm. Sounds just like what we are going to be “there are neither male or female, Jew or gentile in Christ Jesus” Sounds like, we are going to be just like the SON of GOD. You think the Son of GOD looks like His daddy?

 

[Butch5]

Yes sounds about right because GOD is not a human being. Neither male or female. Mmmmm. Sounds just like what we are going to be “there are neither male or female, Jew or gentile in Christ Jesus” Sounds like, we are going to be just like the SON of GOD. You think the Son of GOD looks like His daddy?

I believe Jesus is still in the flesh. I believe He looks like He did when He was on earth.

 

[PloughBoy]

I don’t think human flesh can sit on the right hand of the Father! That is pure Holiness, I think one would have to have a Glorified body to be in the presence of God the Father. Don’t you?

 

[Butch5]

I don’t think human flesh can sit on the right hand of the Father! That is pure Holiness, I think one would have to have a Glorified body to be in the presence of God the Father. Don’t you?

He does have His glorified body. He was resurrected. He said he was flesh and bome. According to John Jesus was still in the flesh when he wrote 1 John

 

[PloughBoy]

When Rose from the grave He still had holes in his body, your resurrected body will not be a earthly body, a earthly body is not a glorified body it is just a mere grain.. it does not yet appear what we will look like but when we see Him we will look just like Him.

 

[Curtis]

I believe Jesus is still in the flesh. I believe He looks like He did when He was on earth.

Jesus right now looks nothing like he did on earth!!

Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

 

[PloughBoy]

Flesh and bone do not inherit eternal life.

 

[Butch5]

When Rose from the grave He still had holes in his body, your resurrected body will not be a earthly body, a earthly body is not a glorified body it is just a mere grain.. it does not yet appear what we will look like but when we see Him we will look just like Him.

The Greek word that is translated resurrection means to stand again. It's the same body. If people got a different body it wouldn't be resurrection it would be reincarnation

 

[Butch5]

Jesus right now looks nothing like he did on earth!!

Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Rev 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Jesus also appears in Revelation as a lamb having been slain having 7 eyes. Would you suggest that is what He looks like. It's a book of symbolism.

 

[PloughBoy]

The Greek word that is translated resurrection means to stand again. It's the same body. If people got a different body it wouldn't be resurrection it would be reincarnation

Well He was standing with holes.

 

[Butch5]

Well He was standing with holes.

He was. I would guess he still has them, but that's just a guess.

 

[Curtis]

He does have His glorified body. He was resurrected. He said he was flesh and bome. According to John Jesus was still in the flesh when he wrote 1 John

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

All resurrected bodies will be a spiritual body that has no flesh, and bone!

Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

That means Jesus was still in his physical body for 40 days, and nights until his ascension to his Father!

 

[Butch5]

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

All resurrected bodies will be a spiritual body that has no flesh, and bone!

Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

That means Jesus was still in his physical body for 40 days, and nights until his ascension to his Father!

The word spiritual is an adjective. It modifies a noun. It give qualities. Spiritual body means a body having qualities of the spirit. It doesn't mean a non physical body. After Jesus was resurrected He had a flesh body. According to the apostle John Jesus still had a flesh body when he 1 John.

 

[Butch5]

Flesh and bone do not inherit eternal life.

Corruptible flesh and bone don't inherit the kingsom.

 

[PloughBoy]

He was. I would guess he still has them, but that's just a guess.

I believe He is on the throne on the right hand of the Father in Glorified form. And one day, we will behold Him. Children of GOD what a day it is going to be. HE is going to have dry away our tears. For the Kingdom of God is yours!

 

[Curtis]

The word spiritual is an adjective. It modifies a noun. It give qualities. Spiritual body means a body having qualities of the spirit. It doesn't mean a non physical body. After Jesus was resurrected He had a flesh body. According to the apostle John Jesus still had a flesh body when he 1 John.

phyoo-mat-ik-os'

From G4151; non-carnal, that is, (humanly)

Non "carnal" means "non flesh" Jesus said he had a flesh and bone body at that time but, a spirit does NOT have flesh, and bone!

 

[Butch5]

phyoo-mat-ik-os'

From G4151; non-carnal, that is, (humanly)

Non "carnal" means "non flesh" Jesus said he had a flesh and bone body at that time but, a spirit does NOT have flesh, and bone!

Jesus was a man, not a spirit.

 

[Curtis]

Corruptible flesh and bone don't inherit the kingsom.

You think the Apostles saw Jesus the same way John saw him in Revelation chapter one? Not a chance!!!

 

[Butch5]

You think the Apostles saw Jesus the same way John saw him in Revelation chapter one? Not a chance!!!

John was seeing a vision in Revelation