Have we been invaded By the Nominals, are they leading and growing strong in Their Proclamation into Their Agenda

[PloughBoy]

Who is in Control?

Westminster Confession of 1646: Of God's Eternal Decree

" God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass,"

 

[Br. Bear]

Who is in Control?

Westminster Confession of 1646: Of God's Eternal Decree

" God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass,"

Their Agenda

who's agenda?

 

[PloughBoy]

New Living Translation
And if our hope in Christ is only for this life, we are more to be pitied than anyone in the world.

English Standard Version
If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied.

Glad to see you covered this, and with a verse, even, that has both church and Christian in it. (A twofer !!)
I had thought about it, but then decided to make that point later.
Interesting, though, that "Christian" was intended to be derisive.

The word is used three times in the New Testament, and each time as a term of reproach or derision. Here in Antioch, the name Christianos was coined to distinguish the worshipers of the Christ from the Kaisarianos, the worshipers of Caesar. The city of Antioch in Syria had a reputation for coining nicknames. ​

- Wuest, Kenneth Samuel (1973) pg. 19. Wuest's word studies from the Greek New Testament​

As a bonus, Christians were called Atheists because they did not believe in the gods.

I will admit, though, that I'm puzzled about where PloughBoy is going with this.
Possibly intrigued.

Rhema

BTW - the Greek word is Χριστιανός, which is transliterated as Christianos ( Latin - Christiani ). In case you receive objections to that.

So that is your "Justification" in proving me wrong. That GOD or JESUS The Anointed One "The WORD of GOD" never mention or called HIS followers or HIS people "the church" or "christians".

One of our "GREATEST" Enemy is "The Perfect ADVERSARY" and one of his greatest weapons, is called "DECEPTION" and he got that weapon as a "GIFT, " from "The LORD his GOD , who is "The ALMIGHTY GOD" The Maker of "ALL Creation"

Berean Study Bible
Am I now seeking the approval of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ.

 

[PloughBoy]

who's agenda?

Webster 1828

AGEND'A, noun [Latin things to be done.]
A memorandum-book; the service or office of a church; a ritual or liturgy.


English Standard Version
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

 

[PloughBoy]

So you think "church" is added to this verse?

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.​

(Matthew 16:18 KJV)​

What of this verse?

And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.​

(Matthew 18:17 KJV)​

And this one?

Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.​

(Acts 2:47 KJV)​

Was it "added" here too?

And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.​

(Acts 5:11 KJV)​

Here?

This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:​

(Acts 7:38 KJV)​

And what of the other ONE HUNDRED AND TEN times where the word "church" is found ?? Are all of these "added" too ?? Or is that what the Greek word ἐκκλησία actually means? If not, then pray, do tell... what does the word ἐκκλησία actually mean?


Which "WORD of GOD" ?? When you say, "The WORD of GOD," which Word are you speaking of? (You would understand the question if you read Greek.) And there are some of us who actually read this "Original Copied Manuscript" you know...

Rhema

Well ain't that the ever luvin' truth.

Rhema said:
Well ain't that the ever luvin' truth.

LOL

 

[Br. Bear]

who's agenda?

Webster 1828

AGEND'A, noun [Latin things to be done.]
A memorandum-book; the service or office of a church; a ritual or liturgy.


English Standard Version
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.

so, who's agenda ?

Who is in Control?

Westminster Confession of 1646: Of God's Eternal Decree

" God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass,"

 

[Garee]

Three passages with the word "Christian" are

1 Peter 4:16
Acts 26:28
Acts 11:26

I'm not sure that the word was intended to be derogatory, but certainly it was the word that people outside the church gave to the believers. I think the insiders' name was "followers of the way". In any case, in nearly 2000 years, the word "Christian" has lost any negative shade - it just means someone who follows Christ.

On the word "church" in the Bible. The Greek word is "ekklesia" and it's better translated "congregation" or "assembly". "Church" has its roots in the germanic word "Kirke".

the Darby translation has Matthew 16:18

"I also, I say unto thee that thou art Peter, and on this rock I will build my assembly, and hades' gates shall not prevail against it."

Anyway, I happily describe myself a as Christian who belongs to a church. If I need to be theologically precise, I'll use "congregation" instead, but not often.

I have also heard it is a derogatory name supposedly named by those who hate the gospel .That turned out to be lie, I would think it is a wile of the father of all lies. His goal to keep the division according to the outward flesh of a Jew and destroy the rigorousness of Zion the heavenly unseen city .

The father preaching the gospel in Isaiah below promised the righteousness of Christ is executed as salvation that the gentiles as well as the Jews together by the new named the father named the bride in Acts . . .Christian

Isaiah 62:1-2 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

The word Christian in respect to the inspired foundation with no other meaning added represent the promise in Isaiah 62 of the beautiful city . The father renaming the bride of Christ the church previously caller her Israel (not all Israel is born again Israel as sons of God ). Some remain un converted as outward Jew according to the flesh Not born again Spirit of Christ .

The word used is a demonym . . a noun used to denote the natives or inhabitants of a particular country, state, city, etc. like Galatians residents of the city of Galatia named after it founder or any of the city as to groups of people .like the Nicolaitanes a sect

Christian with no other meaning added meaning;. . residents of the beautiful city prepared as the bride of Christ the church, named after Christ the husband
and founder .

A more befitting name as the bride of all nations .

Much of it according to my experience seems to have gotten lost. and confusion between the Jews and gentiles remains the same for some who do hope the flesh could profit for something . Even knowing we do not wrestle against flesh and blood.

 

[PloughBoy]

I am 70 years old, I was "Born of GOD" "Born of His Spirit" in the year 1977 about the 4th week in March. at my place of Employment and 0ver 500 people knew it, within 24 hours. Greeks, Rednecks, Hispanics, Jews, Syrians, Yugoslavians, Italians, Polish, Blacks, White, Germans, christians, non-christians, Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Jehovah Witness, Southern Baptist, Methodist, baptist, Holiness, Greek Orthodox, and Atheist, Dope Dealers, Marijuana Smokers, Acid Dropper,. Purple HAZE dropper, LSD Droppers, CEO's, General Managers, Millionaires, Secretaries, Superintendences, Labor leaders, Police officers, Motorcycle Club members. Kung Fu, Instructors, Pilots, Scuba Divers Club Members in 24 hours
These people have know me and my father for over ten years!

But that Day When in The Twinkling of the eye "The SPIRIT of THE LIVING GOD" Touch My Soul! Wooooooo! And set my Soul ON FIRE! EveryBody knew! Many had never saw anything like it, in their life! Both Christians and non Christians THEY said they have never seen any thing like that in their Life! And I was not speaking in "TONGUES"! I was speaking in a "LANGUAGE" that everyone knew and It was about JESUS! And The Corporation owners say let him ALONE, and let him "Proclaim" "The Gospel ACCORDING To JESUS CHRIST" and I didn't even belong to any body's church! My daddy tried to stop me, But they told him to leave me alone! And let Me speak! And that day I told "hundreds if they didn't not Repent, that they was going to HELL! "Signs and Wonders".....And they was Listening, i could see it, in their eyes! And a many of them got saved and filled with the HOLY GHOST! and many said they wanted what I got, But not that much! some said. LOL! They watch me change before their eyes! Not in church, at my place of employment! yes they did! When i got home, i was not the same man!

And my wife as time went past. She told me you are not the same man i married. and it hurt her! I sold my "motorcycle", i stop taking her dancing, , i did not smoke weed any more i did not party any more, But i didn't stop her. I just told her i would prefer her to stay at home. I went back to college, I took care of the kids... Church people told her i was going to get my degree and get another wife and leave her. You talking about demonic attacks from church people, it almost drove her crazy. Jealousy is Cruel as the grave! My wife is a unregenerated person! And they kept feeding her stuff like that! Like she has become a person "BORN of GOD" So many lies told to her by the churches and church people! They are going to pay a cost, what they done to my family!

Most churches treat their members like all of them are "Born of GOD" "Born of His SPIRIT" and a lot of people do not like liars, and especially people who love to lie about the ways of GOD! Giving people a false since of "Security ". But when they find out about the lies that are being told by there own personal study! They do not want no part of the christian life! They like Jesus, but the christians are another thing. It is a known fact In "The JUDICIAL System" that christians are know to be liars! But they need your vote! Christians have a bad reputation. I been all over these United States , i know what people say about christians.
Only christians church going people give a good report about one another. But you are reliable voters So you are not going to be told the truth about what they think of you and how you are...! THEY OWN MY WIFE SO MUCH MONEY! PASTOR, PASTORS WIVES, DEACONS, AND MEMBERS OF THE MANY CHURCHES! I told her one day stop taking appointments form church going christians! These people are not poor, They go on cruises, vacations, Disney World, fly out of the country and brag to her where they been and they will not pay their "Bills". My wife have cried a many of nights form these christian"patients' who will not pay her, but live, Lavish lives. Known fact in the professional community!

The Truth sometimes hurt. And for me, i got more trust in a non christian or "Atheist" or a Muslim than a christian that says He believes in Jesus Christ or GOD!

I got my own history AND Biblical History, TO KNOW WHO TO TRUST More.

New International Version
It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in humans.
New Living Translation
It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in people.
English Standard Version
It is better to take refuge in the LORD than to trust in man.

Then Sunday Morning comes "SHOUTING PRAISE GOD From whom ALL BLESSING FLOW" AND Smiling in your FACE! When my youngest girl was about 8 years old and when the phone would ring, she would say "who is That" and we tell her the name! "She would yell, Please don't give them no money" In Tears! Church people would sneak around behind my back getting money or borrowing from my wife. Men and women , Christians! and not paying it back! And she thought she was being a good little christian. ROBBING US BLIND! MINISTERS, DEACONS, members. This is not one church, my wife had patients from a multitude of churches! "Wolves" among the flock! Here is a non "born from above" christian being rob tearing her familiy apart in the name of JESUS!


Going back to The Title Thread:

"Have we been invaded By the Nominals, are they leading and growing strong in Their Proclamation into Their Agenda" [or Are these Real Bona Fide Christians] in THE BUILDINGS OF THIS DAY?

"The Great Falling Away of Christians from THE WORD OF GOD" YOU CANNOT FALL AWAY FROM WHERE YOU NEVER BEEN

I REMEMBER HEARING MY GRANDFATHER SAY: "My word is My BOND" and then I watch Him shake hands! And He had Big HANDS! My Grandfather was A MAN! I remember when they told me that they started a new church that is in existence today, His Gold plague is still on the wall there. He was a head Deacon! They had a meeting and they wanted all the leaders to double their church giving. My GrandFather said: No i am not, I got FAMILY i got to feed and take care and bills to pay, And my Bible says: "Own No Man" "I am a man of my WORD! THEY SAID HE WAS HE WAS GOING TO PAY! HE Got up from the Table and Put on His "STETSON" HAT and walked out and didn't look back And said to his wife: "Mama, we are going to another church, and they both became a member of another church until the day they died! I used to drive my Grandmother to that church just about every SUNDAY The pastor and my GrandMother would be standing at the door until I pull up, and They both would would smile when I drove up! "i know I am a "Child of GOD" i got history!

" And I am A Witness For My LORD" " I never been to Heaven, But I been Told, That The Gates are Pearly and the Streets are GOLD" But there is one thing, that Grieves My mind, "That My Mother is gone and She Have Left me behind" "But I am a Witness for My LORD"

I remember when i was a kid. My Grandmother said: I heard you just step up and song a song you never song.before today in church., and the church was set on Fire! Would you sing it for me! "I am a Witness For MY LORD" and I never been to Heaven But i been TOLD"....etc And i didn't have the "HOLY GHOST" but those preachers and those Old Tobacco chewing Mothers of The Church said 'THAT THE HOLY GHOST was on me! i couldn't stop! How can you sing a song you don't know! AS a kid. They said they just kept a distance watch on me and They knew HE WAS WORKING ON MY MIND.

"THE SAINTS of GOD"
,

 

[Rhema]

So that is your "Justification" in proving me wrong.

PloughBoy, you stepped in it. Own it. (Or do you believe yourself to be unable to make mistakes?)

That GOD or JESUS The Anointed One "The WORD of GOD" never mention or called HIS followers or HIS people "the church" or "christians".

I'm a bit surprised that you would imply that Jesus never said these words: "εαν δε παρακουση αυτων ειπε τη εκκλησια εαν δε και της εκκλησιας παρακουση εστω σοι ωσπερ ο εθνικος και ο τελωνης" (or their Aramaic equivalent).

and one of his greatest weapons, is called "DECEPTION"

I think the following quote here is very deceptive:

Thats is a a added word to a translation!

... because there wasn't a word added to the translation. That's how the word WAS translated: εκκλησια - church.

Another deceptive quote is this:

2. And GOD the Father or His SON or APOSTLE PAUl or the very "WORD of GOD" has never mention the word church or christianity.

... because your assertion is flat out wrong. These words ARE mentioned, even if they are from an English translation. Now if you think it's better to use the word Ekklesia (where the Greek word is left untranslated in an English translation, like the word Christ) then by all means say that. But you didn't. Obviously you have a gripe with what is called the "church" today, and in all honesty, that's your problem. But it's a bit ridiculous to say that these two words are not in the Bible; and this world sure doesn't need more ridiculousness.

And what of the other ONE HUNDRED AND TEN times where the word "church" is found ?? Are all of these "added" too ?? Or is (church) what the Greek word ἐκκλησία actually means? If not, then pray, do tell... what does the word ἐκκλησία actually mean?

As of this point ....
.... still waiting...

PloughBoy, what does the word ἐκκλησία actually mean if not "church" ??

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

so, who's agenda ?

Sorry to "banter" but the possessive of who is whose... so I think you meant to write "Whose agenda?"

You had twice written the contraction "who's" which would mean "who is agenda?".

Perhaps that's the disconnect.

Kindly,
Rhema

(Ain't language amazing.)
.

 

[Rhema]

But that Day When in The Twinkling of the eye "The SPIRIT of THE LIVING GOD" Touch My Soul! Wooooooo!

I see.

That's when you became part of the church, PloughBoy.

Rhema

 

[Br. Bear]

Sorry to "banter" but the possessive of who is whose... so I think you meant to write "Whose agenda?"

You had twice written the contraction "who's" which would mean "who is agenda?".

Perhaps that's the disconnect.

Kindly,
Rhema

(Ain't language amazing.)
.

Thank you.

I was looking at it and drawing blank [what's new?] ... now i know why.
Now you know why i am a little blunt, sometimes. Thanks for the sharpen.

I shall have to think about, " who is agenda?"


Bless you ....><>

 

[PloughBoy]

PloughBoy, you stepped in it. Own it. (Or do you believe yourself to be unable to make mistakes?)


I'm a bit surprised that you would imply that Jesus never said these words: "εαν δε παρακουση αυτων ειπε τη εκκλησια εαν δε και της εκκλησιας παρακουση εστω σοι ωσπερ ο εθνικος και ο τελωνης" (or their Aramaic equivalent).


I think the following quote here is very deceptive:
... because there wasn't a word added to the translation. That's how the word WAS translated: εκκλησια - church.

Another deceptive quote is this:
... because your assertion is flat out wrong. These words ARE mentioned, even if they are from an English translation. Now if you think it's better to use the word Ekklesia (where the Greek word is left untranslated in an English translation, like the word Christ) then by all means say that. But you didn't. Obviously you have a gripe with what is called the "church" today, and in all honesty, that's your problem. But it's a bit ridiculous to say that these two words are not in the Bible; and this world sure doesn't need more ridiculousness.

As of this point ....
.... still waiting...

PloughBoy, what does the word ἐκκλησία actually mean if not "church" ??

Rhema

So you have come to your conclusion of the matter base on a modern day Lexicon pertaining to a "Manuscript" that was written over 1900 plus years ago before "lexicons" or any kind of Dictionary ever existed. And here comes a " Pagan King & A POPE" who rules The WORLD, and at their command, be the powers that be, Will take your "HEAD OFF" be you man, woman, or Child If you do not translate or read the "BOOK" as we say! We determine what is written and added to definitions in "LEXICONS" concerning the "BIBLICAL Text"and words and the New translation in which I have "AUTHORIZE" "KING JAMES' Which is known as "The AUTHORIZE Version" "AV" That many refers to as "THE "KJV". And this power gives me all AUTHORITY over the Church and the people, and gives The Authority of The CHURCH over all People, meaning the people of GOD! and to resist this Power means resisting "The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY" and JESUS Christ HIS SON. Satan is The Perfect ADVERSARY" and We are called to "BE wise as Serpents and Harmless as DOVES"

PS... Please do not mention the Corrupted "Vulgate"

If you cannot understand "The elementary of The Perfect ADVERSARY" and his PURPOSE, for many are still yet "children" and Have not yet, become "Sons".
And this truth does not come by head knowledge, It must be Reveled, Through The SON of The LIVING GOD by The WILL of "The EVERLASTING FATHER"

And This "Manifestation" can not come by the will of A man. Nor can it be Taught by one.

For i am not anyones teacher neither can i be, or teach anyone anything. About GOD or religion, But One thing I can do, I can point "The WAY"! "JESUS CHRIST"! Read the BOOK for yourself!

Hot Diggity DOG!

 

[PloughBoy]

I see.

That's when you became part of the church, PloughBoy.

Rhema

On that day! I became a "CHILD of THE LIVING GOD" "BORN of GOD" "BORN of HEAVEN" "BORN of HIS SPIRIT" "SANCTIFIED" "A JOINT HEIR WITH JESUS , THE ANOINTED ONE of GOD the FATHER" and HE Let ME KNOW it And HE called me By My NAME! And I heard HIM! And saw The BLOOD run DOWN HIS FACE. and the Sadness in HIS EYES! And He set my SOUL on FIRE!,,,,And it does not matter who believes, The Vision I saw! But i am going to Tell it! Where every i go! And many wondered, why I am a FOOL for JESUS! I am a Fool for HIM! and you tell by The "FRIUT I BEAR" and I am "Snapping my fingers"and jumping up and down in My SOUL!........"Hot Diggity DOG"! .........."be ye COLD or HOT" And many can "testify on "TALKJESUS" I can be "COLD" as well as "HOT"! I don't know about you, but like the "OLD SAINTS" used to say; ........ "HE has pick me up, and turn me around and place me on Solid ground and put "Running in My feet"! And after 44 years i am still running and on FULL! Wooooooo, thank you JESUS!
AND

"Through Many dangerous Toils and snares , I have already Come" ....Now that is scary! .....What lies ahead A child of God do not go over or around, they Go through, the valley and through the FIRE. When That Viper Bit Apostle Paul, It did not kill him,,,,, BUT i bet it HURT! ........Have you ever seen the "Fangs of A VIPER"? Not a snake, But A VIPER!

You see, many don't know. I scare my own self! "The WORD oF GOD" cuts like a "DOUBLE EDGE SWORD"

Many of you be mad at me! Fail to realize , I Bleeding too! I get to Slinging that Blade around! "boy put that knife down before you cut yourself" you too excited. LOL

 

[PloughBoy]

PloughBoy, you stepped in it. Own it. (Or do you believe yourself to be unable to make mistakes?)


I'm a bit surprised that you would imply that Jesus never said these words: "εαν δε παρακουση αυτων ειπε τη εκκλησια εαν δε και της εκκλησιας παρακουση εστω σοι ωσπερ ο εθνικος και ο τελωνης" (or their Aramaic equivalent).


I think the following quote here is very deceptive:
... because there wasn't a word added to the translation. That's how the word WAS translated: εκκλησια - church.

Another deceptive quote is this:
... because your assertion is flat out wrong. These words ARE mentioned, even if they are from an English translation. Now if you think it's better to use the word Ekklesia (where the Greek word is left untranslated in an English translation, like the word Christ) then by all means say that. But you didn't. Obviously you have a gripe with what is called the "church" today, and in all honesty, that's your problem. But it's a bit ridiculous to say that these two words are not in the Bible; and this world sure doesn't need more ridiculousness.

As of this point ....
.... still waiting...

PloughBoy, what does the word ἐκκλησία actually mean if not "church" ??

Rhema

The word that is in The Original Copied Manuscript is "The Congregation" of GOD's people or the meaning "The Assembly" of GOD's People.
[ Plainly understood THE DAY IT was spoken and written]
"Jesus said" Upon this"Petra" ROCK I will build MY "Congregation" and The Gates of Hell will not prevail!"

And not 'upon this "Petros" [stone] i will build my "Church" [circe] and the Gates of Hell will not prevail"

Jesus is [The STONE], [The CORNERSTONE] [The SOLID ROCK], the builders have rejected.

Word meanings for words in dictionaries and Lexicons can have added meanings: "Etymology" as time goes by. definitions are determine by the authors or the Chief Publishers of dictionaries and Lexicons, even in collective forms of agreement's......

"For God would not have us ignorant".

English Standard Version
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places."

New International Version
in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes.
New Living Translation
so that Satan will not outsmart us. For we are familiar with his evil schemes.

God is Faithful, He is Training us, for what is to be. beyond this world. Something that will be "Brand NEW" and we will "Reign with HIM, FOREVER and EVER, Thoughout "ETERNITY". "A Joint Reign, a "Inherit" position with "THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD" Forever and Ever, WE will be The MANIFESTATION of THE GLORY of GOD throughout "ETERNITY" and we Will never DIE For This IS "The INHERITANCE of THE SAINTS of GOD" We are being shape and Form into HIS IVERY MAGE!

English Standard Version
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.[sons]

1 Corinthians 15:49
And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so also shall we bear the likeness of the heavenly man.

What ever GOD the FATHER is going to Give HIS SON on That day, we will share That GIFT! And share That RULE, for ever and ever for their will be NO End to THAT RULE, The OLD UNIVERSE with it VASTNESS WILL PASS AWAY. AND GOD will CREATE, Something, BRAND NEW!

Ask me what it will be, i don't know! "But eyes have not seen"

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God."

 

[Rhema]

So you have come to your conclusion of the matter base on a modern day Lexicon pertaining to a "Manuscript" that was written over 1900 plus years ago before "lexicons" or any kind of Dictionary ever existed.

Sorry PloughBoy.

You are wayyy in over your head here. (Admit it and Own it.) We HAVE both Lexicons (dictionaries) AND books on Greek grammar written in Greek from 1900 years ago. The Greek's were pretty smart back then, and a wealthy Roman would hire a Greek tutor to teach their children how to read and write. Just like today where we have English dictionaries and English books on English grammar written in English so that one can learn English, so it was 2,000 years ago ... in Greek. Haven't you even heard of the library in Alexandria Egypt? (Yes, they even had libraries 2,000 years ago.)

Do you really think all translators just make stuff up ??

Even you quote Bible verses, and so RELY upon translators and translations. Sometimes they get it wrong. That's why I decided to learn Greek 45 years ago. What are you doing? (Besides running around and falsely claiming that the word "church" was added to translations.) It wasn't. You made a mistake. Own it.

... We determine what is written and added to definitions in "LEXICONS" concerning the "BIBLICAL Text"

Like you are the person who's supposed to determine what the words in the Bible mean and which English words should be used? I even asked, and you can't tell me what εκκλησια means. (Still waiting.)

It must be Reveled, Through The SON of The LIVING GOD by The WILL of "The EVERLASTING FATHER"

IT... what? You wrote IT must be revealed. WHAT ?? What is the "it" ??

Are you truly going to boast here that you are that only person to whom things have been revealed ??

And how ?? How is "it" revealed ?? Do you rely on the Bible at all ??

(So now I'm presented with posts from you that have both deception and pride. What should people do about that? What should YOU do about that?)

For i am not anyones teacher neither can i be, or teach anyone anything.

If you TRULY believed that you would shut up and stop posting. But you DON'T believe that. That's why you post.

Again, you stepped in it, twice now, so man up and own it. Your posts have shown that you don't have a clue about the history of language and translation, so Just be honest and post that you don't know how to read Greek, and that you yourself rely upon a translated Bible AND the definition of English words that you read in English translations. Can you be honest and do that? I hope you can.

Thanks,
Rhema

PS... Please do not mention the Corrupted "Vulgate"

And who told you the nonsense that the Vulgate is "Corrupted" ?? More direct revelation from Jesus ?? (Hardly. And I don't think you l can read Latin either.)

Read the BOOK for yourself!

At least I can read the Book for myself. YOU CAN'T. (You need translations. The translations that you've wrongly criticized and the translators you have dissed.)

 

[Gregoryp]

These are the invaders, total apostasy, and yet people believe there lies and follow them like goats to the slaughter. They proclaim to be innocent but will have the blood of man upon them. Take note of the reaction of the audience, they are lapping it up like a dog returning to his vomit. And yet when the truth calls them out, they yell and scream in indignation. Satan is also subtle, one piece of inaccurate or taken out of context scripture is enough to decieve people. These people detest the truth. So yes, the "church" has been invaded and is no longer relevant.

 

[Rhema]

On that day! I became a "CHILD of THE LIVING GOD" "BORN of GOD" "BORN of HEAVEN" "BORN of HIS SPIRIT" "SANCTIFIED" "A JOINT HEIR WITH JESUS , THE ANOINTED ONE of GOD the FATHER" and HE Let ME KNOW it And HE called me By My NAME! And I heard HIM!

PloughBoy,

You're not the only one.

And the word "church" means the collected body of people who have been called.

Rhema

And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.​

(Matthew 18:17 KJV)​

The real question here is are you going to believe and obey the very words of Jesus ??

 

[Rhema]

The word that is in The Original Copied Manuscript is "The Congregation" of GOD's people or the meaning "The Assembly" of GOD's People.

First, who told you that ??

Second, that's what the word "church" means.

Third. Which church do you attend ?? Do you even congregate with God's people? (It's a serious question.)

Rhema

 

[Gregoryp]

The word church means the followers of christ, not a building or mandmade organised religion. https://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-the-church.html I myself have avoided organised religion since I started this journey in childhood. Something was wrong with them even back then.