Spanking

[MedicBravo]

N so will I.. it's ok for you to point out as it is for me.. I hope you get enlightened by the Truth n not blinded..


Twistie

I'm not.
In fact, a lot of weak, lukewarm "Christians" who've made their own version of Jesus like those who "affirm" the Alphabet people living in willful sin and those "female pastors" need a good spanking from God.

 

[Twistie]

I'm not.
In fact, a lot of weak, lukewarm "Christians" who've made their own version of Jesus like those who "affirm" the Alphabet people living in willful sin and those "female pastors" need a good spanking from God.

My Lord tells me let the blind lead the blind even evil is under Him..

Luke warms are many many hired hands out here male n female n many are filled on the words of man.. many drink out of others Cisterns instead of drinking from their own like we r told..

Many think they need not to help the poor the sick n widows they have give no drink to the thirsty..

Many will cry Lord Lord amd will b rejected

I hope the truth enlightens ya n not blind ya..

For many have been turned ova to a reprobate mind



Twistie

 

[Bill]

I am not a parent, but I would love answers from
parents themselves.
At Winn-Dixie the other day, a small child was causing
a little chaos in the store, running around bouncing
balls and not putting them back, and he knocked
some items off shelves by accident, but didn't bother
to put them back either.
His mother spanked the child right there in the aisle,
and no one said anything to her, but I
heard an elderly woman behind me mutter
"How could she do that to her own child?"

I never thought much about spanking,
in fact, I was spanked myself when I was
younger. But more and more people
are saying that it is child abuse.
I never thought my mother was abusing me
when she spanked me...
Anyone agree or disagree?

It's not child abuse when you are correcting a child. It becomes child abuse when the punishment goes way way overboard.

In some ways, the little firm Corrections go a lot further than a hardcore spanking.

My wife and I were not able to have children of our own. We ended up fostering for a number of years and finally adopting children.

But I can tell parents without a doubt in my mind, it is very important to set corrective measures early on in a child's life versus waiting till they're older.

Forms of correcting children when they're young, other than spanking work very well. Especially when they get older and they remember things like standing in front of the clock for an hour repeating every 15 seconds I will not steal, or I will not be late for dinner, or whatever else.

I found that stacking firewood was a really good corrective measure. So after stacking a rick of firewood in one spot I would have the child remove that stack and move it to another spot and then back to the original spot again.

I know some of my friends used to think I was kind of mean. When my children were young and they wanted to stay inside the store when I was ready to leave. And I told them to get into the pickup truck and they ignored me. So I walked out of the store hopped in my pickup truck and drove off. Well not actually driving off all I would do is drive around the corner of the parking lot and wait in a different spot and watch the children come out feeling that I had left them behind. I'd wait a little bit watch them start crying and then step out of the truck and ask them if they learned the lesson yet.

I think only once I had to actually spank one of my children. And I think it hurt me more than him to do it. But you have to think of it as tough love

 

[Bill]

I'm not.
In fact, a lot of weak, lukewarm "Christians" who've made their own version of Jesus like those who "affirm" the Alphabet people living in willful sin and those "female pastors" need a good spanking from God.

God will judge

 

[Bill]

I am not a parent, but I would love answers from
parents themselves.
At Winn-Dixie the other day, a small child was causing
a little chaos in the store, running around bouncing
balls and not putting them back, and he knocked
some items off shelves by accident, but didn't bother
to put them back either.
His mother spanked the child right there in the aisle,
and no one said anything to her, but I
heard an elderly woman behind me mutter
"How could she do that to her own child?"

I never thought much about spanking,
in fact, I was spanked myself when I was
younger. But more and more people
are saying that it is child abuse.
I never thought my mother was abusing me
when she spanked me...
Anyone agree or disagree?

Not being able to have children of Our Own, my wife and I first were foster parents and then became adoptive parents. And when you're raising children up with the state basically being on your back you have some regulations that you have to follow. One of those include spanking or how you're allowed to spank a child. The state allows or at least the state of Michigan allows you to strike your child three times, I think the writing states that it can be firm but without leaving marks.

However my wife and I chose to use different means of discipline other than that. Some seem to be more effective While others were not quite so effective I'm sure. It was a learning experience.

I think the most important part when it comes to disciplining children especially if you have a spouse is that you and your spouse need to be on the same page. Because the child will always and I mean always go to the other spouse looking for sympathy. So if you're at odds with your child your spouse has to be on your side, and should support your decision.

No I've known parents that are a lot off, in my opinion. And not sound in their thinking when it comes to a lot of different things.
You should always understand that children at least to the age of 11 are always in game mode. What I mean is that everything is a game and not in a bad way it's just a game to them. I'm sure that you might have experienced or people here have experienced how when the child does something wrong they're kind of laughing about it thinking that it's fun when it's not something that the parent really wants them to do. So you have to understand that the child when they're young up to about the age 11 it's not that big of a deal for that child.

( I need to put in this little statement, I think the idea of children up to the age of 11 is for a child coming out of a somewhat normal family setting. Because there are plenty of children that come out of all sorts of really bad situations at home like like the parents are on meth or something worse going on at the house like the father raping the daughter and all sorts of crap)

But after the age of 11 I find the children tend to feel like they know everything. And I have a saying that I always tell teenagers. " teenagers think they know everything, when they know nothing " lol . Oh I'm sure there's plenty of teenagers out there that are intelligent or wise beyond their years in most ways. But there's still teenagers, and wisdom comes with age.

So back to punishments, things like standing in front of a clock and saying I will not do something every 5 Seconds is a very boring punishment to children because they're always in "let's hurry up mode".

Finding a way to slow your child down, maybe even reading a book with your child will do more wonders, then actual punishment. Don't think of it so much as a reward, think of it more of a manner of bonding deeper

 

[lentz]

I believe child beating in general is abuse and a faliure sign from the parents to communicate with the child, That faliure price is paid by the child only, no one else, though the child is not reposnible for it.
Personally I believe if it's spanking it would be more humiliating especially when the child get spanked or beated in genegral in fromt of others.

and I believe the rod that the Bible meant was the rod of love that a shephard has to guide it's sheep, I believe we can gain a child respect by making them love us, this is the rod, LOVE

I have communication problems because of rough unreasonable punishment I had when I was a child, and believe me, it hurts more than it helps, actually it doesn't discipline at all,

Jesus didn't punish one single child, and neither we should do, yet his remarkable love and his unique ability to communicate with them when he said in saint Mark Bible chapter 10 verses 14 and 15

But when Jesus saw it, he was moved with indignation, and said to them, “Allow the little children to come to me! Don’t forbid them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 10:15 Most certainly I tell you, whoever will not receive the Kingdom of God like a little child, he will in no way enter into it.”

so can I spank or beat a child, a saint, an innocent angel, because I failed to communicate?
And who said I'm the right one?
Why always the parents must be right?
Maybe the child is the right one in many times, who gave me the right to condemn those saints,

some childern grew and say to themselves, my parents were Christians, see how bad they were to me, and they leave Christianity,

Some parents don't allow their children to reach to Jesus because of their reactions and impatience to them

I believe Love is the road, and the rod,
with love you can put your child on the right way, and make him or her follow Jesus.
but with spanking, or any other rough or disrespect punishment, we will lose them and lose ourselves too.

How can you make someone love you? You can’t.
My kids knew I would tear that butt up.
By the time they were teenagers,if they were cutting up,all I had to do was look at them,and the whole world became calm.