Why does God send people to hell?

[Rhema]

I won't have to communicate back and just institute the determined R&R period for you to undertake.

Look deep inside your heart. WHY do you always have to threaten to ban people who disagree with YOU? (And are competent enough to prove that you're wrong?)

Seriously, dude. That's not the character of Christ.


@Chad
@Br. Bear

 

[Rhema]

Sadly, it is you who have wasted my time,

The waste of my time was in reference to your absurd claim that either Mary or Martha could also have been the author, when it's quite clear that the disciple in question, the author, was male. Here's what you had said:

Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.- John 11:1-5 KJV

By your own reasoning any of them could have been considered the author.

Indeed I do quote John 11.

Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.​

- John 11:5 KJV

Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.​

- John 11:3 KJV

Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.​

- John 21:20-24 KJV

The gender of the disciple whom Jesus loved and who was the author of the Gospel named John shouldn't have even been brought up. It perplexes me as to why you thought it was necessary to do so. All it tells me is that you really don't want to read my posts carefully and think about it. So what other purposes are causing you to engage in this discussion?

Rhema
Excuse me for not having the patience that you demand.

 

[th1bill]

Excuse me for not having the patience that you demand.

Jesus demands that Christians be imitators of Him and even as they nailed Him to the cross He was patient with them.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Why are you playing the fool here? For clearly in reading each account of the Passover Meal you know it is the telling of the last meal that Jesus partook with them prior to being arrested.

Who is the fool? The one who actually reads what is written? Or the one who ignores what is actually written?

The one who holds back the positions they hold in order to make a point.

If you had only stated beforehand that you believe that the only true Gospel is of John or that they are all lies, we would not be having this discussion. For I certainty would not have brought as evidence the other Gospels which refute the position you hold and believe to be true.

Sorry you are unable to tie the above sentences together to understand what I was saying.
Rephrase then. If you had made your position, you hold, clear, concerning the lies (or what you might call inaccuracies) of the other Gospels against the Gospel of John I would not have had this discussion with you. Adding: That you even say that they are different meals during different times makes no sense because each in the telling is a prelude to the arrest of Jesus. Simple if you're not looking to disprove the authencity of the writings.

If you had only stated beforehand that you believe that the only true Gospel is of John or that they are all lies, we would not be having this discussion.

And this is known as a false dilemma. You provide only two options, "the only true Gospel is that of John," and "they are are lies." NEITHER of which I believe.

You shall overcome brother. lol If you in reading what I wrote understood what I was saying then clearly it was no dilemma for you to reply to what was being said, which you usually do anyway. Unless of course if it paints you into a corner.

I believe that within the Gospel named John, the author identifies himself as Lazarus, although in a very oblique manner. You had held that this could not be true because Lazarus was not present in the account of the last supper as presented in Mat. Mark and Luke. I refuted this position by showing that the "last supper" in John could not be the same, as the supper as described in "John" happened BEFORE the Passover, and that the disciples who thought that Judas was sent out to purchase items FOR the Passover meal were not stupid enough to think this if they had just finished the Passover meal.

Why stop there in presenting my position? Did I not continue on and state why it could be so, in fact had to be so?
If they were different meals, but each one ends with Jesus being arrested it does not make for different Passovers being observed, but one specific one.

I note (as would all honest people) that the accounts in the New Testament Gospels differ - and differ substantially enough to realize that supper described in Mat. Mark and Luke was the Passover, but that recounted in John was not.

I agree the 4 Gospel accounts do differ, but not in the same way that you think they do. Since you already admit that what is described in John 13-18 is one conversation, then they leave to the garden where Jesus is arrested, you are to tell me that I should instead see it as being different meals at different times (Passovers) though they all lead to the garden and Jesus' arrest? So, if you see that as being dishonest I'm sorry. I see it as common sense and not overthinking it as you are.

Note: It never ceases to amaze me that you have no problem with saying "as would all honest people" or like comments to people you communicate with. Which reminds me that you did not provide me a number for the R&R that I believe would do both of us some good.

This is not the only discrepancy in "John." I provide another as an example:

You provide me a video to watch of someone wearing a "venom" t-shirt?

If you were truly objective, you'd of provided a video of one reasoning for its inclusion. lol

I would say that some manuscripts do have it, but you know that already and would make the point of the later dating of said documents.

For I certainty would not have brought as evidence the other Gospels which refute the position you hold and believe to be true.

The other gospels do not refute the "position" I hold (namely that the Gospel named John identifies its author). UNLESS one assumes that all four record the same Passover meal eaten by the disciples.

Honest people would acknowledge that Lazarus was not at the Passover Meal, but the 12 were and so could not have been the one identified as the one who Jesus loved. Which is the very point I am trying to show you.

I don't care what kind of emotional problems this triggers in you

Well, using trigger words will do that to even the most insensitive person, even you.
You are too used to arguing points and then belittling others at the same time, which is a debate tactic, which can be used to one's advantage, but is also hateful.
Do you love me?

supper was BEFORED the feast of the Passover.

Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;- John 13:1-2 KJV

Over a period of time, how many meals are there during the Passover?

If this makes no sense to you then do a little research on the Seder and Passover.

It really is more like we are seeing one event over a period of days, from 4 different perspectives.

P.S. The word "before" does not speak to a specific time period which could be a matter of minutes, hours, days.

Yes. Yes it does. The word "before" DOES speak to a specific time period. The time period is even stated.

before the feast of the passover, ... supper having ended.
Can you at least be honest about that?

So, I'm being dishonest? Tell me you don't use trigger words, and the devil is not a liar!

So, what is the time period? One meal covering 1 day, 2 days, etc. If my prior asking of you (above) to research the Seder/Passover does not open your eyes to what I am talking about in respect to time to a meal concept, I fear nothing will.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[Christ4Ever]

The waste of my time was in reference to your absurd claim that either Mary or Martha could also have been the author, when it's quite clear that the disciple in question, the author, was male. Here's what you had said:


Indeed I do quote John 11.

Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.​

- John 11:5 KJV

Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.​

- John 11:3 KJV

Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.​

- John 21:20-24 KJV

The gender of the disciple whom Jesus loved and who was the author of the Gospel named John shouldn't have even been brought up. It perplexes me as to why you thought it was necessary to do so. All it tells me is that you really don't want to read my posts carefully and think about it. So what other purposes are causing you to engage in this discussion?

Rhema
Excuse me for not having the patience that you demand.

The devil is a liar brother. I was just going by your own reasoning that you used in part that Larazus was the disciple that Jesus loved and not my own understanding which I don't agree with concerning the authorship of the Gospel of John and who the disciple that Jesus loved identified in the Passover.
For all I said was the following: (bold/underline added)

By your own reasoning any of them could have been considered the author.

Were they not also disciples, and loved of Jesus?
Or is that not true? but, but, but, but...

Want to waste some more of my time and your own? Go for it.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[Christ4Ever]

Look deep inside your heart. WHY do you always have to threaten to ban people who disagree with YOU? (And are competent enough to prove that you're wrong?)

Seriously, dude. That's not the character of Christ.


@Chad
@Br. Bear

Dear troubled Brother Rhema,
I am just trying to ease your pain.
Surely the R&R would do you good?

Oh, by the way I only mention banning in open forum to the knuckleheads that don't know when to leave well enough alone, and who create friction unnecessarily.

As far as my heart, I am not there yet, and by your words, neither are you. Psalm 51:10
I thought about using Philippians 4:7 amongst many other verses, but I could see you're not feeling at peace about this, while I am.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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[complete]

Hi thanks

Not a salvation issue more of. . . how we can hear God's Holy Spirit through parables, they are designed to enrich the understanding.

The signified tongue of prophecy using as a sign the temporal historical and must be mixed or compared to the unseen eternal.

In that way parables teach us how to walk by faith the unseen eternal things.

Very valuable recipe needed to rightly divide the parables. The invisible spiritual understnding hid from unbelievers designed for the household of faith. . Christ labor of love

2 Corinthians 4:18;While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

As many as denotes a parable is in view It is shown being used in other books

Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

Ecclesiastes 6:6Yea, though he live a thousand years twice told,yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The opening hermeneutics instruction. No only inspired but Signified it by his messenger again signify compare the temporal historical to the unseen eternal . Called Hidden manna in Rev 2:17 .

In that way it does not become a literal thousand years in the Revelation 20 parable

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

The metaphor "thousand" an unknown no need to reveal faith issue

'And He said unto them, "Unto you it is given
to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without,
all these things are done in parables:
That seeing they may see, and not perceive;
and hearing they may hear, and not understand;
lest at any time they should be converted,
and their sins should be forgiven them.'
(Mar 4:11-12)

Hello @Garee,

I cannot pretend to understand your approach to what is written in God's word: for I approach it quite differently;believing that it should be taken literally, except where obviously not; for the parables that exist are explained within their context, so that there can be no doubt as to the meaning intended, and no occasion for interpreting it in any other way, other than by what is written.

The parables that our Lord used, were also explained as being 'the mysteries of the Kingdom', and their meaning is not left open to personal interpretation. Parables were resorted to in the face of the rejection our Lord encountered, and were not intended to reveal, but to hide from the general public the truths that they held, because of unbelief, only the disciples were apprised of their meaning, for only they had, 'ears to hear', having faith to believe, and therefore were open to receive (Mark 4:11). Praise God!

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head,
Risen and glorified
And sat at God's right hand.
Chris

 

[Garee]

'And He said unto them, "Unto you it is given
to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without,
all these things are done in parables:
That seeing they may see, and not perceive;
and hearing they may hear, and not understand;
lest at any time they should be converted,
and their sins should be forgiven them.'
(Mar 4:11-12)

Hello @Garee,

I cannot pretend to understand your approach to what is written in God's word: for I approach it quite differently;believing that it should be taken literally, except where obviously not; for the parables that exist are explained within their context, so that there can be no doubt as to the meaning intended, and no occasion for interpreting it in any other way, other than by what is written.

The parables that our Lord used, were also explained as being 'the mysteries of the Kingdom', and their meaning is not left open to personal interpretation. Parables were resorted to in the face of the rejection our Lord encountered, and were not intended to reveal, but to hide from the general public the truths that they held, because of unbelief, only the disciples were apprised of their meaning, for only they had, 'ears to hear', having faith to believe, and therefore were open to receive (Mark 4:11). Praise God!

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head,
Risen and glorified
And sat at God's right hand.
Chris

Hi Thanks

I would offer. There can only be one approach to that which is written (sola scriptura)

It would seem parables have lost much of their value. Because of Charismatic issues outward sign gifts. Which I would think is Satan working with all lying power to deceive those who literalize the signified language of parables. The focus alone on the temporal historical. God calls fools

We are warned of the antichrists which is another teaching authority other than all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) False apostles bringing false prophecy. Oral tradition of dying mankind.

Seeing without "parables" the comparing or mixing of the temporal historical things seen (the written word). with the invisible eternal things not seen

The two tablets on Mount Siniah hewn by the hand or will of God (let there be) written by his finger on both sides with no room for the oral traditions of dying mankind.

Without parables the signified tongue of prophecy Christ spoke not.

Mankind has the literal understanding with no gospel rest. (Hebrew 4:1-2) The parable remains a mystery to the unredeemed world. Just as it remains a mystery to the father of lies the god of this world also having no gospel understanding coming from the parable. He has no idea as to the gospel plan.

Note. . . (RED) eternal invisible Christ

Note. . . (GREEN) born again believers

Note. . .(BLACK) unredeemed

Hebrews 4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

The mixing recipe below must be used. Again it does not change the historical value but does enrich like honey

2 Corinthians 4:1818 While we "look not" at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen (historical) are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

In that way the parables are designed to teach us how to walk by the labor of Christ's love or called a work of His "let there be" faithfulness

Both Mark 9 and Luke 9 two witnesses give good examples of the use of parables and how Christ hides the understnding from Satan. At the end of the series of parables in verse 55 he rebukes the apostles and reveals what manner of spirit they are of (the spirit of the world) no parables to enrich the understnding

2 Corinthians 10:7 Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

 

[JPPT1974]

If we believe in Christ we will be in eternity with Him and with others who have gone on before us.
If not then we will be forever separated in the pits of an everlasting fire.

 

[Jesua888]

The Bible says that God created hell for Satan and the wicked angels who rebelled against Him, but there are people in hell also (Matthew 25:41). Both angelic beings and human beings are in hell for the same reason, sin (Romans 6:23).

Because God is completely righteous and morally perfect (Psalm 18:30), He always does what is right—there is no “darkness” in God, not the smallest speck of imperfection (1 John 1:5). God Himself is the standard for what is right, good, and moral. If it were not for God being the standard of moral perfection, created beings would have nothing to measure themselves against. In other words, if God is perfectly righteous, then anything that falls short of said perfection is sinful, and every human being who has ever lived, since Adam’s fall from grace, has committed sin (Romans 3:23). Because Adam sinned, the entire human race now has a sinful nature (Romans 5:12). But people do not go to hell because of Adam’s sin; they go to hell because of their own sin, which they freely choose (James 1:13–16).

Since God is eternal, immutable, and infinite, and all sins are fundamentally against God, God has decreed the just punishment for sin must also be eternal (Matthew 25:46). There is another aspect to consider, which is that God also created people to live eternally. So when someone commits a sin against another person, the offended person has also been eternally wronged.

God, therefore, has deemed all who commit sin will go to hell because they have failed to meet His righteous standard; they have broken His Law of moral perfection. If God did not send people to hell for breaking His laws, it could be said that God is not just (Psalm 7:11). A good analogy is a court of law with a judge and a lawbreaker. A just judge will always convict the person who has been found guilty. If that judge did not pursue justice for the crime, he would not be a just judge (Deuteronomy 32:4).

However, the good news is that God is also merciful. In His rich mercy, He made a way for sinners to avoid the punishment of hell by trusting in the atoning work of His Son, Jesus Christ (Romans 5:9). For Christians, the penalty of sin has been removed and placed upon Christ on the cross (1 Peter 2:24). Because of the sacrifice of Christ, God is still just—the sin is punished—yet He is also merciful to all who believe.

article: Why does God send people to hell? | GotQuestions.org

"The Bible says that God created hell for Satan and the wicked angels who rebelled against Him, but there are people in hell also (Matthew 25:41). Both angelic beings and human beings are in hell for the same reason, sin (Romans 6:23)."

A question:
Did God not cast Satan and his Fallen Angels to Earth?
Could Earth be hell?
As I understand it, in End Times, Jesus will return for Judgement, and that is when Satan and his followers, will be cast into the fire for 1000 years - is this correct?

Thanks, Linda

 

[Garee]

"The Bible says that God created hell for Satan and the wicked angels who rebelled against Him, but there are people in hell also (Matthew 25:41). Both angelic beings and human beings are in hell for the same reason, sin (Romans 6:23)."

A question:
Did God not cast Satan and his Fallen Angels to Earth?
Could Earth be hell?
As I understand it, in End Times, Jesus will return for Judgement, and that is when Satan and his followers, will be cast into the fire for 1000 years - is this correct?

Thanks, Linda

Hell is the suffering we receive living in the bodies of death. The appointment to die once.

Lucifer the Spirit of God sent to protect the glory of God's creation. Lucifer usurped that authority as if the creation was of his own self.

Satan is the god of this world system.

There is no invisible creation called angels

 

[Jesua888]

Hell is the suffering we receive living in the bodies of death. The appointment to die once.

Lucifer the Spirit of God sent to protect the glory of God's creation. Lucifer usurped that authority as if the creation was of his own self.

Satan is the god of this world system.

There is no invisible creation called angels

This is some information that I am finding on the topic:

"The Bible mentions Satan's fall from heaven in several passages. Revelation 12 describes a war in heaven where Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, who is identified as Satan, and his angels. After the battle, Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven. Additionally, Luke 10 records Jesus saying, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." These verses indicate that God cast Satan and his angels down to the earth"

This is what I remember about Satan and his angels ("the dragon"), they were cast out of heaven, I thought to Earth?

 

[Christ4Ever]

Dear Sister Linda, @Moon888
I found a tissue in a Bible I just bought as a gift to someone in the ministry, which had a title of "Rise and fall of Satan". Here are few of the verses that were on it. Whether it helps or not I do not know.

And He said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Luke 10:18 NKJV

"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [How] you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! 13 For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.' 15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. 16 "Those who see you will gaze at you, [And] consider you, [saying]: '[Is] this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms, 17 Who made the world as a wilderness And destroyed its cities, [Who] did not open the house of his prisoners?' Isaiah 14:12-17 NKJV

And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Revelation 12:7-9 NKJV

Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, Hebrews 2:14 NKJV

He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8 NKJV

The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet [are]. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Revelation 20:10 NKJV

I was going to throw it away, but did not, and now I was reminded of it, and felt moved to share it here with you since you touched on the subject. I hope it helps.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Garee]

This is some information that I am finding on the topic:

"The Bible mentions Satan's fall from heaven in several passages. Revelation 12 describes a war in heaven where Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, who is identified as Satan, and his angels. After the battle, Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven. Additionally, Luke 10 records Jesus saying, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." These verses indicate that God cast Satan and his angels down to the earth"

This is what I remember about Satan and his angels ("the dragon"), they were cast out of heaven, I thought to Earth?

No such invisible creation called an angel a fake word. Coined in the 10th century to give the illusion there is more than one invisible God that mankind can commune with. Some today call the many gods patron saints passed on from the Pharisees with Sadducees. The sign and wonder seekers. . the ones that made Jesus into a circus seal "do your magic work a miracle" the when we see with our own eyes then we will believe for a half a second

Believers have prophecy to the end of time no need for sign to wonder after. None were given

Satan the legion as the one spirit of lies that works in many antichrists.

Antichrists which is another teaching authority other that the sola scripture the living abiding word of our Holy Father. False apostles, false prophecy

Anti-Christs false apostles preaching oral traditions of dying mankind. Attempting to seduce the believer that they do so need dying mankind to teach.

1 John2:18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist (Satan) shall come, even now are there many antichrists;(false teachers) whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 2:26These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Peter is used to demonstrate the lying power of the Spirit of the antichrists like that of Peter Peter rebukking the unesen Holy Father forbidding Jes the Son of man from doing the etersnal will of the Holy Father.

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man Jesus .

Mathew 16:22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

 

[th1bill]

Hell is the suffering we receive living in the bodies of death. The appointment to die once.

Lucifer the Spirit of God sent to protect the glory of God's creation. Lucifer usurped that authority as if the creation was of his own self.

Satan is the god of this world system.

There is no invisible creation called angels

You use your own authority to profess this false theory. I say theory because it is not based on scripture.

 

[Deep Seeker]

God (Jehovah Elohim) does not send anyone to what is called, Hell ! Each One has a choice; that choice of what path to walk is up to each individual.
Did God choose for Adam, or Eve, to do as They did? Or did They choose Their own path?

The Program is: Here are The Rules. You chose the Path!

 

[Deep Seeker]

To many Today, profess to be what is called, A Christian.
What is A Christian?
How about Being a Believer in what has been written by The Elohim?

Oh, Who are The Elohim?? What about: "Let US create? US is a plural personal pronoun, not a single personal pronoun !

 

[Deep Seeker]

What about, Figures Of Speech. I have seen many comments of Bible text. However, it appears that many of These Commets have been posted using references to various Scriptures of The Bible, out of context!
aid.
For example. What is darkness? It said that darkness is; a metaphore. What about; Figures Of Speech?

Figures of speech are used extensively in The Bible. They are when one thing is used, to bring more attention to another thing being said Figures of speech are not, literal facts!

for example: The Trees in The Garden, in Genesis. Were They literal trees? No, indeed They were not. They were people! Trees being the figure of speech used for Them. Why? Because The People of Genesis were very earth (Garden) in those days; and after that.

Indeed: Many giants have been found buried in This Earth!

The lack of true study has led to much misenturpretation of scriptures. This is what leads to so many false assumptions pertaining to The Scirptures. This is sad, but so very true.

There was in earlier days a TV Detective Program where the Detective would always say: "The facts, just the facts." How very true!

This One has been studying the Bible Scriptures for over 70 years.

The Bible says that God created hell for Satan and the wicked angels who rebelled against Him, but there are people in hell also (Matthew 25:41). Both angelic beings and human beings are in hell for the same reason, sin (Romans 6:23).

Because God is completely righteous and morally perfect (Psalm 18:30), He always does what is right—there is no “darkness” in God, not the smallest speck of imperfection (1 John 1:5). God Himself is the standard for what is right, good, and moral. If it were not for God being the standard of moral perfection, created beings would have nothing to measure themselves against. In other words, if God is perfectly righteous, then anything that falls short of said perfection is sinful, and every human being who has ever lived, since Adam’s fall from grace, has committed sin (Romans 3:23). Because Adam sinned, the entire human race now has a sinful nature (Romans 5:12). But people do not go to hell because of Adam’s sin; they go to hell because of their own sin, which they freely choose (James 1:13–16).

Since God is eternal, immutable, and infinite, and all sins are fundamentally against God, God has decreed the just punishment for sin must also be eternal (Matthew 25:46). There is another aspect to consider, which is that God also created people to live eternally. So when someone commits a sin against another person, the offended person has also been eternally wronged.

God, therefore, has deemed all who commit sin will go to hell because they have failed to meet His righteous standard; they have broken His Law of moral perfection. If God did not send people to hell for breaking His laws, it could be said that God is not just (Psalm 7:11). A good analogy is a court of law with a judge and a lawbreaker. A just judge will always convict the person who has been found guilty. If that judge did not pursue justice for the crime, he would not be a just judge (Deuteronomy 32:4).

However, the good news is that God is also merciful. In His rich mercy, He made a way for sinners to avoid the punishment of hell by trusting in the atoning work of His Son, Jesus Christ (Romans 5:9). For Christians, the penalty of sin has been removed and placed upon Christ on the cross (1 Peter 2:24). Because of the sacrifice of Christ, God is still just—the sin is punished—yet He is also merciful to all who believe.

article: Why does God send people to hell? | GotQuestions.org

 

[Deep Seeker]

I am so disappointed in what I have seem in various rooms which claim to be Bible Study rooms!

Many post messages which are just normal repeats. Very few have serious in depth helps. Of course, this is only My opinion.
I give the following so that whosoever reads, will have a better idea of My back ground; and why I state what I state.

I have since I was a very young man; maybe 12-13 years of aging; that I began to seek The Understanding of Who, and what, God is. Thanks be to The Spirit of God, I was given knowledge, and understanding of The Bible scriptures over the years of My studies. These studies still continue at my age (88).

As a side note, I give an example of when I began to seek God. I once ask My mother: "What time of The Day was I born? She replied: "Early in the morning, just before daylight. Then She added: "It seemed as thought You could not wait to get out.

This did not register to Me until many years latter; when I began to do My Bible studies! Now I Get It ! ! I could not wait to get out of The Darkness, into The Light !

I pray that This short Message be of value to Those seeking to understand Their walk. DEEPSEEKER

 

[Christ4Ever]

I am so disappointed in what I have seem in various rooms which claim to be Bible Study rooms!

Many post messages which are just normal repeats. Very few have serious in depth helps. Of course, this is only My opinion.
I give the following so that whosoever reads, will have a better idea of My back ground; and why I state what I state.

I have since I was a very young man; maybe 12-13 years of aging; that I began to seek The Understanding of Who, and what, God is. Thanks be to The Spirit of God, I was given knowledge, and understanding of The Bible scriptures over the years of My studies. These studies still continue at my age (88).

As a side note, I give an example of when I began to seek God. I once ask My mother: "What time of The Day was I born? She replied: "Early in the morning, just before daylight. Then She added: "It seemed as thought You could not wait to get out.

This did not register to Me until many years latter; when I began to do My Bible studies! Now I Get It ! ! I could not wait to get out of The Darkness, into The Light !

I pray that This short Message be of value to Those seeking to understand Their walk. DEEPSEEKER

Dear Brother,
There are pre-existing threads in different forums, that when you find them, can be brought forward by adding another post. Finding them that you believe might be worth the effort, might take time to find. At the top of each page there is a "search forums" function that you look to for the finding of topics & even posters that would interest you. However, when searching it is easier to use singular words instead of multiple ones to have results displayed.

You are a little up there in age, which might create a different level of "Deep Seeking" then what others may be looking for. Being a spry (comfortable in a rocker) 69 years old myself, I find it difficult to imagine 88. lol

If you send me a Private Message (PM) I could probably guide you specific individuals who might be open to going deep into God's Word, within various degrees depending on the subject matter/topic.

Anyway, I hope you find what you are looking for brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator/YBIC
Nick
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