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[Bill]

I never watch those videos, i prefer reading your views

 

[Waggles]

To the Jews God commanded them to -
Leviticus 19:33 “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong.
34 You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 10:18 He executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing.
19 Love the sojourner, therefore, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt.

And to the Jews and to us God teaches -
Matthew 5:43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.’
44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?

 

[Waggles]

How is it that many "Christians" have turned the gospel of peace and grace into a gospel of war and genocide??

Romans 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honourable in the sight of all.
18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

 

[Waggles]

How is it that many "Christians" have turned the gospel of peace and grace into a gospel of war and genocide??

Romans 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honourable in the sight of all.
18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

 

[lentz]

Niether are anti-Christ's. If you want to get crazy technical , anyone who does not do the will of God, is an anti-Christ.

The whole concept that people are anti Christ because they do not think like us is ludacris.

Christians themselves are thier own worst enemies. How easily we forget the words of Jesus in the Our Father prayer. " and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"

Trespassing against us ..... our beliefs, our faith, our lives, our God.

So when we judge others to be anti-Christs, where is our forgiveness for them?

Thats not what john said.

 

[Waggles]

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[lentz]

Niether are anti-Christ's. If you want to get crazy technical , anyone who does not do the will of God, is an anti-Christ.

The whole concept that people are anti Christ because they do not think like us is ludacris.

Christians themselves are thier own worst enemies. How easily we forget the words of Jesus in the Our Father prayer. " and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"

Trespassing against us ..... our beliefs, our faith, our lives, our God.

So when we judge others to be anti-Christs, where is our forgiveness for them?

1st John chapter 2 says if you don’t have the Son,you don’t have the Father either.
The Jews do not believe Christ is the Messiah,they are still waiting for him to be born.
John himself says these are Antichrists.
Talk to him about it if you disagree

 

[Hekuran]

There are many faithful Christians in both Gaza and Israel. Let's pray for them to persevere amid the violence, hatred and fear.

 

[Bill]

1st John chapter 2 says if you don’t have the Son,you don’t have the Father either.
The Jews do not believe Christ is the Messiah,they are still waiting for him to be born.
John himself says these are Antichrists.
Talk to him about it if you disagree

But that could be true of anyone to be quite honest with you. I mean if you want to get super super technical and I mean this is like stupid technical honestly. Because I'm Catholic and I understand the way the Catholics are but I also understand the way the Protestants are and I don't have a problem but the reason that I don't have the problem is because I understand the fullness of Jesus whereas both the Catholics and the Protestants have a little bit of a problem understanding the fullness of what Jesus is beyond the Son of God.

Understanding the fullness of Jesus includes understanding that he is the Word of God. It's also understanding that Jesus is Love because as the scripture States, "God is Love". And there's some other deeper understandings of the Fullness of Jesus.

The problem that both the Catholics and the Protestants have is the same issue. It has to do with what you are brought up to believe as what Jesus is, and on both sides the understanding of Jesus is limited.

As an example, the Catholics who are not wrong in this belief, view that the bread and the wine after being blessed by the priest becomes the Eucharist it becomes the body and the blood of Jesus. This concept is beyond the understanding of most Protestants.

On the other hand the Protestants view the understanding of Jesus as the Personal Jesus and receiving the Personal Jesus not into your heart but into your mind which is not totally correct and it's very unfortunate. What I have been trying to show here in the chat Talk Jesus. Is that you have to receive Jesus into your heart.

All of scripture has to agree with itself you cannot take bits and pieces of it to State your claim. So let's say you have the Pentecostals who are very much into the gifts of the Holy Spirit limitedly. They feel that if you do not speak in tongues you do not have the gifts of the Holy Spirit which is foolishness. Not everyone gets the gift of tongues. And Paul himself tells us that we should strive for the greater gifts not for tongues. But you see people don't listen to Paul they don't listen to Jesus they don't listen to the scripture they only take what they want and leave the rest of it for the dogs basically.

Okay so after having this long discourse let us go back to what you just said

If you do not have the Son you do not have the Father. I might have to reread that scripture, but to understand things from my perspective. If a person has God in their heart, but do not understand the Son of God, Jesus. To me this is not a problem. Because if you already have God in your heart, what part of God is Not Jesus. Did not Jesus say that he and the father were One?

 

[Bill]

How is it that many "Christians" have turned the gospel of peace and grace into a gospel of war and genocide??

Romans 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honourable in the sight of all.
18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Just wait till I get rolling in Jerusalem, I think they will think of it as a Scripture of Judgment. Lol

 

[lentz]

But that could be true of anyone to be quite honest with you. I mean if you want to get super super technical and I mean this is like stupid technical honestly. Because I'm Catholic and I understand the way the Catholics are but I also understand the way the Protestants are and I don't have a problem but the reason that I don't have the problem is because I understand the fullness of Jesus whereas both the Catholics and the Protestants have a little bit of a problem understanding the fullness of what Jesus is beyond the Son of God.

Understanding the fullness of Jesus includes understanding that he is the Word of God. It's also understanding that Jesus is Love because as the scripture States, "God is Love". And there's some other deeper understandings of the Fullness of Jesus.

The problem that both the Catholics and the Protestants have is the same issue. It has to do with what you are brought up to believe as what Jesus is, and on both sides the understanding of Jesus is limited.

As an example, the Catholics who are not wrong in this belief, view that the bread and the wine after being blessed by the priest becomes the Eucharist it becomes the body and the blood of Jesus. This concept is beyond the understanding of most Protestants.

On the other hand the Protestants view the understanding of Jesus as the Personal Jesus and receiving the Personal Jesus not into your heart but into your mind which is not totally correct and it's very unfortunate. What I have been trying to show here in the chat Talk Jesus. Is that you have to receive Jesus into your heart.

All of scripture has to agree with itself you cannot take bits and pieces of it to State your claim. So let's say you have the Pentecostals who are very much into the gifts of the Holy Spirit limitedly. They feel that if you do not speak in tongues you do not have the gifts of the Holy Spirit which is foolishness. Not everyone gets the gift of tongues. And Paul himself tells us that we should strive for the greater gifts not for tongues. But you see people don't listen to Paul they don't listen to Jesus they don't listen to the scripture they only take what they want and leave the rest of it for the dogs basically.

Okay so after having this long discourse let us go back to what you just said

If you do not have the Son you do not have the Father. I might have to reread that scripture, but to understand things from my perspective. If a person has God in their heart, but do not understand the Son of God, Jesus. To me this is not a problem. Because if you already have God in your heart, what part of God is Not Jesus. Did not Jesus say that he and the father were One?

John wasn’t depicting Israel exclusively,true anyone who denies Christ is anti.
I only use Israel exclusively because that is the subject of thread.
To say God is on Israel’s side and will bless them over their enemies is out of harmony with God’s character. He is not respecter of persons.

 

[Bill]

John wasn’t depicting Israel exclusively,true anyone who denies Christ is anti.
I only use Israel exclusively because that is the subject of thread.
To say God is on Israel’s side and will bless them over their enemies is out of harmony with God’s character. He is not respecter of persons.

I disagree with your conclusion, because we know that in Scripture it states that the Jews are the apple of God's eye.

Also the 6-day war cannot be denied, and even here even after the Jews have separated themselves from Jesus, you can see that God still loves them

 

[lentz]

I disagree with your conclusion, because we know that in Scripture it states that the Jews are the apple of God's eye.

Also the 6-day war cannot be denied, and even here even after the Jews have separated themselves from Jesus, you can see that God still loves them

God still loves the worst of sinners. You’re comparing taters ta onions

 

[Waggles]

 

[Bill]

God still loves the worst of sinners. You’re comparing taters ta onions

They are both veggies.

I am not comparring those who think they are followers of Jesus, yet refuse to do anything Jesus has asked, to the Jews who have not accepted Jesus, yet live thier lives as if they did. No comparision.

 

[lentz]

They are both veggies.

I am not comparring those who think they are followers of Jesus, yet refuse to do anything Jesus has asked, to the Jews who have not accepted Jesus, yet live thier lives as if they did. No comparision.

Lost is lost bill.
Being good and praising God don’t get it done.
You must believe Christ is who he says he is put all faith in him.
Jesus said everyone who says Lord Lord will not enter in. What will he say to those who don’t even call him Lord?

 

[Waggles]

 

[Waggles]

However, as I say, our news was dominated by developments in Gaza not Ukraine, and in particular by Israeli bombing of the Jabalya refugee camp a second time,
adding to the hundreds of dead and wounded from the terror unleashed by Tel Aviv the day before.
CNN, the BBC and other major Western broadcasters interviewed President Isaac Herzog and also top Israeli military spokesmen for clarifications and what they,
and we, heard was shocking for its callous disregard of international conventions to protect civilians.
Two hundred or more Palestinian children, women and old men were killed instantly when Israel sought to murder one key Hamas officer believed to have his headquarters
under the camp.
For the Israeli military spokesman interviewed this was just a “tragedy of war.”
Even the hard-hearted Wolf Blitzer of CNN was visibly stunned by these politically incorrect and, incidentally, inhumane remarks.

In short, both the scenes of the intensifying humanitarian catastrophe and the ugly face of the Israeli government were on television screens for all to see on U.S. and European media,
not just on Russian television or Al Jazeera.
That the “Arab street” was enraged and pressing rulers in the Middle East to DO SOMETHING to stop the bloodshed is clear.
But even the fall-out in the American Jewish community, not to mention the broad American public, began to look ominous for the re-election chances of Joe Biden.

Before the tragic scenario in Gaza approached its crescendo, on 1 November the former Washington bureau chief of The Financial Times Edward Luce contributed an article
to the paper entitled “Netanyahu is an albatross around Biden’s neck” in which he argued that Biden has done his best to temper the vengeful behaviour of Netanyahu.
Biden is said to have counselled restraint when he visited Israel a week ago.
Said Luce, Biden is just unable to bring influence to bear on the Israeli premier.
The article was obviously believed to be so insightful by the editors that they ran it a second day.

In any case, the FT’s conclusion that Biden wasn’t up to the task had consequences.
The number one news item this morning on major Western media was the departure of Secretary State Antony Blinken for Israel where his stated mission is to press
the Israelis to make “humanitarian pauses” in their onslaught so as to facilitate the release of the hostages held by Hamas, and for an increased flow of trucks bringing food,
medicine and water into the Gaza enclave from Egypt.

What is missing from these accounts is exactly what leverage Blinken has that his boss lacked.
And it is doubtful he can use the one device that would do the job: to threaten to stop U.S. shipments of arms and replacement missiles for the Iron Dome if the Israelis
do not take orders and desist.

No, the U.S. is doing the exact opposite: making the Israeli war its own by sending not only naval task forces to the Eastern Mediterranean to ensure air dominance and
effective anti-missile protection for U.S. assets in the region while Israel plays at arson, but also boots on the ground.
It is rumoured that the U.S. has already delivered 6,000 men at arms to Israel.
The only thing missing in all this is an American strategy, a clearly defined end objective that can be explained to the American electorate and negotiated to successful conclusion
with all sides, Israel included.
If this sounds like a compounded version of the ongoing military and political shambles of U.S. policy on Ukraine, it is because the same authors in Washington have written both scripts.

©Gilbert Doctorow, 2023

 

[Waggles]

 

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