Lost faith in the people who claim they r Christian

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Exactly, how could one suffer without the spirit essence . . breath of life?

One death, the death we are working out. The penalty for sin dying. No miss trial or double jeapordy .

That's a Catholic fathers innovation or oral traditon pased on from the faithless Jewish fathers called a law of the fathers doctrine of men .

In the past they have dug up the bones of past popes (Pope Formoso) and pronounced judgment making a way passing the bones around to be venerated as idol images

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it

The false doctrine of after life called Limbo the beginning of wondering sufferings, wondering suffering with no end of faith the salvation of ones soul . . after one takes the last breath .Again Purgatory or Limbo only shows that some do despite to the fullness of grace the one price of salvation.

.Born again believers receive the end (salvation) from the beginning

Hell is the living sufferings we experience in these aging, dying , earthen bodies of death , Cant' suffer if one cannot breath .

1 Peter 1:8-11 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
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Hello @Garee,

I am having trouble understanding people today, it seems. Forgive me, but I will keep this short.

Thank you for responding with 1 Peter 1:8-11, the whole chapter is a blessing to read.

I won't say more, Garee, for I don't want to derail @Twistie's thread.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Twistie]

Hello @Twistie,

I hope I did not misunderstand your earlier entry that I responded to, and that I will not be found to be doing so with this one either, for I do not find it easy to follow your manner of speech. If I have, forgive me, please. We may both speak the same language, but we come from such different walks of life, yes?

Will you please rephrase this for me, so that I will be able to understand.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

YH is Life to be separated from Him is being separated from Life
YH is Everything living
No YH No Life idk how else to put it ‍

 

[rstrats]

YH is Life to be separated from Him is being separated from Life
YH is Everything living
No YH No Life idk how else to put it ‍

So you're saying that no one living today is separated from YH.

 

[Twistie]

So you're saying that no one living today is separated from YH.

Nope the ones who r r what I call the walking dead discernment is a must have in these days

 

[rstrats]

Nope the ones who r r what I call the walking dead discernment is a must have in these days

I have no idea what that means.

 

[Twistie]

I have no idea what that means.

Spend time with YH He will show you

 

[Christ4Ever]

Nope the ones who r r what I call the walking dead discernment is a must have in these days

I have no idea what that means.

Spend time with YH He will show you

Dear @Twistie
You, made a statement in which you said "what I call the walking dead...", then are asked for clarity, you then, tell them to ask God?
Take care of what you share, if you either don't know, or don't want to expand upon what you have said so that another may be granted understanding.
Especially since it's not Scripture that you are quoting.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[Twistie]

Dear @Twistie
You, made a statement in which you said "what I call the walking dead...", then are asked for clarity, you then, tell them to ask God?
Take care of what you share, if you either don't know, or don't want to expand upon what you have said so that another may be granted understanding.
Especially since it's not Scripture that you are quoting.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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Idk what u don't understand but it saddens me that you dont

 

[Garee]

Hello @Garee,

I am having trouble understanding people today, it seems. Forgive me, but I will keep this short.

Thank you for responding with 1 Peter 1:8-11, the whole chapter is a blessing to read.

I won't say more, Garee, for I don't want to derail @Twistie's thread.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Thanks for that reply.

I would offer. Understanding people when it comes to spiritual unseen things of God in one way is a design of God it can cause confusion. and perhaps in the confusion move a person to search out the others understanding .like; Where did they come up with that understanding?

In that way without parables Christ spoke not .To what end is a mystery made known through the parables .also called hidden manna

Parables in that way are designed to teach us how to walk by the living faith (Christ) as it is written . 66 chapters that some call books

In one way we all speak in parables a signified or poetic understanding. Even my wife and I have to search our each others understanding once in a while, every other minute (LOL )

The tower of babble God taking away the understanding of each other .

For some time now I would think Jesus the Son of man was the most understood, misperceived person on the planet . The reason for the shortest verse .Jesus wept

That does not mean people who seem confused are not. ?

A testimony to a law of parables or workings of parables is found in Luke 9 . Jesus giving a parable hiding the spiritual gospel understanding one after another again hiding the understanding over and over.

.At one point the apostles by their action (will) thought Jesus went off the deep end and began the who is the Alfa Dog (greatest amongst them) Then again teaching then how to walk by faith gave another parable .In the end of the matter he rebuked them given words from the father and reveled to them they knew not what manner of spirit they were of understanding by the things seen the temporal

Again revealing the greatest Christ the Holy Spirt working in them


Note. . (purple ) my added comment as a offering.

Luke 9:43-45 And they were all amazed (not coming to the end of faith salvation of ones soul 1 Peter 1) at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered (not coming to the end of faith salvation of ones soul 1 Peter 1)every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his disciples, Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men. But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.

Luke 9:46-48 Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest. (again they must of thought Jesus went of the deep end. ) And Jesus, perceiving the thought of their heart, took a child, and set him by him, And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

Hiding the understanding from the apostles John like john never heard John attempted to establish the us from those who went out from us . Then Jesus defined the us Christ not what the eyes see the temporal apostles

Luke 9:49-50 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

Then another parable needed to teach us how to walk by faith .

Luke 9:51-54 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, (not Jerusalem) to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw (walking by sight) his, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

Luke 9: 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

No faith that alone comes from hearing God unseen rather putting there hope in the things seen the temporal

Parables the tongue of Christ performing the work of revealing the unseen things of faith .The power of God

 

[Garee]

YH is Life to be separated from Him is being separated from Life
YH is Everything living
No YH No Life idk how else to put it ‍

Yes, we have been given the power of faith ..Christ in us. working to both reveal or hear his good will and empower us to perform it to His good pleasure . God who is of one mind and always does whatsoever his soul desires. No man can move him . Yoked with Christ our burden is lighter and having a continues living hope a anchor to our soul our confidence in Him

Philipians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

In that way we are like Zombie's walking by faith not of our selves.

.Not by our dead will but your power will Father( not seen the will of faith )

Where are hope is there we will find the hidden treasure

Note. . .(purple) my added comment as a offering.

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, (bodies of death) that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Note. . Brown dead no power

Note. . .Red power of God not seen

Note. . .Green Life from the power

 

[rstrats]

The reason for the shortest verse .Jesus wept

Not that it matters a fig to the intent of this topic, but it actually depends on the translation/verson being used.

The New International Version, New Living Translation, Christian Standard Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, New Revised Standard Version, and Brenton Septuagint Translation have a shorter verse, i.e., Job3:2.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Idk what u don't understand but it saddens me that you dont

Dear Twistie,
It saddens me that you didn't understand what I posted to you!
Let's try this again.
If you post something that someone doesn't understand, and they ask you to explain it, or show a lack of understanding of what you have said.
Then it is only curtesy to explain it to them.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[Twistie]

Not that it matters a fig to the intent of this topic, but it actually depends on the translation/verson being used.

The New International Version, New Living Translation, Christian Standard Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, New Revised Standard Version, and Brenton Septuagint Translation have a shorter verse, i.e., Job3:2.

Dear Twistie,
It saddens me that you didn't understand what I posted to you!
Let's try this again.
If you post something that someone doesn't understand, and they ask you to explain it, or show a lack of understanding of what you have said.
Then it is only curtesy to explain it to them.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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Why don't people point to YH ask YH is what I say I think people don't believe YH talks to His children

 

[rstrats]

Twistie,
re: "Why don't people point to YH ask YH is what I say I think people don't believe YH talks to His children"

What does that have to do with the shortest verse?

 

[Christ4Ever]

Why don't people point to YH ask YH is what I say I think people don't believe YH talks to His children

Dear Twistie,
Because in this instance, it is you who have presented what God has laid upon your spirit to communicate, and it's your responsibility to explain it, if you understand it yourself.
If you don't understand what you are communicating, then that is fine, if you just state so. End of discussion, at least on what you are communicating. Though one might ask why you didn't ask YH to explain it to you so you could do so to others when they ask for lack of understanding. Unless you are telling me that YH told you it's none of your business to know, or not to explain it to them. If so, then state that as well.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[Twistie]

Dear Twistie,
Because in this instance, it is you who have presented what God has laid upon your spirit to communicate, and it's your responsibility to explain it, if you understand it yourself.
If you don't understand what you are communicating, then that is fine, if you just state so. End of discussion, at least on what you are communicating. Though one might ask why you didn't ask YH to explain it to you so you could do so to others when they ask for lack of understanding. Unless you are telling me that YH told you it's none of your business to know, or not to explain it to them. If so, then state that as well.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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He don't lay it on me to explain at this point those who r is should Know the Lord
I don't see why one can not understand walking dead in another sense they have no Light in them its all written
Many love the spoon feeding they no longer seek YH for answers they seek man when it's clearly written if you Lack Ask YH
One can't get to know Him by climbing in a window the must go to the Door
This whole situation is just sad

 

[Christ4Ever]

He don't lay it on me to explain at this point those who r is should Know the Lord
I don't see why one can not understand walking dead in another sense they have no Light in them its all written
Many love the spoon feeding they no longer seek YH for answers they seek man when it's clearly written if you Lack Ask YH
One can't get to know Him by climbing in a window the must go to the Door
This whole situation is just sad

Dear Twistie,
You are correct. This whole situation is just sad.
If you had only provided this one part that I bolded above, when you were initially asked to explain your comment.
There probably would have been very little misunderstanding.

No need to reply further.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[Curtis]

Jer 17:5 Thus says the LORD: “Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength, whose heart turns away from the LORD.
Jer 17:6 He is like a shrub in the desert, and shall not see any good come. He shall dwell in the parched places of the wilderness, in an uninhabited salt land.
Jer 17:7 “Blessed is the man who trusts in the LORD, whose trust is the LORD.
Jer 17:8 He is like a tree planted by water, that sends out its roots by the stream, and does not fear when heat comes, for its leaves remain green, and is not anxious in the year of drought, for it does not cease to bear fruit.” (ESV)

 

[rstrats]

Twistie needs to explain his explanation for not explaining his previous comment. Or am I the only one having difficulty deciphering his cryptic writing?

 

[Curtis]

YH is Life to be separated from Him is being separated from Life
YH is Everything living
No YH No Life idk how else to put it ‍

1Jn 5:12 Those who belong to the Son have life. Those who do not belong to the Son of God do not have life.

This is a way better way to say it.