Can not know the Lord without Repentance??

[At Peace]

• That is simple many don't.
• Here are some people who probably didn't know what sin is and still believe they were saved: Matthew 7: 21-23

You forgot that part where Jesus says..."ye workers of iniquity"
This whole cited scripture is about those calling themselves "Christian" while still committing iniquity.
And like you, they are aware of it...some even defending it.
James writes..."But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." (James 1:14-15)
To be unaware that something you are tempted with, enticed to do, fulfills a lust, and is actually brought to fruition can hardly be done without ones conscience weighing in on the matter.

• The ancient Israelite's were given the 10 commandments because they knew not sin.
  [*]Even St. Paul: Romans 7:7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "You shall not covet." Paul was an Pharisee or a Pharisee to be and, he knew the commandments as as well as any but, not until he was saved did he understand what sin was.

You don't think Abraham knew that murder, adultery, and rape were sins?
You don't think Joseph's brothers knew the death of their brother would be a sin?
Why then did the one brother want to sell him to the traders instead of killing him?
Conscience forced Joseph's brother to alter their plans.

As for Paul...and all men, don't you think Paul knew theft was wrong before he was a law keeper?
It may not have been labeled "sin", but surely he knew it was wrong.

 

[At Peace]

Again go beyond the big 10.
There are sins in a man's life that will take God to reveal them.

You are dreaming up things so you can eventually tell God..."I didn't know that was a sin".
To your own doom.

 

[At Peace]

Pray you don't get judged by your standards.

I already have been.
"The wages of sin is death"...right? (Rom 6:23)
Paul writes..."Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; (death), and some men they follow after." (1 Tim 5:24)
I suffered my death, for my sins, when I was crucified with Christ. (Rom 6:3-7)
Verse 7..."For he that is dead is freed from sin."
And thanks be to God, I was also "raised with Christ to walk in newness of life".
I am a new creature now, born of God's incorruptible seed.

 

[At Peace]

Again go beyond the big 10.
There are sins in a man's life that will take God to reveal them.

Don't you mean the big 2?
Love God above all else and love your neighbor as yourself?

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Only the mentally challenge can get away with that excuse.


Your expectations of Christians is wrong.
Just because men say they are followers of Christ doesn't mean it is true.
Those who commit sin certainly are NOT followers of Christ/Christian.

You are dreaming up things so you can eventually tell God..."I didn't know that was a sin".
To your own doom.

What are you talking about?
At least make sense here

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

I already have been.
"The wages of sin is death"...right? (Rom 6:23)
Paul writes..."Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; (death), and some men they follow after." (1 Tim 5:24)
I suffered my death, for my sins, when I was crucified with Christ. (Rom 6:3-7)
Verse 7..."For he that is dead is freed from sin."
And thanks be to God, I was also "raised with Christ to walk in newness of life".
I am a new creature now, born of God's incorruptible seed.

I apologize sir, I did not know you don't really understand .

Blessings to you

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Don't you mean the big 2?
Love God above all else and love your neighbor as yourself?

No not at all.
You seem to only recognise these big common sense things as sin.

That's why I asked so many questions.
All your answers were the same.
So I will leave it at that.
You really need to broaden your understanding of sin.

Blessings to you

 

[Dave M]

No not at all.
You seem to only recognise these big common sense things as sin.

That's why I asked so many questions.
All your answers were the same.
So I will leave it at that.
You really need to broaden your understanding of sin.

Blessings to you

I concur with brother Jim

@peice you are your own worst enemy in thinking you know everything I say this with Love brother please do not be offended but someone needs to tell you . but you need to realize that practicing sin is what you are speaking of when you say you do not sin anymore and that is what I think most of us all have in common I dont think a born again Christian can practice sin, which is to sin on purpose as a lifestyle with no regret, we all agree on that I think.

where you seem to be in disagreement is you think that means you are sinless and I can not speak for you but I know I sin by accident not on purpose with much regret. For example just yesterday I was driving in a lot of traffic with a big trailer and people would not let me over in a turn lane I got mad with out even thinking about it, according to the bible that is a sin, but no I did not do it on purpose and do not normally get mad so easy. And yes I spoke with God about it, Who among us can say they never get mad when driving a car ever?

understanding the difference between practicing sin that is to live in sin on purpose and accidental sinning is to understand we are not perfect and constantly maturing, people sin and do not even realize it, for example you do some great work for the poor and you blast it all over the internet and tell everyone about it you are being prideful in most cases.

 

[B-A-C]

Gal 5:19; Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20; idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
Gal 5:21; envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

It's a good thing we never see arguing, bickering, and strife here on TalkJesus

 

[Dave M]

Gal 5:19; Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,
Gal 5:20; idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
Gal 5:21; envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

It's a good thing we never see arguing, bickering, and strife here on TalkJesus

or

1 Samuel 2:3
Talk no more so very proudly, let not arrogance come from your mouth; for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.

 

[Born Again 2004]

Don't you mean the big 2?
Love God above all else and love your neighbor as yourself?

• @ At Peace, I have read all you have to say since coming to TJ and, as you probably mean well, you remain so misguided. This latest about sin and man is no exception....you just don't get it or understand it. A God given good conscience, absolutely, unequivocally has nothing to do with knowing what sin is.
• You teach false doctrines.
• The conscience which the Bible defines is not necessarily our intuitive sense of right and wrong; that twinge of guilt which we may have after certain thoughts or behavior. All men (and animals) have such a streak in them; yet a good conscience is associated with holding the true faith (1 Tim. 1:3-5,19 3:9)
• 1 Tim 1:3-5
• 1 Tim 3:19
• 1 Tim 3:9

 

[At Peace]

I concur with brother Jim

@peice you are your own worst enemy in thinking you know everything I say this with Love brother please do not be offended but someone needs to tell you . but you need to realize that practicing sin is what you are speaking of when you say you do not sin anymore and that is what I think most of us all have in common I dont think a born again Christian can practice sin, which is to sin on purpose as a lifestyle with no regret, we all agree on that I think.

where you seem to be in disagreement is you think that means you are sinless and I can not speak for you but I know I sin by accident not on purpose with much regret. For example just yesterday I was driving in a lot of traffic with a big trailer and people would not let me over in a turn lane I got mad with out even thinking about it, according to the bible that is a sin, but no I did not do it on purpose and do not normally get mad so easy. And yes I spoke with God about it, Who among us can say they never get mad when driving a car ever?

understanding the difference between practicing sin that is to live in sin on purpose and accidental sinning is to understand we are not perfect and constantly maturing, people sin and do not even realize it, for example you do some great work for the poor and you blast it all over the internet and tell everyone about it you are being prideful in most cases.

Do you understand Jesus' words about "grape vines cannot bring forth figs and fig trees cannot bring forth grapes"?
The reborn are now of God's seed, they are unable to commit even one sin.
They cannot bring forth evil fruit.
One sin, or one sin a month, both manifest a seed from which evil fruit CAN come.
That seed is not of God. (1 John 3:5-10)

 

[At Peace]

No not at all.
You seem to only recognise these big common sense things as sin.

That's why I asked so many questions.
All your answers were the same.
So I will leave it at that.
You really need to broaden your understanding of sin.

Blessings to you

Can you name a sin that isn't covered by the big 2?

 

[At Peace]

• @ At Peace, I have read all you have to say since coming to TJ and, as you probably mean well, you remain so misguided. This latest about sin and man is no exception....you just don't get it or understand it. A God given good conscience, absolutely, unequivocally has nothing to do with knowing what sin is.
• You teach false doctrines.
• The conscience which the Bible defines is not necessarily our intuitive sense of right and wrong; that twinge of guilt which we may have after certain thoughts or behavior. All men (and animals) have such a streak in them; yet a good conscience is associated with holding the true faith (1 Tim. 1:3-5,19 3:9)
• 1 Tim 1:3-5
• 1 Tim 3:19
• 1 Tim 3:9

Jesus said the truth would set you free. (John 8:32-34)
What were you freed from?

 

[Born Again 2004]

Jesus said the truth would set you free. (John 8:32-34)
What were you freed from?

From indignant false prophets like you!

 

[At Peace]

or

1 Samuel 2:3
Talk no more so very proudly, let not arrogance come from your mouth; for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.

Iron sharpens iron. (Pro 27:17)
The responses I receive to my tough questions help prepare me for when I am on the street trying to convince men that they can live without sin.
I am grateful for the practice.

 

[At Peace]

From indignant false prophets like you!

Had you read the scripture, you would have been able to read..."Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."
I was freed from service to sin.
And I thank God in Jesus' name for my freedom.

 

[Born Again 2004]

Had you read the scripture, you would have been able to read..."Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin."
I was freed from service to sin.
And I thank God in Jesus' name for my freedom.

Contextually, what the Bible says above is truth but within the confines of our conversations, as usual, you talk gibberish . If it was just me,you might have a leg to stand on but, I see many brothers here trying to tell you truth but you have no clue!.... I stand by what I said!

 

[Wired 4 Fishen]

Can you name a sin that isn't covered by the big 2?

Not following you here.

 

[Born Again 2004]

No not at all.
You seem to only recognise these big common sense things as sin.

That's why I asked so many questions.
All your answers were the same.
So I will leave it at that.
You really need to broaden your understanding of sin.

Blessings to you

Try reading a Commentary or two! I hate to see it @At Peace but I am afraid for you and your bondage to untruth, you can change before it is too late!