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I leave nothing out of the equation - there is no reason to mention grace when it is a "given" unless someone has the wrong, calvinistic teaching on grace. Just like I don't mention the sun is shining...there's no reason to until someone else brings it up. As for "law," (I assume you refer to my comment to Sue) God is not legalistic, but He is legal. Show me that you have some spiritual understanding so that I don't have to explain that to you!!!

The letter of the law "death ". Thou shall not violate the written will or you will not rise on the last day .

Not one Jot of tittle of that law can be removed until the last day under the Sun .The the death of death is certain it will be cast into the Spirit of Judgement . The letter (death) will not rise in the new order and condemn through corruption another entire creation . Plants, animals. and people animals. . all living things.

How can we recognize if someone has the teaching of grace inadequately? Seeing there are many oral tradition as personal commentaries or called private interpretations also called heresies . Which is another word for sect or denomination.?? In that way we are informed there must be heresies (denominations) amongst us.
 
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It is good to be assured of Salvation at times like this

Blessings to you @Bob Carabbio
Indeed it is!!! They didn't find anything in terms of arterial blockage, so I'm holding at 13 heart attacks, Two open hearts, and 21 Stents. But my blood oxygen level has taken a step reduction, so the Congestive heart failure issue is advancing. It's disappointing that there was no "quick fix" that would restore "normalcy" like it has it the past, but life goes on anyway.
 
Like I told Sue...I can demonstrates the correct translation anytime, anywhere, through the use of a complete Biblical set of principles of interpretation. Therefore, it is not "as I understand it," but rather, "the correct translation" which I do believe you are trying to say "correct interpretation." While I do have the ability to translate Greek, what you are talking about is interpretation, no?



I agree...many, many Christians are stuck in that "teenage" stage where they think they know what they are talking about, when they really don't. Howbeit, though, I am not one of them. I grew up many years ago, and the call God placed upon me started that 'growing.'



I leave nothing out of the equation - there is no reason to mention grace when it is a "given" unless someone has the wrong, calvinistic teaching on grace. Just like I don't mention the sun is shining...there's no reason to until someone else brings it up. As for "law," (I assume you refer to my comment to Sue) God is not legalistic, but He is legal. Show me that you have some spiritual understanding so that I don't have to explain that to you!!!

Blessings!
See that is exactly what i was talking about . I quoted scripture a few times, but it goes right over your head.

There are so many " scholars " of scripture here at talk Jesus, but all fail to see scripture when it is spoken . Its why i never say what i am quoting .

" those who do not know the Law, yet follow the Law written in thier hearts could be said to be the Law "

This is scripture.

Those who live by the Law, yet do not know the Law , have the Law written in thier hearts "

This is scripture

I am One of the Two lol.
If you had understanding , if you used your discernment , you might learn something.

I will not answer you , as you do not want to hear God either.
 
I agree...the real question is, do YOU know which time is which?
Sorry buddy , my time is almost here . And there is no one who will silence me.

Do you know what the fire is that comes from the mouths of the Two Witnesses? It is the Word of God
 
The letter of the law "death ". Thou shall not violate the written will or you will not rise on the last day .

Not one Jot of tittle of that law can be removed until the last day under the Sun .The the death of death is certain it will be cast into the Spirit of Judgement . The letter (death) will not rise in the new order and condemn through corruption another entire creation . Plants, animals. and people animals. . all living things.

How can we recognize if someone has the teaching of grace inadequately? Seeing there are many oral tradition as personal commentaries or called private interpretations also called heresies . Which is another word for sect or denomination.?? In that way we are informed there must be heresies (denominations) amongst us.
How can anyone know what is Truth when virtually no one bothers to use the Gift of Discernment.

Even here and now, in this very chat . I already know who have the Gifts and who do not. This is becuase i have used the Gifts all my life. I can recognize the movement of the Spirit and when the devil is at work in the very words that are written, even those written here.

I may know what is truth, but how can anyone share the truth when so many who claim to know scripture when it is clear, they do not.

So much deception, so many lies believed and constantly taught.

An example , the nonsense with the rapture before Christ's return. Its a lie. It is a trap by the devil. So many believe that crap. So great a delusion. Many will leave the Christian churches to the one world church because of it.

Another lie . Getting the mark of the beast ok if you are saved.

Let me tell you, you get the Mark of the Beast , its a sentance to hell.
It is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

Another lie , Catholics are not Christians

Anyone who can not forgive your brothers and sisters will not see Heaven
 
Sorry buddy , my time is almost here . And there is no one who will silence me.

Do you know what the fire is that comes from the mouths of the Two Witnesses? It is the Word of God

Um, no. You are spiritualizing Scripture that is not meant to be so. The fire that comes out of their mouths is literal fire, just as the passage talks about...

Revelation 11:5
And if anyone would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes. If anyone would harm them, this is how he is doomed to be killed.

You appear to make yourself out to be what you are not.
 
How can anyone know what is Truth when virtually no one bothers to use the Gift of Discernment.

Even here and now, in this very chat . I already know who have the Gifts and who do not. This is becuase i have used the Gifts all my life. I can recognize the movement of the Spirit and when the devil is at work in the very words that are written, even those written here.

I may know what is truth, but how can anyone share the truth when so many who claim to know scripture when it is clear, they do not.

So much deception, so many lies believed and constantly taught.

An example , the nonsense with the rapture before Christ's return. Its a lie. It is a trap by the devil. So many believe that crap. So great a delusion. Many will leave the Christian churches to the one world church because of it.

Another lie . Getting the mark of the beast ok if you are saved.

Let me tell you, you get the Mark of the Beast , its a sentance to hell.
It is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

Another lie , Catholics are not Christians

Anyone who can not forgive your brothers and sisters will not see Heaven

You claim to have discernment, but have little evidence to prove that claim. Catholics are not Christians...again, anyone who prays to dead "saints" and bows before idols are not Christians. Furthermore, Scripture teaches clearly and plainly that the Rapture will take place before the Great Tribulation period, anyone who cannot discern that truth in Scripture is brainwashed or beguiled by false doctrine. The only thing you said that is Scriptural, is the last sentence, which I whole heartedly agree with.
 
See that is exactly what i was talking about . I quoted scripture a few times, but it goes right over your head.

Are you now lying, or just confused? I went over the last two pages, and you have NOT quoted any passages to me at all...much less any that 'went over my head'...

There are so many " scholars " of scripture here at talk Jesus, but all fail to see scripture when it is spoken . Its why i never say what i am quoting .

Ah...so in your mind you quote Scripture without actually quoting Scripture...very interesting indeed... I have not met one "scholar" here yet, to whom to you refer?

" those who do not know the Law, yet follow the Law written in thier hearts could be said to be the Law "

This is scripture.

Nope...maybe Scriptura according to Bill, but that doesn't count for anything. Who do you think you are? making up your own 'scripture' like that?

Those who live by the Law, yet do not know the Law , have the Law written in thier hearts "

This is scripture

Wrong again...and you have not given the addresses of these supposed Scriptures. What are they? Bill 1:21-23? The fact that you do not quote them accurately nor give their addresses demonstrates something, but I will leave that for others to discern...

I am One of the Two lol.
If you had understanding , if you used your discernment , you might learn something.

I have indeed learned something...you think you are "One of the Two" in your mind...did you take your meds today? You do obviously think you are something that you are not...

I will not answer you , as you do not want to hear God either.


Nice try, but you will not answer because something is not right 'upstairs,' and no other reason. I do want to hear from God, but you are not God, nor are you anything from Him; this your words clearly demonstrate.
 
Have you never read in Scripture " the fire of God consumes me"
 
Are you now lying, or just confused? I went over the last two pages, and you have NOT quoted any passages to me at all...much less any that 'went over my head'...



Ah...so in your mind you quote Scripture without actually quoting Scripture...very interesting indeed... I have not met one "scholar" here yet, to whom to you refer?



Nope...maybe Scriptura according to Bill, but that doesn't count for anything. Who do you think you are? making up your own 'scripture' like that?



Wrong again...and you have not given the addresses of these supposed Scriptures. What are they? Bill 1:21-23? The fact that you do not quote them accurately nor give their addresses demonstrates something, but I will leave that for others to discern...



I have indeed learned something...you think you are "One of the Two" in your mind...did you take your meds today? You do obviously think you are something that you are not...




Nice try, but you will not answer because something is not right 'upstairs,' and no other reason. I do want to hear from God, but you are not God, nor are you anything from Him; this your words clearly demonstrate.
I rest my case
 
How can anyone know what is Truth when virtually no one bothers to use the Gift of Discernment.

Even here and now, in this very chat . I already know who have the Gifts and who do not. This is becuase i have used the Gifts all my life. I can recognize the movement of the Spirit and when the devil is at work in the very words that are written, even those written here.

I may know what is truth, but how can anyone share the truth when so many who claim to know scripture when it is clear, they do not.

So much deception, so many lies believed and constantly taught.

An example , the nonsense with the rapture before Christ's return. Its a lie. It is a trap by the devil. So many believe that crap. So great a delusion. Many will leave the Christian churches to the one world church because of it.

Another lie . Getting the mark of the beast ok if you are saved.

Let me tell you, you get the Mark of the Beast , its a sentance to hell.
It is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

Another lie , Catholics are not Christians

Anyone who can not forgive your brothers and sisters will not see Heaven

Hi Thanks I would offer.

The gift varies on the user and by the will of the gift giver. . The gifts are designed for those who obey the loving commandment to study to show oneself approved unto God.(2 Timothy 2:15)

It is in respect to two people walking as one in peaceful agreement .The peace of God that surpasses our understanding by which we can receive his understanding as it is written .That work of peace was demonstrated by the Father and Son. The three day and night parable

In that way God is not served or heals by human hands (Acts 17) as if he, who satisfies every need, needed something from the clay he forms Christ in.

He moves mankind empowering them to do His will. In that way He can I believe use a creature designed to support a burden such as an Ass like that of Balaam the false prophet false apostle. .

The Spirit of Christ putting his word in the mouth of an Ass stopped the madness of the false prophet Balaam .

Having set up the ceremonial law using unclean animal an Ass, as those not redeemed by the lamb the redeemer. . Then the neck is broken to represent death. That would support gospel meaning of the ceremony law. To that law and the testimony Balaam if other speak not according to that law of faith .Then it is said there is no light as a lamp unto the feet .

Exodus 13:13 And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.

One more suggestion. In regard to Mathew 7 as those who preached the gospel and did many wonderful works but they went on their own power of false pride .Jesus said to them I never knew you . We are to test the spirits to see if they are of God inspired from above or earthly of men .

I believe it teaches us he can use a unbeliever to preach the gospel as easily as one who does believe. We are informed in Job 23 . He is of one mind and always does whatsoever his soul pleases he makes our hearts soft if they are being softened by the water of His word.

He can humble as easily as lifting us up. Just as In 2 Corinthian 4

2 Corinthian 45 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?
 
Have you never read in Scripture " the fire of God consumes me"

That does not apply to the passage you were talking about earlier.

Have YOU never read "so that you may learn not to go beyond what Scripture says?" And that those who do go beyond what Scriptures says "do not have God?"

You back yourself into a corner...
 
That does not apply to the passage you were talking about earlier.

Have YOU never read "so that you may learn not to go beyond what Scripture says?" And that those who do go beyond what Scriptures says "do not have God?"

You back yourself into a corner...
In your interpretation, you mean, that does not apply to the scripture that i spoke of.

You never did answer to all the lies people are taught . Neither confirm nor deny them.

Do you agree with the rapture theory, that there is a rapture before the return of Jesus.

Do you agree with the thinking Catholics are not Christians, and should be condemned.

Are you ok with taking the Mark of the Beast, Being someine who is saved , is it ok to take the Mark for the sake of others?
 
An example , the nonsense with the rapture before Christ's return. Its a lie. It is a trap by the devil. So many believe that crap. So great a delusion. Many will leave the Christian churches to the one world church because of it.

I would agree .Many do not rightfully divided the signified understating of the parable like that of Revelation 20 .The thousand years represent the last days which began when the veil was rent and the father gave words to Jesus the prophet .It is finished

Another lie . Getting the mark of the beast ok if you are saved.

Let me tell you, you get the Mark of the Beast , its a sentance to hell.

It is a sin against the Holy Spirit.

The Mark of the Beast is the sentence to hell, our suffering in these bodies of death.

The mark of Cain or the mark of God’s word is represented by the metaphoric number (666 natural unconverted mankind )It is law not subject to change . It applies If an man kills Cain the restless wanderer as one having no rest, not yoked with Christ as was Abel .

Cain suffered the addition or added labor. All the days of his life suffering the pangs of hell with no rest not yoked with Christ Something his own self said he could not bear. Christ makes our burn of sufferings lighter

Geneisis 15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Another lie , Catholics are not Christians

I would be careful how we hear the things of God . the things men can turn the things God upside down . If a person would follow their doctrines of men as law of the fathers that they call patron saints (oral traditions) to its conclusion. . it simply does despite the the fullness of grace the full price of our redemption .
 
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