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What if you die tonight?

After 32 years of study and teaching the scriptures, I will say that while I might have structured your presentation to sound more Texan but will, with glee, stanjd on your word, unto the death of this worn out 77 year old carcus. Bill is presenting opinions without verse and/or cyhapter. That form of scriptre runs straght into heresy and YHWH will, forever damn that form of unglorifying dscussion.
In your 32 years of study you never came across the term Temple of the Holy Spirit. Or never read in the Old Testament that we were created to be with God. Are you saying that God is Not eternal, how can we be with God if we are not Eternal with him. And what about those that are getting thrown into the Lake of Fire. You don't think that they are going to be there for eternity either.

Being created in the image of God does not mean that God is 6 ft tall with brown hair and blue eyes. It means that the image of God is within us and the image of God is a trinity. I think you have another 32 years to study yet LOL
 
In your 32 years of study you never came across the term Temple of the Holy Spirit. Or never read in the Old Testament that we were created to be with God. Are you saying that God is Not eternal, how can we be with God if we are not Eternal with him. And what about those that are getting thrown into the Lake of Fire. You don't think that they are going to be there for eternity either.

Being created in the image of God does not mean that God is 6 ft tall with brown hair and blue eyes. It means that the image of God is within us and the image of God is a trinity. I think you have another 32 years to study yet LOL
Ok, you tried to enrage me and failed. Once more you have stated opinions without the use of scripture address and that and your attempt to anger show that I must be dealing with a man of weak self-confidence. Your attack and attempts to belittle me are unbecoming intelligent men and are more appropriate in the Juke Joints I abandoned 32 years ago. I pray you not accuse me with outright lies again as you did in your first post to me, I said not one of those things and any can look at my post and see the truth. It is really bad form you have taken here, much like the Saturday night drunk looking to show his wife he can defend her.
 
Ok, you tried to enrage me and failed. Once more you have stated opinions without the use of scripture address and that and your attempt to anger show that I must be dealing with a man of weak self-confidence. Your attack and attempts to belittle me are unbecoming intelligent men and are more appropriate in the Juke Joints I abandoned 32 years ago. I pray you not accuse me with outright lies again as you did in your first post to me, I said not one of those things and any can look at my post and see the truth. It is really bad form you have taken here, much like the Saturday night drunk looking to show his wife he can defend her.
The difference between you and I, is that you need to know exactly the verse to actually understand that it's in the scripture. Whereas I can read a person's writing and recognize if it comes from scripture or not.

You say that you've studied the scripture for 32 years yet you do not know the scripture you couldn't tell me it by heart if you tried. Oh you might be able to quote a couple scripture verses here and there are things that you actually memorized. But the vast majority of the scripture you have not retained in your memory

Unfortunately this is also true with many Christians at this website that unless you actually list where the scripture is located at, one seems to be able to know that it is scripture that's being stated in the first place
 
Dear Brothers, @th1bill @Bill
Back into your neutral corners,
Let's stop making it personal in your replies.
Stick with the facts, or what you believe them to be, without at the same time making an attempt to denigrate each other!

I can give a time out to each of you but leave that as a last resort.

Let's apply some of that old age acquired wisdom that God has granted us to keep our replies to each other as brethren, in such a way that others may truly see how high, and how deep His love is even when we disagree.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
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The difference between you and I, is that you need to know exactly the verse to actually understand that it's in the scripture. Whereas I can read a person's writing and recognize if it comes from scripture or not.

You say that you've studied the scripture for 32 years yet you do not know the scripture you couldn't tell me it by heart if you tried. Oh you might be able to quote a couple scripture verses here and there are things that you actually memorized. But the vast majority of the scripture you have not retained in your memory

Unfortunately this is also true with many Christians at this website that unless you actually list where the scripture is located at, one seems to be able to know that it is scripture that's being stated in the first place
Bill. Christ4ever nailed both of us with truth. Let's calm down and act like Christ followers. After 32 years of reading to study and teaching I have learned not to choke people with quotes and/or addresses but to always supply addresses when required/requested and short of being YHWH, neither of us knows all of scripture and all of the multiple applications of the different passages. When anybody refuses a request for accurate documentation of a, then, questioned scriptural idea being presented it is a sure sign of a problem. We can do better than this.
 
What if you die tonight?
Game over.
You are either part of the first resurrection and have a confidence in your salvation through obedience and faithfulness to the gospel of salvation
or one is not part of this and must wait until the second resurrection for their judgement.

Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.

Hebrews 10:35 Therefore do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward.

1John 4:17 By this is love perfected with us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment, because as he is so also are we in this world.
 
If I knew FOR SURE I'd die tonight, I'd go to bed NOW, and get it over with. 80 years is a long time, and I've been ready for the last 60.
Dear Brother,
You'd be surprised at how many would miss you brother!!!
Makes you wonder how Abraham & Sarah dealt with it!!!
Much still to look forward to, if not here then there in Gloryland!!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus. Brotherly Hug!!!
YBIC
Nick
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If I knew FOR SURE I'd die tonight, I'd go to bed NOW, and get it over with. 80 years is a long time, and I've been ready for the last 60.
Seriously misunderstud, but proper attitude. I was not smart enough to be saved until just before my 45th birthday. But from that moment until the month I turn 78, I want t go home, the home I've never ever seen. I love my LORD and I want to hug Him.
 
Dear Brother,
You'd be surprised at how many would miss you brother!!!
Makes you wonder how Abraham & Sarah dealt with it!!!
Much still to look forward to, if not here then there in Gloryland!!!

With the Love of Christ Jesus. Brotherly Hug!!!
YBIC
Nick
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I'm not wanting to come off wrong but some of us have, both been to war, and have never been afraid to the point that we did not do things we longed for. I flew in an aircraft with a single nut between life and instant death. I repelled on a three eighths rope with creeps shooting at me and laughed at them. Bob is old enough that he has likely lived this life watching his buds die and is, like myself, wants to just now peace.
 
I'm not wanting to come off wrong but some of us have, both been to war, and have never been afraid to the point that we did not do things we longed for. I flew in an aircraft with a single nut between life and instant death. I repelled on a three eighths rope with creeps shooting at me and laughed at them. Bob is old enough that he has likely lived this life watching his buds die and is, like myself, wants to just now peace.
Dear Brother,
I may not be as old as you "Old Brothers" are, but age is irrelevant to knowing that this is not our home, and the desire to be with our Lord and Savior trumps all our life experiences.
You may have also been even closer to death at other times, then you realize, but for the Grace of God, whose purpose for you was "not yet". So, it is now, for you, Bob, me, and many others, irrespective of age. It just becomes harder, because as you've said, we've lost, and continue to see loved ones go before us. Also, this body doesn't do what it used to be able to do, our mind gets a little foggy, and isn't as clear as it used to be. Still, though I'd rather be with our Lord now, I most assuredly believe it will be on His appointed time when our work is done, that He will call us home! Can't wait until we who have been but words across a screen get to Gloryland and rejoice together!

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Well Abraham had another idea:idea: A young wife Name "Keturah"and had some more babies.
According to one view, Abraham remarried after the death of Sarah and had a total of three wives: Sarah, Hagar, and Keturah. :eyes:


Six Children
Gen. 26 lists the six children that Keturah bore to Abraham: Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak, and Shuah, to which the midrash applies the verse (Ps.

But Some have said she was "Hagar" who had "Ishmael" then She must have had been a very very young Girl when she had "ISMAEL" and then all those years later she had "6 more kids":eyes: I believe God gave him another "young Chick" to Crank up His motor! fired that old Boy up! that is most likely what killed Him! Dying in Full of Age. They will kill you! You can married one of Those Young women if You want to, You will have a Heart Attack or a Stroke":eyes:

Note: Abraham died 175 years old
Note: Sarah died 127 years old
Interesting times.


PloughBoy, Just small talk. PS, Stay Away From Those Young Girls.:eyes: They will make you have a Heart Attack and A Stroke at The Same Time! and cause you to walk with a limp! She will make you Call on "JESUS" :eyes:
 
For one thing-- Hagar was Sarah's handmaid not Abraham's wife. It was customary in those days that if a wife could not bear children that she could have her maidservent go into her husband to have children for her.

She did that in spite of God's promise to her and Abraham that they would have a baby of their own. She didn't believe that she would in fact have a baby at her age. So Ishmael was born through Hagar and Isaac was the son that God promised them.then..

And at some point after Sarah's death Abraham did remarry Keturah and they had six children together. There is no mention of her age. And you're sounding very crude so I won't continue with this post.
 
I meant that after Sarah died that Abraham got married to Keturah.and Hagar was not a wife .
 
For one thing-- Hagar was Sarah's handmaid not Abraham's wife. It was customary in those days that if a wife could not bear children that she could have her maidservent go into her husband to have children for her.

She did that in spite of God's promise to her and Abraham that they would have a baby of their own. She didn't believe that she would in fact have a baby at her age. So Ishmael was born through Hagar and Isaac was the son that God promised them.then..

And at some point after Sarah's death Abraham did remarry Keturah and they had six children together. There is no mention of her age. And you're sounding very crude so I won't continue with this post.
Humans alway has and believes in "Folk-Lore" for a personal gain. Always Hidden motives.

But GOD's Word has Relaid The Importance concerning His plan Despite of The man.

How is Hagar related to Abraham
Hagar is a biblical character in the book of Genesis. She has an important role as wife of Abram/Abraham and mother of Ishmael. As such, she is an important figure within Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. In Genesis 16, she is introduced as an Egyptian slave woman who belongs to Abram's wife Sarai, But Yet became A wife and so Rudely Treated and was Showed No Mercy where There was none to be Found, But GOD. And when you have not found Mercy and been Greatly Abused, And you and your Child has been Thrown in The Streets, I dare You To Called on "THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY" He Will send His ANGELS to See about you! "they that call upon The Lord will be Saved" I do don't care if You are A slave in the Streets and your Mistress Throws you Out and Your Child. .....Call Him, Call his name! whether you are a "SLAVE" , Egyptian, Arab. gentile or Jew, Call Him, whether a "Navajo', "Apache" or a "Cherokee' when they Abuse You "Call him" and Call Him By name; "JESUS" I know of many have Called on that Name, When men have Rape them, Rob them, beat them, Stolen from them and They gave them more, to The Thieves. and they never report any thing to The Police or "Sheriff's", I Have know in My Life True Christians That I could never match up too! Laying down their lives even for the unGodly!

and winning some to Christ even in these ways.:pensive: How can you lay down in the Lion's den and be eating alive, How can you stand there and be cut to pieces in The Name of JESUS. How can you be rape and still witness to your very Rapist in The Spirit of Love, witness about the grace of GOD.:pensive:

No, I am Not the same like people I know since 1979 three years after I Got "Born from Above" and went To "Bible College" of "The Reformed Faith" Calvinistic they were. I did not say they were "Calvinist" I said "The Reformed Faith and Calvinistic they were" not Calvinist.
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New King James Version
Abraham again Took A Wife, and her name was Keturah.
New American Standard Bible
Now Abraham took another wife, whose name was Keturah.



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I do Believe that God is not A fool and He knows The deceitfulness of "humanity" his Ignorance in always Proving "GOD" WORDS are False In any Way He Can. With all of Their "Religious and Three-card Monte Ways" and To Prove themselves Right.

Abram became Abraham and God Had it wrote down in The Book!
Sara became Sarah and GOD had it wrote Down in The Book!
Hagar name was Hagar and God had it wrote down in The BOOK!
Keturah name Was Keturah and GOD had it Wrote down in A
BOOK"

And for me "PloughBoy" it is Good enough for me. :pensive: And Religious "Fore-Lore" means Absolutely Nothing to me, I got The "66 Canons of Holy Scripture" and The rest I do not care. I got enough to do what I have to, In The Name of The LORD Sent By "THE GOD ALMIGHTY"veering not to The Left or The Right I GOT MY ORDERS::pensive:

And that voice is Still Echoing throughOut Time, and it found, a place upon my being, wrap up and folded, and Place a Creased upon my Soul.
With men things are Impossible But With GOD All things are Possible, even The Wrapping of My SOUL!

New American Standard Bible
Then a cloud formed, overshadowing them, and a voice came out of the cloud: “This is My beloved Son; listen to Him!”:pensive:

Listen, Can you Heared His Voice, Echoing out of the Chambers Of Life, Have he called your name! Can you Hear Him!

PloughBoy
 
Just take time to look at God's Word in book of Genesis. No folklore. Chapter 16, 17 and 18.

Hagar was never one of Abraham's wives.
 
Just take time to look at God's Word in book of Genesis. No folklore. Chapter 16, 17 and 18.

Hagar was never one of Abraham's wives.
you mean take A Look at a translation which is not the Word of God It is A Translation or of A translation of another Translation of The Word of God and Not The Very Words That GOD Spoke!
she was either a wife or slave "ohore" :eyes: you pick.
You can prove me wrong. and I proclaim I speak not "THE TRUTH" :pensive:
 
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you mean take A Look at a translation which is not the Word of God It is A Translation or of A translation of another Translation of The Word of God and Not The Very Words That GOD Spoke!
she was either a wife or slave "ohore" :eyes: you pick.
You can prove me wrong. and I proclaim I speak not "THE TRUTH" :pensive:

Genesis 16:3
New International Version
So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.

New Living Translation
So Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar the Egyptian servant and gave her to Abram as a wife. (This happened ten years after Abram had settled in the land of Canaan.)

English Standard Version
So, after Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her servant, and gave her to Abram her husband as a wife.

Berean Standard Bible
So after he had lived in Canaan for ten years, his wife Sarai took her Egyptian maidservant Hagar and gave her to Abram to be his wife.

King James Bible
And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.

New King James Version
Then Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar her maid, the Egyptian, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan.

New American Standard Bible
And so after Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Abram’s wife Sarai took Hagar the Egyptian, her slave woman, and gave her to her husband Abram as his wife.

NAS
 
Hagar was given to Abraham by Sarah his wife to act as a substitute 'wife' / concubine to bear children for him. Abraham did not have two wives at the same time.
 
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