Lost faith in the people who claim they r Christian

[rstrats]

"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." - John 17:17

But one would first have to know what "thy word" is.

 

[PloughBoy]

You will stumble every time you focus on people and institutions, By focusing on them and all of their solutions and ways both religiously and worldly you have taken your eyes and mind off of The Simplicity in Christ.

The Bible states clearly “ trust no man”! And that statement is not complicated.

NASB 1977
It is better to take refuge in the LORD Than to trust in man.

NASB 1977
Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But Jesus did not trust himself unto them, for that he knew all men,

It seems you might have to learn the hard way

After you have been torn apart mentally and broken, and you have not the strength to move, for the only way some of us to surrender all, all have to be taken away even the mentality of our mind. And only by this Blessing HE becomes our “LORD & MASTER”

So HE has to Discipline us very hard. And we will take our eyes off of man. And place them on Him and we will never follow or be guided by another. Be it Prophet, Priest or another believer let alone another man or women.
We become Solid on THE ROCK and cannot be move by every wind or doctrine.

 

[PloughBoy]

But one would first have to know what "thy word" is.

A “Born from Above” Child of The Living GOD knows What the “Word of GOD” is, his FATHER does not cast him into field or alley once he is born! What kind of FATHER do you Think GOD is once HE Births HIS own child? You think He leaves that child of HIS helpless like a dog in the streets.
And why do you think “The SON of GOD” created The Angels?

Berean Study Bible
Are not the angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?

Douay-Rheims Bible
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent to minister for them, who shall receive the inheritance of salvation?

 

[Christ4Ever]

Actually I'm serious. Had once attended Newark Christian Fellowship, but decades ago.

Fingers crossed,
Rhema

Dear Rhema,
I'm sure you are. But for me a "field trip" speaks to my school days of yesteryear and was seen with great joy tossed with some trepidation!
I don't know how old you are, but I'm sure those school days of being chaperoned are a bit behind you!
I hope you enjoy it!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[Garee]

In regard to when Christ comes on the last day. Will he find His faith as a labor of love working in them or will personal experience be the source of faith like what some call out of the body, or I had dream, or lo is Christ he is here or there?

 

[Rhema]

I don't know how old you are,

I'll never be too old to learn.

 

[Rhema]

But one would first have to know what "thy word" is.

And many who profess to know, truly don't.

Rhema

 

[Twistie]

The trick of course is in trying to determine exactly what the truth is.

The Truth will always remain the same the trick is knowing who is purposely deceiving and who is just deceived I think

 

[Jesus_is_LORD]

But one would first have to know what "thy word" is.

Yes, Amen.

 

[Curtis]

The Lord never lights a candle and puts it under a bead, he put it on a candlestick holder for all of the world to see.
The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord.....(Prov 20:27) The Lord lights our candle....(Psalms 18:28)

2Co 3:2 For your very lives are our “letters of recommendation,” permanently engraved on our hearts, recognized and read by everybody.
2Co 3:3 As a result of our ministry, you are living letters written by Christ, not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God—not carved onto stone tablets but on the tablets of tender hearts. (TPT)

2Co 4:10 always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our bodies.
2Co 4:11 For we who live are always being given over to death for Jesus' sake, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh.

We should never have to tell anyone we are a believer as the life of Jesus should always be "manifested" in our mortal flesh for all too see, and read as a living epistle.

 

[MedicBravo]

There is the Truth and then they have "their truth"; little t.
I'm watching a video by Justin Peters on Todd White and he is pointing out many things White does and says that are wrong.
Truth is, too many have made their own "hippie Jesus and hippie Bible" where they've chosen the parts they like and are "nice" and rejected all the mean things. False Converts will be punished like the non-Christians and any who twist Him and His word.

 

[Twistie]

There is the Truth and then they have "their truth"; little t.
I'm watching a video by Justin Peters on Todd White and he is pointing out many things White does and says that are wrong.
Truth is, too many have made their own "hippie Jesus and hippie Bible" where they've chosen the parts they like and are "nice" and rejected all the mean things. False Converts will be punished like the non-Christians and any who twist Him and His word.

Ya I tried to explain to one He desires knowledge of Him meaning YH(God) and Mercy
She kept saying no no no so I left it as no for her

Always got that question YH asked me in the back of my Head If they don't Hear Me(God) then what makes ya think they will Hear you

And at that I bow out

 

[rstrats]

False Converts will be punished like the non-Christians and any who twist Him and His word.

Any idea what the punishment might be?

 

[Twistie]

Any idea what the punishment might be?

That's between them n YH I wouldn't even tread on that for many will turn on the last day
Remember the farmer n his hired hands

 

[rstrats]

That's between them n YH I wouldn't even tread on that for many will turn on the last day
Remember the farmer n his hired hands

I'm missing your point. Could you elaborate?

 

[Twistie]

I'm missing your point. Could you elaborate?

My point YH is perfect I am not what He decides to do with His creation is none of my business lol I know I can't think like Him

 

[Twistie]

My point YH is perfect I am not what He decides to do with His creation is none of my business lol I know I can't think like Him

Or are you talking about the farmer?? It's a parable in the Word

 

[rstrats]

My point YH is perfect I am not what He decides to do with His creation is none of my business lol I know I can't think like Him

OK, so you say that the unbeliever will be punished, but you have no idea what the punishment will be. Fair enough.

 

[complete]

I've have learned that most Christians are not what they are claiming. To b they only wanna speak to you if you agree with their views of their pastors and preachers
I've learned they are great at trying to hide the truth
They will call you names when you speak the Truth of the Word that they themselves are claiming. To follow
I am becoming sadder n sadder

Hello @Twistie,

Looking inward at ourselves, or outward at others is not wise, for all we are likely to see within ourselves are our own failures, and similarly when we look at others around us who profess to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ but are not living in a manner that reflects that, then we become discouraged.

It is only by keeping our eyes stayed upon Christ Jesus our risen Lord, and what He has achieved and will achieve both 'for' and 'in' us, that we are encouraged in heart and strengthened in faith. (see Psalms 73 & 77). For God is working in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure.(Philippians 2:13).

' Trust in the LORD with all thine heart;
and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge Him,
and He shall direct thy paths.'
(Prov. 3:5-6)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Twistie]

Hello @Twistie,

Looking inward at ourselves, or outward at others is not wise, for all we are likely to see within ourselves are our own failures, and similarly when we look at others around us who profess to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ but are not living in a manner that reflects that, then we become discouraged.

It is only by keeping our eyes stayed upon Christ Jesus our risen Lord, and what He has achieved and will achieve both 'for' and 'in' us, that we are encouraged in heart and strengthened in faith. (see Psalms 73 & 77). For God is working in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure.(Philippians 2:13).

' Trust in the LORD with all thine heart;
and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge Him,
and He shall direct thy paths.'
(Prov. 3:5-6)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

O acknowledged Him for everything I haven't worked in over 12 yrs yet He always supplies what is necessary to survive was it you who said I said unbelievers willb punished cause I neva said that that's also between them n YH for you have gentiles (unbelievers) that do the will of YH n this is the proof that His Word is written on the hearts of His r that's a Christian thing those who believe n say they know Him yet deny Him by their way of living will probably b worse of then he who don't believe don't u think so?
For itbis written I am coming for two sheepfold n He will make them one