Why is it getting to be So Hard for Us as a “Body” to Warn People Of The Wrath That is To Come to be

[God's Truth]

Why would it be a lie ?Don' t you offer your own private interpretation as a personal commentary of his interpretation the Bible like any human .

No.

What kind of a warning ?

You don't know Jesus warns us?

How would you know when you have sinned and can return or repent .? Blood pressure? head ache? pulse rate?

Can you explain that better?

 

[PloughBoy]

Joel 2:1
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;

 

[Bill]

Joel 2:1
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;

It really is too

 

[God's Truth]

It really is too

You guys like preaching against me who preaches that we are to repent of our sins.


Luke 3:7 Then John said to the crowds coming out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 3:8 Therefore produce fruit worthy of repentance.

 

[Garee]

No.

Do you know the difference from a private interpretation And God's interpretation the Bible ?

You don't know Jesus warns us?

He gives us many different kinds of warnings . Which one are you referring to? Can you post the verse that you think supports your conclusion.

Can you explain that better?

How do you you know you have sinned to the point where you cannot repent and you lose your salvation . Does it take higher blood pressure or a head ache . or do you develop a rash? What are the symptoms of losing ones salvation?

 

[Garee]

You guys like preaching against me who preaches that we are to repent of our sins.


Luke 3:7 Then John said to the crowds coming out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 3:8 Therefore produce fruit worthy of repentance.

Again repent before one loses their salvation? Will a time come when no repenting daily is necessary ?

 

[Bill]

You guys like preaching against me who preaches that we are to repent of our sins.


Luke 3:7 Then John said to the crowds coming out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 3:8 Therefore produce fruit worthy of repentance.

I dont know what you are talking about ? Who is preaching against you . Wasn't even talking to you .

I was agreeing ith Plowboys comment . Joel 2:1 for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand.

And my comment " it really is to".

The Day of the Lord is coming , who can stand against it

 

[God's Truth]

He gives us many different kinds of warnings . Which one are you referring to? Can you post the verse that you think supports your conclusion.

How do you you know you have sinned to the point where you cannot repent and you lose your salvation . Does it take higher blood pressure or a head ache . or do you develop a rash? What are the symptoms of losing ones salvation?

That is an interesting thought. Well, some sins do give physical illness.

Here are warnings from Jesus:

People can fall away from Jesus see Galatians 5:4; 1 Corinthians 10:12; 2 Peter 3:17. We are warned not to drift away, Hebrews 2:1, not to draw back, Hebrews 10:38; to hold on and stand firm, Hebrews 3:14, 1 Corinthians 15:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15. We are told how not to fall, 2 Peter 1:10, how not to be hardened, Hebrews 3:8,13.

God can throw people out, Matthew 22:13, blot people out, Exodus 32:32-33, remove your lampstand, Revelation 2:5, sign you a place with unbelievers, Luke 12:46, and cut you off, Romans 11:19-21. We can become defiled, Hebrews 12:15. Our lamps can burn out, Matthew 25:8. We can cause ourselves to have to have Christ formed in us again, Galatians 4:19.

We are told how to remain in Jesus, John 6:56, and if we do Jesus will remain in us, John 15:4. Jesus tells us of the good if we remain in him, John 15:5, and of the bad when we do not, John 15:6. Jesus exhorts us to remain in him, John 15:9, 10, Acts 14:22, and 1 John 2:24.

 

[God's Truth]

Again repent before one loses their salvation? Will a time come when no repenting daily is necessary ?

You go against repenting to get saved and I gave you scripture where John the baptizer calls those people vipers.

That isn't enough to convince you that to repent of our sins to get saved?

 

[God's Truth]

I dont know what you are talking about ? Who is preaching against you . Wasn't even talking to you .

I was agreeing ith Plowboys comment .

Ploughboy goes against me and is a Calvinist.

 

[Br. Bear]

Is there any connection between repentance and belief

or

is there any connection between sin and unbelief?

 

[God's Truth]

Is there any connection between repentance and belief

There is a teaching out there that says to repent means to believe in Jesus.

However, we have to believe that we have to repent of our sins to Jesus.

I know many people who believe in Jesus and have not repented of their sins.

or

is there any connection between sin and unbelief?

A person who sins could be a believer, but they must repent.
A person who does not believe and obey Jesus is sinning.

 

[Garee]

You go against repenting to get saved and I gave you scripture where John the baptizer calls those people vipers.

That isn't enough to convince you that to repent of our sins to get saved?

That would not be enough to convince any one that actually studies the word .

No man can turn God . Hey look I am saving myself .

Did you forget the law of repentance ( Surely after that I was turned, I repented?

Who turned him?

First if we hear his voice he can turn us and then after he does the first work of turning us then we can repent . Can't save your own self ? That just common biblical sense

Jeremiah 31:18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the Lord my Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

 

[Garee]

That is an interesting thought. Well, some sins do give physical illness.

Here are warnings from Jesus:

People can fall away from Jesus see Galatians 5:4; 1 Corinthians 10:12; 2 Peter 3:17. We are warned not to drift away, Hebrews 2:1, not to draw back, Hebrews 10:38; to hold on and stand firm, Hebrews 3:14, 1 Corinthians 15:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15. We are told how not to fall, 2 Peter 1:10, how not to be hardened, Hebrews 3:8,13.

God can throw people out, Matthew 22:13, blot people out, Exodus 32:32-33, remove your lampstand, Revelation 2:5, sign you a place with unbelievers, Luke 12:46, and cut you off, Romans 11:19-21. We can become defiled, Hebrews 12:15. Our lamps can burn out, Matthew 25:8. We can cause ourselves to have to have Christ formed in us again, Galatians 4:19.

We are told how to remain in Jesus, John 6:56, and if we do Jesus will remain in us, John 15:4. Jesus tells us of the good if we remain in him, John 15:5, and of the bad when we do not, John 15:6. Jesus exhorts us to remain in him, John 15:9, 10, Acts 14:22, and 1 John 2:24.

There is not verse that says once a person is saved by God from heaven and is given a new born again spirit .That somehow they cam lose the free gift of God , which again is not of any work we could do as a law. No glorying in dead dying flesh .


We can look at the first verse you have taken out of context . iI speaks against trying to make your self right before God who is of one mind and always does whatsoever His soul pleases No law ( I did it. . it proves it)

Galatians 5:4 For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.​

Can you see that in trying (I did it my way) they are cut off

The second verse you offers confirm the first .

2 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.


Below is a verse that shows once saved always saved .It speaks of our confidence we have in Christ coming from Him . Not the confidence you say of your own self .

learn what it means to walk by faith Christ's confidence working in us .)

Philippian 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Who is your confidence today ? . . Your own self

 

[God's Truth]

That would not be enough to convince any one that actually studies the word .

Why?
How can anyone go against any scripture of God's that is so clear?
Think about that some more.
You are going against a clear explanation about repenting to get saved from the wrath.

No man can turn God . Hey look I am saving myself .

Of course we can turn to God. Give one scripture that says we can't. You believe in man's teachings and Jesus says that makes you nullify God's Truth.

I already gave you scriptures that TELL US TO SAVE OURSELVES by obeying God.

Why don't you believe the scriptures?

Did you forget the law of repentance ( Surely after that I was turned, I repented?

Who turned him?

First if we hear his voice he can turn us and then after he does the first work of turning us then we can repent . Can't save your own self ? That just common biblical sense

Jeremiah 31:18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the Lord my Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.

I keep explaining that scripture to you, it is about the Israelites WHO BELONG TO GOD already but started sinning and then were disciplined with bad things happening to them so they repented and turned back to God.

 

[God's Truth]

There is not verse that says once a person is saved by God from heaven and is given a new born again spirit .

Being born again happens after we crucify ourselves with Jesus to sin, and promise to live to please him, we repent of our sins and have faith that Jesus' blood washes us clean. We are at that time born again when we receive the Holy Spirit. We don't have any sins, we are sinless like a new born baby. We then live up to that by living our lives obeying Jesus and training ourselves.

That somehow they cam lose the free gift of God , which again is not of any work we could do as a law. No glorying in dead dying flesh .

Jesus warns us for a reason. Your insults about the flesh are some kind of weird teaching, for the scriptures only speak against the flesh of humans who sin with their flesh.

We can look at the first verse you have taken out of context . iI speaks against trying to make your self right before God who is of one mind and always does whatsoever His soul pleases No law ( I did it. . it proves it)

Galatians 5:4 For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.​

Can you see that in trying (I did it my way) they are cut off

No such thing what you are saying.

You don't even know that the Jews had to do the purifying works themselves before Jesus.

It is a Calvin and Luther sin and detriment to their teaching, and that is that they fail to recognize the Jews and the old law works that are the purification works, and, they misunderstand Paul about not of works.

The second verse you offers confirm the first .

2 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.


Below is a verse that shows once saved always saved .It speaks of our confidence we have in Christ coming from Him . Not the confidence you say of your own self .

learn what it means to walk by faith Christ's confidence working in us .)

Philippian 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Who is your confidence today ? . . Your own self

I have faith in everything Jesus says.

Go to my thread about eating Jesus.

 

[Garee]

Being born again happens after we crucify ourselves with Jesus to sin, and promise to live to please him, we repent of our sins and have faith that Jesus' blood washes us clean. We are at that time born again when we receive the Holy Spirit. We don't have any sins, we are sinless like a new born baby. We then live up to that by living our lives obeying Jesus and training ourselves.

You informed you of that (we crucify ourselves with Jesus) ? After hearing the first work of God working in us to both hear his understanding and empower us power creatures Christin living in a dying body of death .

Did you create a new spirit and new born again heart that will never die .

How did you manage that ?.Just imagine ?


Christ the Faithfull Creator always does the first works ."Let there be" and "it" was Good (the law of faith)

Jesus warns us for a reason. Your insults about the flesh are some kind of weird teaching, for the scriptures only speak against the flesh of humans who sin with their flesh.

yes the reason salvation is not of our own selves .It is God who works in us to reveal His will and empower us to finish It to His good pleasure .No man can save themselves or keep themself saved

I have faith in everything Jesus says.

Go to my thread about eating Jesus.

You have His faith as understanding or that of your own human faith , your conscience. A mere judgement hall one moment accuser the next excuser. God is greater than that. He knows all things .

 

[God's Truth]

You informed you of that (we crucify ourselves with Jesus) ? After hearing the first work of God working in us to both hear his understanding and empower us power creatures Christin living in a dying body of death .

We have to obey. Why are the tax collectors and prostitutes entering before you?

 

[Garee]

We have to obey. Why are the tax collectors and prostitutes entering before you?

Now you are getting it we have to hear the voice of understanding before we obey it . God doing ther first works giving new born again life

Who said tax collectors and prostitutes enter before me ?

 

[God's Truth]

Now you are getting it we have to hear the voice of understanding before we obey it . God doing ther first works giving new born again life

We do not get understanding before we obey. God does not give anyone new born again life without their repenting/dying to the sins of the world.

Who said tax collectors and prostitutes enter before me ?

So you did what the tax collectors and prostitutes did to enter?