How is “The Wrath of GOD” a manifestation of The LOVE of GOD?

[PloughBoy]

Ivan, I did post a new post.
“Judgment” will begin at the House of God, who’s house are you?

 

[PloughBoy]

Oh, that is the name of the post. “Judgment” will begin at the House of God, who’s house are you?“

 

[KingJ]

How is “The Wrath of GOD” a manifestation of The LOVE of GOD?

We need to examine each instance of God's wrath properly. There are many and they all have different factors to consider.

God is love 1 John 4:8 and one who is righteous in ALL His ways Psalm 145:17. A God that is light with NO darkness in Him at all 1 John 1:5.

So, what instance of God's wrath does anyone here believe taints Him? Nothing God does to anyone taints Him as wicked.

God is righteous in ALL His ways, not because ''He is God; and there is nothing we can do about it if He is wicked. No, it is because He is righteous in ALL His ways.

So, the ultimate question. How is God's love shown to those that are destined for an eternity in hell? Well, hell is their choice. God loves the wicked in that He honors their decision to not be with Him. He makes an eternal home for them. He doesn't have to. He could torture and annihilate them. He doesn't do either.

Christians who have never met God just espouse He does. There is absolutely no scripture that suggests God tortures His enemy. If God tortured His enemy, He is wicked. So lets be very careful as to what we say about God. If anyone DARE insinuate He tortures, you better come with more then a few cherry picked verses and a book someone who had a bad dream wrote.

It is a Christians ONE job to properly represent God to the unsaved. If anyone suggests He has a dark side, when there is so much scripture that defines Him as not having one, they fail terribly at it. God just face-palms Himself and I am sure has thoughts of removing said person from service. The devil seeks to taint God all day, dare we follow in his footsteps, just because we are too lazy to properly read scripture.

 

[KingJ]

@PloughBoy where in the Bible does it say that God's wrath is a manifestation of his love? Or is this an assumption or inference on your part?

God is love. All God does is a manifestation of His love.

Plagues are tough love. Destruction as with the flood and Sodom, came only upon those sold out to wickedness as is said of Sodom ''their sin was great''.....and we see God's love in that it is done swiftly. Fires of Sodom were high, they had quick deaths as is drowning a quick death. So, in essence it is merely a relocation from earth to Hades.

Can you think of an instance of God's wrath that shows hatred from Him to the wicked?

 

[KingJ]

It's not. The wrath of God is for the sinners and unbelievers that remain on Earth after God has come taken us Christians home to Heaven.

This is just not true.

If you read revelations, you will see most verses on the plagues end with ''they repented not''. Meaning, plagues are a type of tough love. A last ditch attempt by God to save hard-hearted sinners from an eternal separation.

 

[PloughBoy]

The original post is asking a question. If possible make you answers clear enough that a child could understand you answers.
How is “The Wrath of GOD” a manifestation of The LOVE of GOD?

 

[KingJ]

The original post is asking a question. If possible make you answers clear enough that a child could understand you answers.❤
How is “The Wrath of GOD” a manifestation of The LOVE of GOD?

What wrath specifically?

Every instance needs to be looked at separately.

 

[PloughBoy]

Sorry, you don’t get off that easy, This is not , Sunday School, or your everyday, weekday bible class or ask your pastor hour. You have been saved to know your Father which art in Heaven, Right? I say, come, know your Father.
18You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; 19to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, 20because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.” c 21The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.” d

22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

25See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven? 26At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.” e 27The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain.

28Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, 29for our “God is a consuming fire.” f. (Hebrews 12).

He comes in “The Volume of The Book”
PS. I didn’t answer the question. I just said in short, know who your Father that is in Heaven.

 

[KingJ]

Sorry, you don’t get off that easy, This is not , Sunday School, or your everyday, weekday bible class or ask your pastor hour.

Its your thread. You asked the question. There are a thousand instances of God's wrath in scripture. WHICH ONE are you referring to?

They are all manifestations of His love. But you / we need specific case studies to prove this. If you want a ''general'' chat to blur the truth, I am out. That chat is more a Sunday school lesson. I want facts and specifics.

''How is “The Wrath of GOD” a manifestation of The LOVE of GOD?''

 

[PloughBoy]

If you cannot answer, just humbly say, I don’t know.❤ I am quite sure many out there can answer it, with ease. And they said that that’s easy! But they are kinda afraid to address it, why because they have been shot down all their life by others who have had somewhat authority over them and no matter what they had to say about the matter, they were not address about the matter but shot down. That is why, the Word of God says this and it is a true meaning:

26Brothers and sisters, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, 29so that no one may boast before him. (1 Co. 26-29).

 

[PloughBoy]

And you thought this post was about you. It was to give courage to the weakAnd edification to the body of Christ. Now out of love let us not let this blow over our heads. As well Shalom!

 

[KingJ]

If you cannot answer, just humbly say, I don’t know.❤ I am quite sure many out there can answer it, with ease. And they said that that’s easy! But they are kinda afraid to address it, why because they have been shot down all their life by others who have had somewhat authority over them and no matter what they had to say about the matter, they were not address about the matter but shot down. That is why, the Word of God says this and it is a true meaning:

You are just not discerning the topic brother. In every instance of His wrath one needs to consider all the facts pertaining to that instance to prove it is the work of a good God who loves His enemy.

This topic divides Christians because many believe God hates the wicked. Many believe God has a dark side to Him.

That is why we cannot blur this topic. Name the instance of His wrath that causes you or someone you know to question God and let's discuss that.

 

[PloughBoy]

we must also understand many Christians believes in false teaching and false teachers. Why, because they have not their whole bibles neither have they studied it like they should. Then they fake it like they spend more time in their bibles than they do anything else. You are supposed study to show yourself approval unto God a person who rightly divide the word truth and not unto a man. Then God opens and reward you not with things that perish but Himself. Spend more time in the volume of the Book then you will understand what I am saying.

Matthew 10 chapter

34“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn

“ ‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’...ff.

 

[PloughBoy]

we must also understand many Christians believes in false teaching and false teachers. Why, because they have not read their whole bibles neither have they studied it like they should. Then they fake it like they spend more time in their bibles than they do anything else. You are supposed study to show yourself approval unto God a person who rightly divide the word truth and not unto a man. Then God opens and reward you not with things that perish but Himself. Spend more time in the volume of the Book then you will understand what I am saying.

Matthew 10 chapter

34“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn

“ ‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’...ff.

and we must also remember Jesus came to save us from “The Wrath of God” Jesus is sitting on the right hand of the Father making “Intercession “ for us to the Father and not the world. Shalom! If you are not cover by the blood of Jesus,, you will feel the wrath of Almighty God! I hope you are telling people that! Now that is what you call the love of God! Tell them the truth! REPENT for the Kingdom of GOD is At hand. John the Baptist said: oh you generations of vipers who have warn you to escape from the Wrath to come! You better warn them! When he comes back,?eyes like balls of fire! And He will not be coming back as a Savior but a Judge! Obeying His Father!

 

[LordKnows]

Why does this thread give vibes of a 3rd round boxing match?

 

[PloughBoy]

To him that understands, this is why:
3Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. 4For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

5Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who savedc a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
(Jude 1). Warn them, Then I say, from “WHO”! Asking you.

 

[David1954]

To him that understands, this is why:
3Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. 4For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

5Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who savedc a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
(Jude 1). ❤ Warn them, Then I say, from “WHO”! Asking you.

I understand, my Beloved Brother.

 

[Samson2020]

"He that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." The wrath of God abides on one so the one may learn from their own error. Eventually
coming into an understanding of good and evil and that evil is unfruitful to the doer. Eventually as the wrath continues one is drawn into seeking the source of their misfortune. In doing so they find God their creator who then shows them what it is that he has for them through his SON JESUS CHRIST. Eventually they will see life as they have been given faith to believe. "Every man in his own order"
So IMO the Wrath of God will lead one to LIFE through JESUS Christ whom is the LOVE of GOD to and for us ALL.

 

[PloughBoy]

Many Christians believes that the Christian Faith is a faith of “Happiness” but I say of sorrow, pain, tribulations, despair, mis-understandings, puzzle, and ponders, and do not forget “Faith”. Faith is the Substance that things are HOPE for and the evidence of things “Not Seen”. Do you understand the word “HOPE”. We have all of that and some have much more. But the most wonderful thing about it , sometimes we have full joy in the mist of it all! But far greater of the joy we have is The LOVE of GOD running through our veins! It is the blood of Jesus“ Believeth thou this”! For ever more!

 

[David1954]

"He that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." The wrath of God abides on one so the one may learn from their own error. Eventually
coming into an understanding of good and evil and that evil is unfruitful to the doer. Eventually as the wrath continues one is drawn into seeking the source of their misfortune. In doing so they find God their creator who then shows them what it is that he has for them through his SON JESUS CHRIST. Eventually they will see life as they have been given faith to believe. "Every man in his own order"
So IMO the Wrath of God will lead one to LIFE through JESUS Christ whom is the LOVE of GOD to and for us ALL.

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,