The Two Witnesses? Dreams and Visions?

[Brad Huber]

There are no eyes that Need to be opened by the Lord. And there are no 'walls' in front of us To be seen.

Everyone from time to time, needs their eyes opened, its always a blessing, shrink not away from it due to pride.

 

[Sue D.]

My comment was made regarding Your comment regarding cannabalism -- the comments regarding the passage about the body and blood of Jesus Christ at the last supper. That if it was to be taken Literally -- then it would in actuality be cannabalism and , we know, it was Not cannabalism. It was sybolism.

The conversation was about the bread and the wine being a symbol and Not the actual body / blood of Jesus Christ they were partaking of. And That would sound like cannabalism. Which we know isn't the sitatuion.

So -- I repeat -- in This case there are no walls up and no eyes that need to be opened to 'see' that particular truth.

There is nothing prideful in this particular instance. And, yes, learning is a blessing. But , in This case, there is nothing To be learned. No blessing being missed.

 

[Bill]

I've been following these comments.

Brother-Paul is very correct. Symbolism.

Compare this to being baptized by immersion. It is symbolizes of that the person being baptized believes the Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose again bodily. The person being baptized is not expected to physically die on a cross - be buried- and rise again just like Jesus Christ did. It IS symbolic of what we believe that Jesus Christ did on the cross - being buried and rising again the 3rd day. We are brought back up out of the water -- the grave -- to show the new spiritual life we now have In Christ.

I dont agree to any of the symbolism. And this is why . More and more the Lors reveals to us the depth of Himself . The fulness of Jesus .

Look at John 1.1 . In the beginning was the Word , the Word was with God and was God .

The Word is not a symbol of who Jesus is , but it is infact what Jesus is .

When Jesus refers to Himself as the Life Giving Water , He is not talking of a symbol , but truth . As He IS life giving water .

We talk about the Rock that followed the Israelites in the desert as a symbol, but in truth, it is reality , especially for those who drank from it.

Jesus states , " this is My body " " this is my blood "

We dont see it as flesh and blood , but then the Israelites in the desert did not recognize Jesus either, in the Rock.

There is much more to God than we know .

 

[Brother-Paul]

Yes, it is clear.... you are assuming thats what its saying, because you have been taught so. You use the word "it" as if that explains it (not meant to be joking, although it was funny when I read it), and all that it explains is that it is the bread, it doesnt make any assumptions about the bread, simply that it is. How does that support your assumption?

That is not so Brad,

I have no connections at a to any denomination. Scripture itself tells us clearly, in the upper room, before Christ was crucified, he took 'bread'he took 'wine', he gave thanks then told his disciples, DO THIS in REMEMBRANCE of me. Do this,take bread, break it, take wine drink of it, in remembrance of me.

 

[Brother-Paul]

Brothers and sisters in Christ, this is maybe not be right place to put this, but I saw the odd comment and had to reply. But for me I don't expect to be on here much today. As many know I am disabled, I use a power wheel hair but in the bungalow I hobble around. Last night I fell again, my leg just gave way, I went down between the bed and the wardrobe. Last time this happened we had to get ambulance and two guys to lift me, I am only 16 stone, but with Back and hip injuries, lifting has to be done carefully.

But with covid, hurting and frustrated, I refused to allow my wife to phone then, as if I could stop her, but she knew the reason so went along with it.

I slowly tried to shuffle be able to get on my stomach, having done so I used my hand to try put myself up and get on my knees, but my knees have gone and won't take my body weight. There was a cries of pain one after another, my wife trying to help though she has rheumatoid and osteo arthritis, I grab bed the mattress and just kept pulling till eventual I was on the bed.

It's been a rough night, I have had little sleep, I am in so much pain, but the good Lord will not let us suffer more than we can take, and will never suffer as much as what he did for me.

I'll be back, see how things go, I am used to pain 24/7 but this is extreme, nothing broken, my body yes, but I'll pull through, Jesus is Lord, greater is He who is within me.

Blessings to you all. In Jesus Name Amen

 

[Trevor]

I am not so sure brother. It "may" be symbolic, but many of His followers left him when He said the following. I dont say this as a catholic, for I am not a catholic. But when I share the eucharist, "I" ask that the Lord share with me His body and His blood. Why would the incident even be recorded if not for the importance of the ceremony. Many left Him because of it, let us not share in that turning away.

I thought, Brad, Jesus said "do this in remembrance of me". When we eat and drink the bread and the wine, we remember the broken body and the shed blood and praise the Lord for what he did. I don't remember him saying "Do this, it is me". Blessings.

 

[Bill]

Brothers and sisters in Christ, this is maybe not be right place to put this, but I saw the odd comment and had to reply. But for me I don't expect to be on here much today. As many know I am disabled, I use a power wheel hair but in the bungalow I hobble around. Last night I fell again, my leg just gave way, I went down between the bed and the wardrobe. Last time this happened we had to get ambulance and two guys to lift me, I am only 16 stone, but with Back and hip injuries, lifting has to be done carefully.

But with covid, hurting and frustrated, I refused to allow my wife to phone then, as if I could stop her, but she knew the reason so went along with it.

I slowly tried to shuffle be able to get on my stomach, having done so I used my hand to try put myself up and get on my knees, but my knees have gone and won't take my body weight. There was a cries of pain one after another, my wife trying to help though she has rheumatoid and osteo arthritis, I grab bed the mattress and just kept pulling till eventual I was on the bed.

It's been a rough night, I have had little sleep, I am in so much pain, but the good Lord will not let us suffer more than we can take, and will never suffer as much as what he did for me.

I'll be back, see how things go, I am used to pain 24/7 but this is extreme, nothing broken, my body yes, but I'll pull through, Jesus is Lord, greater is He who is within me.

Blessings to you all. In Jesus Name Amen

You are in my prayers brother God's love be yours always

 

[Trevor]

Brothers and sisters in Christ, this is maybe not be right place to put this, but I saw the odd comment and had to reply. But for me I don't expect to be on here much today. As many know I am disabled, I use a power wheel hair but in the bungalow I hobble around. Last night I fell again, my leg just gave way, I went down between the bed and the wardrobe. Last time this happened we had to get ambulance and two guys to lift me, I am only 16 stone, but with Back and hip injuries, lifting has to be done carefully.

But with covid, hurting and frustrated, I refused to allow my wife to phone then, as if I could stop her, but she knew the reason so went along with it.

I slowly tried to shuffle be able to get on my stomach, having done so I used my hand to try put myself up and get on my knees, but my knees have gone and won't take my body weight. There was a cries of pain one after another, my wife trying to help though she has rheumatoid and osteo arthritis, I grab bed the mattress and just kept pulling till eventual I was on the bed.

It's been a rough night, I have had little sleep, I am in so much pain, but the good Lord will not let us suffer more than we can take, and will never suffer as much as what he did for me.

I'll be back, see how things go, I am used to pain 24/7 but this is extreme, nothing broken, my body yes, but I'll pull through, Jesus is Lord, greater is He who is within me.

Blessings to you all. In Jesus Name Amen

Bless you too Paul, that must have been horrible, our prayers are with you.

 

[Sue D.]

@Brother-Paul ==so sorry to hear that -- trust you'll get the help you need.

 

[Bill]

I thought, Brad, Jesus said "do this in remembrance of me". When we eat and drink the bread and the wine, we remember the broken body and the shed blood and praise the Lord for what he did. I don't remember him saying "Do this, it is me". Blessings.

I know that there are two trains of thought on this subject , to me both hold validity. So long as everyone breaks the bread, as there is something special within the moment.

After the Resurrection, on the road to Ammaus ( spelling might be wrong ) . Jesus joined some of His Apostles , they did not recognize Him . He spoke the Word ( the Scriptures, to them. And even though it was like a fire burning in them , they still did not recognize Him. But when He said the Blessing , and Broke the Bread , it was then that they Recognized Him.

 

[Bill]

Brothers and sisters in Christ, this is maybe not be right place to put this, but I saw the odd comment and had to reply. But for me I don't expect to be on here much today. As many know I am disabled, I use a power wheel hair but in the bungalow I hobble around. Last night I fell again, my leg just gave way, I went down between the bed and the wardrobe. Last time this happened we had to get ambulance and two guys to lift me, I am only 16 stone, but with Back and hip injuries, lifting has to be done carefully.

But with covid, hurting and frustrated, I refused to allow my wife to phone then, as if I could stop her, but she knew the reason so went along with it.

I slowly tried to shuffle be able to get on my stomach, having done so I used my hand to try put myself up and get on my knees, but my knees have gone and won't take my body weight. There was a cries of pain one after another, my wife trying to help though she has rheumatoid and osteo arthritis, I grab bed the mattress and just kept pulling till eventual I was on the bed.

It's been a rough night, I have had little sleep, I am in so much pain, but the good Lord will not let us suffer more than we can take, and will never suffer as much as what he did for me.

I'll be back, see how things go, I am used to pain 24/7 but this is extreme, nothing broken, my body yes, but I'll pull through, Jesus is Lord, greater is He who is within me.

Blessings to you all. In Jesus Name Amen

Its a great place to place it , and good timing too . As seeing the Lords Hand to remind us . We may have different thought, but we are still sisters and brothers in Jesus.

 

[Sue D.]

I know that there are two trains of thought on this subject , to me both hold validity. So long as everyone breaks the bread, as there is something special within the moment.

After the Resurrection, on the road to Ammaus ( spelling might be wrong ) . Jesus joined some of His Apostles , they did not recognize Him . He spoke the Word ( the Scriptures, to them. And even though it was like a fire burning in them , they still did not recognize Him. But when He said the Blessing , and Broke the Bread , it was then that they Recognized Him.

I was just looking at the various post resurrection events -- where do you find about the road to Amaus and Him saying those things -- blessing, and breakeing he bread.

 

[B-A-C]

I was just looking at the various post resurrection events -- where do you find about the road to Amaus and Him saying those things -- blessing, and breakeing he bread.

Luke 24:13; then jump to Luke 24:30; But He doesn't say anything the the bread being His body here.

 

[Brad Huber]

Brothers and sisters in Christ, this is maybe not be right place to put this, but I saw the odd comment and had to reply. But for me I don't expect to be on here much today. As many know I am disabled, I use a power wheel hair but in the bungalow I hobble around. Last night I fell again, my leg just gave way, I went down between the bed and the wardrobe. Last time this happened we had to get ambulance and two guys to lift me, I am only 16 stone, but with Back and hip injuries, lifting has to be done carefully.

But with covid, hurting and frustrated, I refused to allow my wife to phone then, as if I could stop her, but she knew the reason so went along with it.

I slowly tried to shuffle be able to get on my stomach, having done so I used my hand to try put myself up and get on my knees, but my knees have gone and won't take my body weight. There was a cries of pain one after another, my wife trying to help though she has rheumatoid and osteo arthritis, I grab bed the mattress and just kept pulling till eventual I was on the bed.

It's been a rough night, I have had little sleep, I am in so much pain, but the good Lord will not let us suffer more than we can take, and will never suffer as much as what he did for me.

I'll be back, see how things go, I am used to pain 24/7 but this is extreme, nothing broken, my body yes, but I'll pull through, Jesus is Lord, greater is He who is within me.

Blessings to you all. In Jesus Name Amen

Sorry to hear that Paul, I pray the Lords strength upon both you and your wife. And speedy recovery.

 

[Trevor]

I know that there are two trains of thought on this subject , to me both hold validity. So long as everyone breaks the bread, as there is something special within the moment.

After the Resurrection, on the road to Ammaus ( spelling might be wrong ) . Jesus joined some of His Apostles , they did not recognize Him . He spoke the Word ( the Scriptures, to them. And even though it was like a fire burning in them , they still did not recognize Him. But when He said the Blessing , and Broke the Bread , it was then that they Recognized Him.

God will honour any true heart Bill and if we have got it wrong, it won't be long before he puts us right.

 

[Andyindauk]

Brothers and sisters in Christ, this is maybe not be right place to put this, but I saw the odd comment and had to reply. But for me I don't expect to be on here much today. As many know I am disabled, I use a power wheel hair but in the bungalow I hobble around. Last night I fell again, my leg just gave way, I went down between the bed and the wardrobe. Last time this happened we had to get ambulance and two guys to lift me, I am only 16 stone, but with Back and hip injuries, lifting has to be done carefully.

But with covid, hurting and frustrated, I refused to allow my wife to phone then, as if I could stop her, but she knew the reason so went along with it.

I slowly tried to shuffle be able to get on my stomach, having done so I used my hand to try put myself up and get on my knees, but my knees have gone and won't take my body weight. There was a cries of pain one after another, my wife trying to help though she has rheumatoid and osteo arthritis, I grab bed the mattress and just kept pulling till eventual I was on the bed.

It's been a rough night, I have had little sleep, I am in so much pain, but the good Lord will not let us suffer more than we can take, and will never suffer as much as what he did for me.

I'll be back, see how things go, I am used to pain 24/7 but this is extreme, nothing broken, my body yes, but I'll pull through, Jesus is Lord, greater is He who is within me.

Blessings to you all. In Jesus Name Amen

Awwww Paul,

Only just seen this post. I do really hope and pray that over the last few days the pain has subsided and the healing started. I'm praying for your recovery and tons of God's blessings upon you through His Holy Spirit.

Please get better soon and take it easy bro xx

 

[Brother-Paul]

Many thanks to all for your heart felt comments and prayers.

I am never without pain, but when something silly happens I get to a level where firstly it is unbearable, secondly it screws your mind up, you cannot get comfortable, every move is agony. Once it affects my thinking I back off everything, it is so hard, I am not yet back to the coping level but I am thinking clearer again. So beware LOL.

I have missed you guys, prayed for you daily, but most of all I thank you for your prayers, I felt them, isn't that wonderful.

There are some great guys on here (and gals), you are a lovely bunch of brothers and sisters.

May the good Lord Bless you all, in abundance even to overflowing.

In His Love

Your brother in Christ

Paul \o/

 

[Nicola Jane]

Many thanks to all for your heart felt comments and prayers.

I am never without pain, but when something silly happens I get to a level where firstly it is unbearable, secondly it screws your mind up, you cannot get comfortable, every move is agony. Once it affects my thinking I back off everything, it is so hard, I am not yet back to the coping level but I am thinking clearer again. So beware LOL.

I have missed you guys, prayed for you daily, but most of all I thank you for your prayers, I felt them, isn't that wonderful.

There are some great guys on here (and gals), you are a lovely bunch of brothers and sisters.

May the good Lord Bless you all, in abundance even to overflowing.

In His Love

Your brother in Christ

Paul \o/

So glad your back brother paul
\●/ PTL

 

[Bill]

Many thanks to all for your heart felt comments and prayers.

I am never without pain, but when something silly happens I get to a level where firstly it is unbearable, secondly it screws your mind up, you cannot get comfortable, every move is agony. Once it affects my thinking I back off everything, it is so hard, I am not yet back to the coping level but I am thinking clearer again. So beware LOL.

I have missed you guys, prayed for you daily, but most of all I thank you for your prayers, I felt them, isn't that wonderful.

There are some great guys on here (and gals), you are a lovely bunch of brothers and sisters.

May the good Lord Bless you all, in abundance even to overflowing.

In His Love

Your brother in Christ

Paul \o/

Well lets get with it Paul . You are slacking . You know i need your comments lol

I am glad to hear you are doing better. You are in my prayers , Brother

 

[Brother-Paul]

So glad your back brother paul
\●/ PTL

Thank you Nicola,

It's good to be back, your quick to reply sister... Nic Nic