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Proverbs 26
As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honour is not seemly for a fool.

2 As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come.

3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

6 He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off the feet, and drinketh damage.

7 The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools.

8 As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth honour to a fool.

9 As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools.

10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.

11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

13 The slothful man saith, There is a lion in the way; a lion is in the streets.

14 As the door turneth upon his hinges, so doth the slothful upon his bed.

15 The slothful hideth his hand in his bosom; it grieveth him to bring it again to his mouth.

16 The sluggard is wiser in his own conceit than seven men that can render a reason.

17 He that passeth by, and meddleth with strife belonging not to him, is like one that taketh a dog by the ears.

18 As a mad man who casteth firebrands, arrows, and death,

19 So is the man that deceiveth his neighbour, and saith, Am not I in sport?

20 Where no wood is, there the fire goeth out: so where there is no talebearer, the strife ceaseth.

21 As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife.

22 The words of a talebearer are as wounds, and they go down into the innermost parts of the belly.

23 Burning lips and a wicked heart are like a potsherd covered with silver dross.

24 He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and layeth up deceit within him;

25 When he speaketh fair, believe him not: for there are seven abominations in his heart.

26 Whose hatred is covered by deceit, his wickedness shall be shewed before the whole congregation.

27 Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.

28 A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin.

'For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight:
but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.'
(Heb 4:12-13)

Hello @God's Truth,

I heard someone testify that he had come to know the Lord Jesus Christ through reading the book of proverbs!! There is so much wisdom expressed in that book isn't there, and we are the poorer if we neglect it.

Thank you for quoting it.
Your sister in Christ
Chris

 

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The Bible is always right and will come to be in everyone’s life whether we believe it what it says or not. What it says has been done in everyone’s life. All and everyone’s life is a “Divine Decree” and “has” been done before creation ever existed. Humanity is nothing but a part of a “Creation” [oven] for only one purpose.
Yet to be fully revealed. On That “Coronation Day”.

Hello @PloughBoy,

Would you please enlarge on what you have said here a little please.

 

[PloughBoy]

Hello @PloughBoy,

Would you please enlarge on what you have said here a little please.

American Standard Version
But now hath God set the members each one of them in the body, even as it pleased him.

And
Acts 17
“The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25neither is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all life and breath and all things;

26and He made from one, every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined theirappointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation,

The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25neither is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all life and breath and all things; 26and He made from one, every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined theirappointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation,

All determine and settle before All Creation.

American Standard Version
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, For this very purpose did I raise thee up, that I might show in thee my power, and that my name might be published abroad in all the earth.

Most people view creation as the final destination and purpose of GOD for heaven is only a creation too! That will past away just like earth will.

This thing is so far above Adam and Eve! Adam and Eve is just A part of the Mold. And Heaven is A temporal place.

People think we just die and go to heaven, you can tell people have not read the book! Pastors teachers, and ministers.

And they think you are just like the host, because just about everyone they meet is the same. Can you find “10” in the city? Ok, if I find 10, I will save The City.

 

[*Lavender]

I heard someone testify that he had come to know the Lord Jesus Christ through reading the book of proverbs!! There is so much wisdom expressed in that book isn't there, and we are the poorer if we neglect it.

Thank you for quoting it.
Your sister in Christ
Chris


Hi Chris,

I can well believe this and there is so much wisdom in Proverbs.
Such a shame though that Solomon didn't follow his own wisdom.
He probably did but then went off the rails.

 

[God's Truth]

I can well believe this and there is so much wisdom in Proverbs.
Such a shame though that Solomon didn't follow his own wisdom.
He probably did but then went off the rails.

It amazes me that Solomon was led astray after everything he had from God and having David as his father, a man after God's own heart.

 

[God's Truth]

'For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight:
but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.'
(Heb 4:12-13)

When a believer in the Lord teaches false doctrines they are not using the two edged sword.

Hello @God's Truth,

I heard someone testify that he had come to know the Lord Jesus Christ through reading the book of proverbs!! There is so much wisdom expressed in that book isn't there, and we are the poorer if we neglect it.

Thank you for quoting it.
Your sister in Christ
Chris

Thank you for the thanks! The Proverbs are great to read and I know that people searching for God are led to Him by the Psalms, too, because they see how much suffering a person can go through, even a person of God and the hope in being heard and helped.

 

[*Lavender]

It amazes me that Solomon was led astray after everything he had from God and having David as his father, a man after God's own heart.

Yes it does. The bible shows a lot of different situations and outcomes. At least David learned from his treacherous mistakes and others did as well.

 

[God's Truth]

Yes it does. The bible shows a lot of different situations and outcomes. At least David learned from his treacherous mistakes and others did as well.

It is noteworthy to show that there aren't mistakes beyond the adultery and murder.

1 Kings 15:5 Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

 

[*Lavender]

It is noteworthy to show that there aren't mistakes beyond the adultery and murder.

1 Kings 15:5 Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.

The characters in the bible are very interesting and they tell us a lot about God. That is a very good subject.

Regarding children honouring their parents.
Small children wouldn't know right from wrong if their parents didn't know God.
That is of course very reflective of the world.
God can reach out to a small child. These children who were not properly parented by their biological parents are very special when then are parented by God.
They can honour their parents by following God by showing a better way.
I recently saw this testimony of a child. Not a young child but a young man who was previously a Mormon and came to know Jesus.
This tells about honouring your parents when your parents don't follow the Word of God, because he put God first and that honoured his parents who later came to know God.
Sorry this sounds a bit complicated but a powerful testimony.

 

[God's Truth]

The characters in the bible are very interesting and they tell us a lot about God. That is a very good subject.

Regarding children honouring their parents.
Small children wouldn't know right from wrong if their parents didn't know God.
That is of course very reflective of the world.
God can reach out to a small child. These children who were not properly parented by their biological parents are very special when then are parented by God.
They can honour their parents by following God by showing a better way.
I recently saw this testimony of a child. Not a young child but a young man who was previously a Mormon and came to know Jesus.
This tells about honouring your parents when your parents don't follow the Word of God, because he put God first and that honoured his parents who later came to know God.
Sorry this sounds a bit complicated but a powerful testimony.

This is so sad.
He went from one false denomination to another.

He went from the false Mormon denomination to the false Baptist denomination.

Just listen to him.

He speaks of our obedience as filthy rags.

The filthy rags scripture is explained falsely by many denominations.


The man in the video went from the false teachings of Joseph Smith, the Mormons/Latter Day Saints, to the false teachings of the Baptists.

This is what I am and have been preaching against.

Jesus from the New Testament scriptures teaches us how to be saved.

The denominations of the world teach us to go against what Jesus says to do to get saved, as if we are to do nothing but believe.

Faith alone is dead. That is scripture from God. See James 2:17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

 

[God's Truth]

Following Jesus' instructions did not die at the cross and disappear.

So much confusion and trying to over simplify.

They teach not to obey, which is to teach against Jesus who tells us how to have him as a Teacher.

This man crying for good reason, because he still does not have the truth.

The man in the video went from a Joseph Smith follower to a Roger Williams follower.

 

[*Lavender]

He mentioned following Christ.
I know he should have mentioned repentance but it sounds like he had done that. For he mentioned the blood of Jesus washing him. As far as I remember. Didn't he say that he didn't know what a Baptist is.

 

[God's Truth]

He mentioned following Christ.

Mormons speak all the time of Christ too.

I know he should have mentioned repentance but it sounds like he had done that.

Faith alone wrongly says that to believe in Jesus is to repent. They do not preach to repent of sins, at least not most Baptist denominations.

For he mentioned the blood of Jesus washing him.

The blood of Jesus washes away the sins we repent of doing as we promise to die to the sins of the world and then live to please Jesus.

As far as I remember. Didn't he say that he didn't know what a Baptist is.

Could you elaborate on that?

 

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Micah = 'Who is like Jehovah?'

 

[*Lavender]

Repentance of sins yes, and turning away from them to turning to Christ to forgive them, cleanse them and to transform.

What he was saying that works do not earn salvation.
(Works are a product of salvation.)


When he said that the Mormon church accused him of several things, and a baptist. Then said if I didn't mishear "I don't know what a baptist is."

Could be right that you discerned something there. As God will say "I never knew you". There will be so many and there is so much deception.

On the other hand all children of God are in the process of being transformed, making mistakes on the way. Even some miscommunication. That doesn't mean they are not a Christian.

Who has perfection . Only God.
I don't think in terms of denominations. I think of God in Creation and the Ekklesia as the church.
That God will perfect.
Not there yet, except that the righteousness of Christ is the garment.

 

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The characters in the bible are very interesting and they tell us a lot about God. That is a very good subject.

Regarding children honouring their parents.
Small children wouldn't know right from wrong if their parents didn't know God.
That is of course very reflective of the world.
God can reach out to a small child. These children who were not properly parented by their biological parents are very special when then are parented by God.
They can honour their parents by following God by showing a better way.
I recently saw this testimony of a child. Not a young child but a young man who was previously a Mormon and came to know Jesus.
This tells about honouring your parents when your parents don't follow the Word of God, because he put God first and that honoured his parents who later came to know God.
Sorry this sounds a bit complicated but a powerful testimony.

Hello @Lavenderfields,

Thank you for sharing. Don't be distracted by contrary thoughts, expressed by those who do not understand the riches of God's grace.

You have a wonderful Lord. Keep your eyes on Him.

We have been saved by God's grace alone.

 

[*Lavender]

Hi,
I looked at the video again. He said that the Mormons said that he sounded like a baptist but he didn't know what that means.
He said that he was broken with sin and also that Jesus had washed him.
Micah focused on Jesus being more important than anything and anyone else.

 

[God's Truth]

Repentance of sins yes, and turning away from them to turning to Christ to forgive them, cleanse them and to transform.

What he was saying that works do not earn salvation.
(Works are a product of salvation.)

What works are a product and don't get us salvation?

This is important, so if you can give detail it will be valuable.

Obeying Jesus and what he says to do gets us salvation.

When he said that the Mormon church accused him of several things, and a baptist. Then said if I didn't mishear "I don't know what a baptist is."

I am not sure what your point is when you say that.
I don't remember him saying that, but he did say he got saved by believing as the Baptists, which is a teaching from a man named Roger Williams, as opposed to his teachings from a man named Joseph Smith/Mormon denomination.

We are only to do what Jesus says to do to get saved according to the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament.

It isn't a false works salvation to do what Jesus says to do to get saved.

Could be right that you discerned something there. As God will say "I never knew you". There will be so many and there is so much deception.

Surprised right now to read this from you. Amen. I hope you stay with me on this and discuss this more with me.

On the other hand all children of God are in the process of being transformed, making mistakes on the way. Even some miscommunication. That doesn't mean they are not a Christian.

Who has perfection . Only God.
I don't think in terms of denominations. I think of God in Creation and the Ekklesia as the church.

There are many different denominations and they all teach false ways to get saved.
The man was a Mormon, and Mormon is a denomination. He then became a Baptist. Baptist is a denomination.

That God will perfect.
Not there yet, except that the righteousness of Christ is the garment.

We can't teach the wrong way to get saved and call it the way to be clothed in Christ.

 

[God's Truth]

Hi,
I looked at the video again. He said that the Mormons said that he sounded like a baptist but he didn't know what that means.
He said that he was broken with sin and also that Jesus had washed him.
Micah focused on Jesus being more important than anything and anyone else.

We don't need any denomination to get saved, for they all teach falseness.
There are many denominations, so many.
I was baptized in the Catholic church by a mother and father whose ancestors were Catholic from the beginning of the Catholic denomination.
I started searching for God figuring He must be in one of the denominations and I started learning from the Jehovah Witnesses, and then the Mormons, and then later The Church of the Nazarene, the Word of Faith, the Four Square Church, the Pentecostals, the Baptists, the Calvinists, the Lutherans, etc.
They all preach falseness.
There is no way we can search all the denominations, and, Jesus isn't found in them.
Jesus is found by getting his teaching in the New Testament and doing what he says to do.
Jesus starts off by saying to repent of sins.
He also explains that we can't enter unless we humble ourselves as a little child ready to do whatever our parent says to do.