The Myth of saying that God Loved all men in the world without exception !

[Brightfame52]

If God foreknew all without exception, then He predestinated all without exception, if He predestinated all without exception, then He called everyone without exception.

Rom 8:29-30

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

And if He called all without exception, then He Justified all without exception, and if He Justified all without exception, then He Glorified all without exception. This must be True if God Loved all without exception !

 

[KingJ]

@Brightfame52

Still waiting for you to answer post # 12.

Until you do, you need to understand that nobody is buying your 5 point Calvinist nonsense.

You have been EXPOSED as someone misteaching scripture to heavily incriminate God as an evil Being.

You are on par with NUDIST running into a church meeting. Quite SAD that that is the A-Z of @Brightfame52 and @Dylan569 .

The WOLF is NO LONGER in its SHEEP clothing and it keeps on posting day in day out thinking it is

 

[Brightfame52]

@Brightfame52

Still waiting for you to answer post # 12.

Until you do, you need to understand that nobody is buying your 5 point Calvinist nonsense.

You have been EXPOSED as someone misteaching scripture to heavily incriminate God as an evil Being.

You are on par with NUDIST running into a church meeting. Quite SAD that that is the A-Z of @Brightfame52 and @Dylan569 .

The WOLF is NO LONGER in its SHEEP clothing and it keeps on posting day in day out thinking it is

Lol i aint thinking about post 12

 

[KingJ]

Lol i aint thinking about post 12

*Hoping nobody notices. Sadly for you, you are so exposed.

 

[Curtis]

God predestined those whom he forknew would choose him.

 

[Brightfame52]

He called or named all without exception!

And if God called [named] all without exception, Them, He Justified all without exception.

Interesting also about the word called here in vs 30, its not the same word in vs 28 where the word for call is klētos which means:


called, invited (to a banquet)

a) invited (by God in the proclamation of the Gospel) to obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom through Christ

This word means more of an invite or a Divine summons

The word for called in vs 30 is the word kaleō which means:


to call

a) to call aloud, utter in a loud voice

b) to invite

2) to call i.e. to name, by name

a) to give a name to

1) to receive the name of, receive as a name

2) to give some name to one, call his name

It means to call by Name, or name someone, for instance here Matt 1:21

21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

So this call refers to God naming those that are His. Remember in John 10:

To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

So the called in Rom 8:30 is the naming of the Sheep, and so as we continue to look at those God Loved, if its all mankind without exception, then all mankind without exception has been named, all are His Sheep, His own Sheep. If that is True, then we have serious problems with what Jesus said to some of the unbelieving jews of His day, notice John 10:26

26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

Also, we have a problem with Jesus statement here in Matt 7:23

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

This would be a flat out lie and contradiction if Jesus Loved them, and they were His Sheep once, because its written here John 10:14

14I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

So if Christ Loved them, He knew them as His Sheep, and that would make Christ a Liar if He states to them in Matt 7:23 He NEVER KNEW THEM !

All this is the ramifications of insisting that God,and the Lord Jesus Christ loved all mankind without exception, the scriptures lead to this conclusion ! 2

 

[Brightfame52]

God predestined those whom he forknew would choose him.

Made up comment

 

[Brightfame52]

God predestined those whom he forknew would choose him.

If this was true, God would be showing respect of persons !

 

[KingJ]

If this was true, God would be showing respect of persons !

This line is unbelievable. You literally teach that God cherry picks people for heaven. There is no more literal case of 'respecter of persons' than your belief LMAO.

 

[KingJ]

If this was true, God would be showing respect of persons !

There is nothing ''respect of persons'' in God predestining in Christ the 'whomsoever' would choose Him.

I just cannot believe how ignorant you are. This is as bad as thinking 1 + 1 = 3. The equation here is as simple as 1 + 1 = 2.

Post #12 asks you to explain how 1 + 1 = 3. But, no @Brightfame52 is only here to dance for us. And try throw the bomb dropped on his head back as though it were a frisbee .

 

[Brightfame52]

This line is unbelievable. You literally teach that God cherry picks people for heaven. There is no more literal case of 'respecter of persons' than your belief LMAO.

Yet its true. He chooses one over another based upon some quality one had the other didnt

 

[Brightfame52]

@KingJ

There is nothing ''respect of persons'' in God predestining in Christ the 'whomsoever' would choose Him.

Yes it is

 

[Curtis]

Yet its true. He chooses one over another based upon some quality one had the other didnt

Was God having respect of persons when he told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Did their actions cause their downfall? How can God give eternal life to those who obey him? Whose idea was it to give eternal life to those who keep his word? Can a man give eternal life to himself on his own?

 

[Curtis]

God does not choose people who don’t want him. Whose idea was it to give man the choice of either life or death?
Does God give eternal life to those who choose life?

 

[Brightfame52]

@Curtis

God predestined those whom he forknew would choose him.

Not only is this God showing respect of persons, its the occasion for the sinner to boast , they were more wiser, less rebellious than than others who dont choose God.

 

[Brightfame52]

Was God having respect of persons when he told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Did their actions cause their downfall? How can God give eternal life to those who obey him? Whose idea was it to give eternal life to those who keep his word? Can a man give eternal life to himself on his own?

You not making a bit of sense.

 

[B-A-C]

If this was true, God would be showing respect of persons !

Yet its true. He chooses one over another based upon some quality one had the other didnt

Do you see any conflict between these two statements?

 

[Brightfame52]

Do you see any conflict between these two statements?

What do you mean ?

 

[KingJ]

@KingJ



Yes it is

Please explain why you say that.

 

[Brightfame52]

Please explain why you say that.

I already have, read my posts