What version Bible do you read?

[kiwimac]

Westcott and Hort were Godly men. I advise not reading the rubbish that passes for much criticism of non KJV bibles, I especially recommend binning anything written by Gail Riplinger.

 

[BibleBeliever7]

What are your sources saying that they were godly men? Also, tell me what Hort's thoughts on purgatory, prayers for the dead, worshipping Mary and sacraments were. Look into what they believed about the Trinity, Heaven and angels. I recommend looking up Gail Riplinger and looking at her own personal studies.

God bless your soul, kiwimac.

 

[bornagain11]

I like to study using kjv, nkjv, esv, nlt. But kjv is the one I read the most.....

 

[kiwimac]

What are your sources saying that they were godly men? Also, tell me what Hort's thoughts on purgatory, prayers for the dead, worshipping Mary and sacraments were. Look into what they believed about the Trinity, Heaven and angels. I recommend looking up Gail Riplinger and looking at her own personal studies.

God bless your soul, kiwimac.

I know a considerable amount about Westcott and Hort AND about Gail Riplinger and her lies. If you have sepcific comments to make I am happy to answer them.

 

[kiwimac]

I don't wish to derail this (or other) threads but can I simply say I am willing to dialogue on the subject of Westcott and Hort.

 

[Laudite]

Vaticanus? Is it odd that most of Revelation is missing since Revelation slams dunk the RCs? Older is nto necessarily better and all the so called questionable material can be found in versions, lectionaries and writings of the early fathers that are much older than the texts used by the MVs. It is chicanery and a new version of "yea hath God said" not scholarship. Wisdom of this world most assuredly but not the wisdom of God.

Whoa there now. The central tenet of textual criticism is 'older therefore better.' This is absolutely true. Why? You have an original text. Each copy, if done absolutely perfectly, is only as good as the original copy. Of course, when you transcribe thousands of pages, lots and lots of errors pop up. In a document the size of the bible, there are statistically insignificant chances of making no error at all ever- thus each 'generation' of copies is worse than the last, since each copy of a copy preserves the older copies errors, and adds more of its own.

 

[emily445455]

I only use the KJV.

 

[kiwimac]

The KJV is an acceptable translation although it can be misinterpreted simply because English has changed the meanings of some words since the 17th Century.

 

[emily445455]

The KJV is an acceptable translation although it can be misinterpreted simply because English has changed the meanings of some words since the 17th Century.

You get used to it after you use it for awhile. Plus there are concordances and study Bibles. I use a study Bible to help me understand the langauge

 

[Laudite]

You get used to it after you use it for awhile. Plus there are concordances and study Bibles. I use a study Bible to help me understand the langauge

You have to appreciate the KJV as a magnificent work of art. It, along with the Book of Common Prayer, represents a huge achievement of the english language that reverberates through our culture to this day. As a means of study, I use many different translations because it helps illuminate how any translation is flawed an inexact. Also, while definately the coolest, the KJV can't make any serious claims to being the most faithful to the original.

 

[emily445455]

You have to appreciate the KJV as a magnificent work of art. It, along with the Book of Common Prayer, represents a huge achievement of the english language that reverberates through our culture to this day. As a means of study, I use many different translations because it helps illuminate how any translation is flawed an inexact. Also, while definately the coolest, the KJV can't make any serious claims to being the most faithful to the original.

Oh it is a very magnificent book...but IMO, it's also the Word of God

 

[jiggyfly]

Oh it is a very magnificent book...but IMO, it's also the Word of God

In your opinion is it exclusively the word of God ?
In your opinion do you consider KJV to be rhema and or logos?

 

[charlottejo]

I read The New Oxford Annotated Bible With The Apocrypha expanded edition, Revised Standard Edition. It was the Bible that was required for school. I love it though because it has:


* General Introduction to both the OT and the NT with information regarding the literary divisions, language, text, and canon of each Testament.
* Each book has an introduction which deals with the composition, authorship, date and content.
* Each chapter of the Bible is supplied with annotations which explain literary, historical, geographical, archeological and theological matters in the text. There are also crossreferences to other passages of scripture.

It also has articles that provide information on:
* the use and understanding of the Bible
* modern approaches to Biblical Study
* Hebrew poetry
* literary forms in the Gospels
* the geography, history and archaeology of Biblical Lands
* tables of chronology, measures and weights
* the principal English versions of the Scriptures in the Tyndale-King James tradition

Last it has the Apochrypha - what some would consider the hidden books.

If you are wanting to know more about the Bible and the history of the books this is an excellent way to be taught the BIBLE!

 

[emily445455]

In your opinion is it exclusively the word of God ?
In your opinion do you consider KJV to be rhema and or logos?

I like how my pastor says it "Other versions contain the words of God, but the KJV is the Word of God"

Not sure what rhema or logos means...

 

[NewMex]

I love my NKJV, it was my first bible given to me when I was in High school. I love the translation. I read a lot from the NIV lately because a wallet size was given to me about a year ago and I have grown rather fond of this translation. I do enjoy comparing translation we also keep in the house the NLT and looking for a KJV. I have found the net bible from bible org website rather useful too. God bless.

 

[Laudite]

I like how my pastor says it "Other versions contain the words of God, but the KJV is the Word of God"

On what basis do you make this determination? Are you suggesting that God himself spoke the best translation of scripture into English into the minds of the men who wrote it? If so, that seems... perhaps not biblically justifiable.

 

[jiggyfly]

I like how my pastor says it "Other versions contain the words of God, but the KJV is the Word of God"

Not sure what rhema or logos means...

Wonder what people did before 1611?:shock: So would it be fair to assume that you just adopted the opinion of your pastor without much study of your own?

 

[NewMex]

I like how my pastor says it "Other versions contain the words of God, but the KJV is the Word of God"

Not sure what rhema or logos means...

I cant't help but wonder if your pastor is referring to the translation method; Word for word, Per thought, paraphrases etc...?

 

[kiwimac]

KJV-Onlyism is both heretical and cultic, it denies the Spirit's ability to speak to others through ANY Bible translation and often also denies the salvation of fellow Christians who believe differently.

 

[jiggyfly]

KJV-Onlyism is both heretical and cultic, it denies the Spirit's ability to speak to others through ANY Bible translation and often also denies the salvation of fellow Christians who believe differently.

Hallelujah and Hallelujah, oh and did I say Hallelujah!!!