Gospel in the stars? Opinions please-

[Zscripture]

The Fishes

VII. Pisces. The Fishes. The symbols consist of two large fishes, one headed toward the North Polar Star the other parallel with the path of the Sun. They are some distance apart but are bound together by a Band, which is also fastened to the neck of Cetus the sea monster. The zodiac of Denderah has the name Pisces Hori meaning the fish prolonged, giving the idea of successive generations. The Hebrew name is Dagim which means the fishes, as do the Arabic and Greek names denote the fishes also. In the fish shooting upward is pictured the heavenly calling of Israel, and her functioning as His Kingdom, fulfilling its spiritual requirements. The other, keeping on the horizontal, answers to the fact that the Kingdom is established upon the earth and is inheritor not only of the spiritual blessings but of the material blessings and promises made to Abraham and his seed. Being two in number expresses the potential of multitudes, as we find in Gen. 48:16, Jacob blesses the two sons of Joseph, saying

GE 48:16 May they be called by my name
and the names of my fathers Abraham and Isaac,
and may they increase greatly
upon the earth."

This was a continuance of God’s covenant with Abraham.

GE 22:17 I will surely bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as the sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of the cities of their enemies, 18 and through your offspring {Christ}all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

 

[Zscripture]

The Band

1. The Band. The Arabic name of this star group is Al Risha meaning the band. The Egyptians called it U-or meaning He cometh. This corresponds to the relationship of the Coming One to His redeemed

HOS 11:4 I led them with cords of human kindness,
with ties of love;

The bands that bind the fishes are also fastened to the neck of Cetus, the sea-monster, which shows that Israel is bound and oppressed by the enemies of God. But – her deliverance is near, pictured by the paw of the Ram lying across the doubled part of the band as though about to loosen the bands and set the captives free. Jesus redeemed Israel and set them free from the penalty of the law so that they could again become His people and establish His Kingdom on Earth.

JER 31:11 For the LORD will ransom Jacob
and redeem them from the hand of those stronger than they.

 

[Christan]

Good Work Z So write me an email and we will get tis things started.I need you to read the Yahoo setup .Im going there now

 

[Zscripture]

The Chained Woman

2. Andromeda. The Chained Woman. The idea of bondage is more ancient than the maiden, the Arabs pictured a seal. The zodiac od Denderah is pictured the woman named Set, which means set, set up as queen. In Hebrew she is Sirra meaning the chained. The brightest star in her head is called in Arabic Al Phiratz meaning the broken down. Other stars are Mirach meaning the weak, Al Anak meaning struck down, Mizar meaning the weak, and Al Mara meaning the afflicted. Thus all the stars speak to us of Israel today, a captive daughter of Zion, bound and fettered (economically and spiritually) waiting for the Coming One for deliverance from her enemies who encompass her within and without.


SA 52:2 Shake off your dust;
rise up, sit enthroned, O Jerusalem.
Free yourself from the chains on your neck,
O captive Daughter of Zion.

ISA 52:3 For this is what the LORD says:
"You were sold for nothing,
and without money you will be redeemed."

The stars of Andromeda were known to Chaldea centuries before Greek and Roman legends. Israel is the beautiful Andromeda. Redeemed at Calvary, she is still surrounded by world power, jealous of her material blessings, who hate her and threaten her destruction. One will come to rescue and deliver the fair maiden, to make her His own glorious bride.

 

[Zscripture]

The Crowned King

3. Cepheus. The Crowned King. Representation of a crowned king wearing his royal robe and enthroned in the highest heaven. He bears aloft a sceptre and his foot is over the Pole – star. The Greek name means the branch, the Ethiopian name is Hyk meaning a king. The Egyptians called this constellation Pe-ke-hor meaning this one cometh to rule. The brightest star in the right shoulder is called Al Deramin which means coming quickly. The next brightest is is Al Phirk meaning the Redeemer. The 3rd brightest star is called Al Rai meaning who bruises. Christ has been invested in with all the Royal rights and dominion In Cepheus we have the glorious King of Israel.

PS 33:11 But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever,
the purposes of his heart through all generations.

PS 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD,
the people he chose for his inheritance.

 

[Zscripture]

Christan,
Thank you. I sent you an email, the other day and after I seen your post above I wrote.
Did you get them?
It is strange that my emails worked before and now they do not, there is nothing in the sent folder even though I send, I will try it again.

 

[Zscripture]

Email

Any one know of any dependable online email providers?

 

[Christan]

Yahoo mail do It Z When I get my site up you can have one of the emails if possible I have a load of hit and miss to get this site up.Support seems pretty bad 24 hours of nothing but I will fish for a few good ones and use them.I suggest you setup as many free email sites as possible netsacape Yahoo Hotmail Google.Then you will have alternatives if one shuts down.I am going to see about tranfering my Netscape account to firefox.They are married .

 

[Zscripture]

Christian,
Thank you. I will do a search when I can to check into Yahoo, Google, Hotmail, and Netsacape. The best to you toward your getting your web-page as you envisioned.

 

[Zscripture]

Aries

VIII. Aries. The Ram (Lamb).The figure of a Lamb. The Hebrew name is Taleh meaning the lamb , the Arabic name is Al Hamal meaning the sheep, in Syrian it is called Amroo meaning the lamb -

John1:2 9 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world ! “

The ancient Akkadians called this figure Baraziggar, “ Bar “meaning altar or sacrifice and “Ziggar “ meaning right making - the sacrifice of righteousness. The zodiac of Denderah has a lamb without horns crowned with a circle called Tamelouris Amon meaning the reign, dominion. The chief star (in the forehead ) is named El Nath or El Natik which means wounded, slain. In the year of the Crucifixion of Jesus this chief star shown overhead at the noonday darkening of the sun, on the Day the Lamb of God was slain. The next brightest is Al Sheratan meaning the bruised or the wounded.

REV5:1 “ Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise! “

Some ancient pictures of this constellation show a picture of a triangle over the head of the Lamb, which the Greeks said exhibited the name of the Deity it was supposed to represent. This explanation can only be
indicative of a truth once known but lost: the mystery of the Trinity, One God in three persons. This truth was evidently made known to our ancient descendants and fore told in Aries .

 

[mymakersdaughter]

Zscriptures, you have put a lot of time and effort into your search and knowing the scriptures. This is very fasincating reading.

 

[Zscripture]

mymakersdaughter,
Thank you! This is a first writting of it for me, after it is completed and printed out I could perhaps word it differently or better - keeping the same deep truths, and perhaps going in to more Scriptures.

 

[Zscripture]

The Enthroned Woman

1. Cassiopeia. The Enthroned Woman. The symbol of a queenly woman, matchless in beauty, seated in exalted dignity. In one hand she holds aloft the branch of victory and triumph, and in the other she is spreading and arranging her hair. The Arabic name for this constellation is El Seder meaning the freed, the Chaldean name is Dat al cursa meaning the enthroned. In the zodiac of Denderah her name is Set which means set up as Queen. Four stars of the 3rd magnitude form the seat upon which this woman sits. The brightest star( in the left breast) is Schedir which in Hebrew means the freed. The next brightest star (in the top of the chair) is Caph meaning the branch. This is Andromeda freed, delivered and enthroned. Seated upon the Artic circle, and close by Cepheus, the King, she portrays the picture of restored Israel, the bride of the Lamb -

ISA 54:5 For your Maker is your husband--
the LORD Almighty is his name--
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

ISA 54:6 The LORD will call you back
as if you were a wife deserted and distressed in spirit--
a wife who married young,
only to be rejected," says your God.

ISA 54:7 "For a brief moment I abandoned you,
but with deep compassion I will bring you back.

ISA 54:8 In a surge of anger
I hid my face from you for a moment,
but with everlasting kindness
I will have compassion on you,"
says the LORD your Redeemer.

ISA 54:9 "To me this is like the days of Noah,
when I swore that the waters of Noah would never again cover the earth.
So now I have sworn not to be angry with you,
never to rebuke you again.

ISA 54:10 Though the mountains be shaken
and the hills be removed,
yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken
nor my covenant of peace be removed,"
says the LORD, who has compassion on you.

Christ’s love to His church is compared to a husbands love for his wife, the church is not the Bride of Christ, it is the Body of Christ, part of the Husband in fact. Israel is to be the Lamb’s wife.

 

[Bobinfaith]

Dear Brothers and sisters,

I was impressed with this thread, thank you, Zscripture, for sharing scripture. However, I do not know anything about astronomy, astrology, except it is a very interesting study for many persons.

What concerns me is if the astronomy, astrology, (the prediction that influences events by positioning of stars and planets, and the "ancient truths" is not mentioned word for word in the bible then to me, it compromises God's Word. Therefore, I cannot be in agreement with your analogy of the combined astronomy, astrology, and the bible.

I am grateful to God that since the beginning of my studies of the Word my mind has been filled with the Truth of God. My mind is not a battle-ground of indecision about what is true and what is false, over things which minister questions rather than Godly edifying.

The goal of excellent ministering and servanthood is Godliness, His Word, His Truth. We use all the means of His grace, prayer, bible study - not a cross reference to justify worldy topics, the Lords Table, confession of sin, active service, accountability, in the disciplines of Christian principles.

Your servant in Christ Jesus.

 

[Gloria]

Deut. 18:10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an OBSERVER OF TIMES, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer
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I believe "observer of times" means astrology, signs of the zodiac, following the stars, etc and is forbidden in scripture.

 

[Gloria]

I do not believe it is pleasing to God to follow the stars but we should follow Him. We shouldnt get involved in horoscopes. People put their trust in that instead of putting their trust in God. Its like telling fortunes ,which is forbidden, because they read it to see what their future is instead of letting God lead them by His Spirit. I hear people say "what sign were you born under"? It doesnt matter when i was born- what matters is I was born AGAIN under the sign of the CROSS. -The cross Jesus that gave His life on for me and all who will recieve Him as Lord and Savior.

 

[mymakersdaughter]

I do not believe that zscripture is advocating "following the stars," horoscopes are against God.

 

[Zscripture]

Bobinfaith,
Your welcome for the Scripture. As you see by my name the value I too have of it. I respect you are not in agreement with me and all I ask was your opinion, thank you for your reply.
It is great you can focus on ministering and edifying!
My study is not one to justify “worldly topics” by any means, let me quote one of my favorite passages –

ROM 3:21 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished-- 26 he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.

 

[Zscripture]

Gloria,
Thank you for your thoughts! God, Yehovah is the Creator, I worship Him. He is my Crown of Beauty and I adore Him.
You said “I believe "observer of times" means astrology, signs of the zodiac, following the stars, etc and is forbidden in scripture. “
What about the three who followed the star in the Gospels?
To me the verse you quote denotes the occult, from the placements of the constellations in regards to planets telling what activities are appropriate I do not seek, I set forward their ancient root meanings. How does my study of the ancient zodiac and the ancient star names created by the Creator fall into this category?
Let me quote the verse from the NIV

DT 18:10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12

 

[Zscripture]

Mymakersdaughter,
Thank you.
No, I do not advise the following of horrorscopes. Nor do I advise the following of asktrology.