Why Jesus could not condemn the Woman who was caught in the very act of adultery?

[Garee]

I would offer another set of eyes or ears as a personal opinion. a different foundation from the beginning. Same outcome that does not take away from the simplicity of the gospel the mysterious wonderful work of God.

The entrance of His word that works in us bring light .Just a reminder .when jesu spoke to nicodemus one that sought after signs towonder after .when he reveald the greatest possible miracle jesus loving ly commanded him to marvel or wonder not . Wondering is not believing prophecy its wondering. We should be careful on how we hear or say we do .The light of his word is our safe path

Again we must look to the foundation of the doctrine of the sign or mark . In that way like the proverbs amoral parable . . we are to buy the truth of the gospel and not sell it . God can sent a famine for the unseen hearing of it .. the hearing of faith his working in us.

Physical needs are secondary he will come like thief in the night leaving the same way in the twinkling of the eye .We must continue to walk by faith (the unseen power of the gospel)

Remember no sign other than the sign of times was given . Jesus said its a faithless generation that seeks after a sign rather than prophecy as it is written (sola scriptura)

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

In that way we can have a hope that we do not sell the gospel short of its power that work in us.

His name.(singular) .. not names (plural) His name (singular is made up of numbers (plural) is "six hundred and sixty-six". Mankind a beast of the fields created on day six.( singular)

Three is used to denote the end of a matter throughout the Bible .

Natural unconverted mankind . Faithless Cain was used to represent the sufferings burden as a increased load thinking it was to much for Cain alone to bear. .

Unlike Abel his born again brother in whom the lord had favor or grace on. Abel yoked with Christ made the burden was lighter and included a living hope beyond the grave of a new incorruptible body .

All believers as son of God die not receiving it . It will come on the last day under the Sun an unknow .God desires we walk by faith .His eternal kingdom comes not by observing the temporal .

The sign.. .mark of God 's word or the letter of the law sufferings unto death .

The mark God's word as a sign (what God says comes to pass) His word does not go without effecting his promise. . the law of faith the power to believe the things not seen ,

Let there be and there was .The law and testimony one work. . The promise as a sign if any take justice into their own hands and murder Cain they will surfer the same not yoked with our mighty God becoming a restless vagabond wandering looking back over his shoulder .

Note . . .(PURPLE) my adition to continue a point

Geneisis 4: 12-15 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark (His word will come to pass) .upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

 

[B-A-C]

I would offer another set of eyes or ears as a personal opinion.

I think too often, too many offer their "personal opinion" in these matters. Rather than scripture.
And the scarce scriptures that are offered... usually have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

 

[th1bill]

I think too often, too many offer their "personal opinion" in these matters. Rather than scripture.
And the scarce scriptures that are offered... usually have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You are, of course, correct. These lazy bums, of whom we are residing with, do not have 15 minutes a day to read the Word of YHWH. I have spent over thirty years studying the Word and have been accused of being a schooled theologian. That is, of course, foolishness. I finished the Eighth Grade at seventeen and took my GED Test in the Army.

I, with the help of Ruah, do my best to live the scriptural description of a Holy Life, meaning my answers are, always, close to what Scripture says or are quotes with Scripture Addresses. So it is that I have been called a hypocrite and a great assortment of other names by folks that do not Church with me. People, today, do not want anything to do with being Indwelt by Ruah.

 

[Garee]

I think too often, too many offer their "personal opinion" in these matters. Rather than scripture.
And the scarce scriptures that are offered... usually have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

We offer our personal or private interpretation of what we think sola scriptura teaches . His interpretation is the foundation or law .

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

We offer our personal or private interpretation of what we think sola scriptura teaches . His interpretation is the foundation or law .

1 We have no need to interpret the Word...It's in English already.
2 We have no need to leave the Holy Spirit out of our reading/ studying of the Word...
a He is the Word
b HE is our teacher
3 Anybody who reads the Word without the leading of the Holy Spirit, without Him opening it to us is a fool....You cannot read the Word and understand it without HIM

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

1 We have no need to interpret the Word...It's in English already.
2 We have no need to leave the Holy Spirit out of our reading/ studying of the Word...
a He is the Word
b HE is our teacher
3 Anybody who reads the Word without the leading of the Holy Spirit, without Him opening it to us is a fool....You cannot read the Word and understand it without HIM

I honestly do not understand why Christians do not want to rely on the Holy Spirit to teach them...but prefer to learn on their own or by the teaching of man. That's insanity to be frank.

 

[joestue]

I honestly do not understand why Christians do not want to rely on the Holy Spirit to teach them...but prefer to learn on their own or by the teaching of man. That's insanity to be frank.

I think they are so afraid of being right, or wrong, that they lash out at whoever disagrees, or even agrees with them.

 

[Garee]

1 We have no need to interpret the Word...It's in English already.
2 We have no need to leave the Holy Spirit out of our reading/ studying of the Word...
a He is the Word
b HE is our teacher
3 Anybody who reads the Word without the leading of the Holy Spirit, without Him opening it to us is a fool....You cannot read the Word and understand it without HIM

His understanding is what we search for. No matter what language it is writen in .

He is he is the word

He is the teacher

Who said anything about leaving out the Holy Spirit the teacher guide and comforter out?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

His understanding is what we search for. No matter what language it is writen in .

He is he is the word

He is the teacher

Who said anything about leaving out the Holy Spirit the teacher guide and comforter out?

Sir...The junk that gets shared shows that the effort is all intellectual and not spiritual

 

[Garee]

Sir...The junk that gets shared shows that the effort is all intellectual and not spiritual

By junk ? What junk are you speaking of?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

By junk ? What junk are you speaking of?

I'm speaking of 'stuff' many here pass off as Word knowledge and intelligent thinking. Many here spout total nonsense and ecpect it to be enlightening to others....but that junk only drags people down. Saying this is liable to get me a smack but hey...someone has to say it.

 

[Bill]

I'm speaking of 'stuff' many here pass off as Word knowledge and intelligent thinking. Many here spout total nonsense and ecpect it to be enlightening to others....but that junk only drags people down. Saying this is liable to get me a smack but hey...someone has to say it.

The insperation of the Holy Spirit is shown in many ways.

If we do not include the teachings we find in Scripture after the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit, and base everything on what was Written at the time, how could anyone ever believe to have faith.

Remember, the ' Bible ' that everyone enjoys today was not written until the 3rd century .

So what did the early Christians base thier faith on. No " bibles " to lean on as a crutch to thier faith, like so many here do.

They had true faith. And it was in the Holy Spirit ( i. E. GOD ) they put thier faith into.

They did as Elijah had done, putting thier faith into that tiny whispering wind.

The Bible was never ment to be the end all. Even Jesus stated this many times ( something the " We follow the Bible " crowd ) really never pay attention to.

Yes many of you never bother to do anything Jesus asks of you, but you still will scream to the mountain tops , "Jesus is my Lord and Shepard".

If it wasnt so sad i would laugh

Let's take a few notes.

Jesus talks about the King, the Judgement. And there will be those who say " but Lord, we cast out demons in your name. " And the King responds, " I never knew you"

Now didnt Jesus say, a house divided against itself can not stand. Meaning, Satan can not cast out Satan. In other words, the man states that he cast out demons in the name of Jesus. And to be able to cast them out, he would have had to been in the Lord. And now coming to the King for Judgement, is cast out. So he did something after casting out demons and before death that God does not forgive.

This is part of the proof the Once Saved Always Saved crowd is neglecting. That thinking is not scriptural.

I sometimes think that this story Jesus tells is talking about Judas. Because he too cast out demons and healed people in Jesus name. And his name was written in Heaven. It was after his name was written in Heaven that he betrayed Jesus, and threw away his salvation.

So you see, there are many things that are in the very scripture we all read. But it is you who only read what fits your form of faith.

Jesus states very clearly, others will come and do even greater things than He has done. So when you dont find it in the scripture, so what. Use the Gift of Discernment, find God's peace in your heart. There will be many things that will take place in the future that are not found in the Bible. The Bible is only a guide.

Doesnt Jesus always say, " i am the Corner Stone" if Jesus is the Word, the Whole Bible is the Word. Then He is only the Corner Stone of who you are. And you are to build your life in Faith and Love. You are to build up the Temple of God. The Bible can not be the Temple, as it remains the Corner Stone. Jesus tells us to recieve the Holy Spirit.

Look at the Apostles, how it changed them.

 

[Bill]

I'm speaking of 'stuff' many here pass off as Word knowledge and intelligent thinking. Many here spout total nonsense and ecpect it to be enlightening to others....but that junk only drags people down. Saying this is liable to get me a smack but hey...someone has to say it.

I wasnt smacking you btw, just responding to the others

 

[Bill]

Bill - my question is How did you baptize another person in the Holy Spirit? Because the Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit comes to indwell a new believer st the moment of their salvation. And the only other baptism is that of by immersion which is what can be seen by others. So How did You do something that only the Holy Spirit does.

And the rapture will take place as is talked about in 1st Thessalonians 4: 16 -18. And then there is 1 Corinthians 15:51 - 53

The mark of the beast is talked about in book of Revelation : 13: 18. And is mentioned again in chapter 14: 9-10.

The second coming is talked about in Zachariah 14:4. Jesus Christ will come back to earth and stand on the Mt of Olives. He will reign on this Earth for 1,000 yrs. Righteous judgement. During that time, Satan will be locked away so that he can't mess with us.

It was easy, God told me to Baptise him, and i laid my hands on his shoulders.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I wasnt smacking you btw, just responding to the others

I know that Bill...I'm just getting grouchier as I near my end.

 

[Garee]

It was easy, God told me to Baptise him, and i laid my hands on his shoulders.

Since God is no longer bringing any new revelations now that we have the perfect and the last book is still Revelation with a warning not to add to or subtract from the whole .

How did God tell you and what did laying your hands on do?

 

[Garee]

The insperation of the Holy Spirit is shown in many ways.

If we do not include the teachings we find in Scripture after the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit, and base everything on what was Written at the time, how could anyone ever believe to have faith.

I would offer to be careful and not destroy that which defends us (as it is written)

It was trusting the voice of another authority other than the word of God that caused the fall of mankind. The same
as today

The inspiration of the Holy Spirit is shown in one way as it is written . As it is written make the devil flee. Jesus the apostle ( sent one) when given the words from the father rebuked the devil three times .(it is written) Three denotes the end of a mater as to whatsoever is in view .

The it in the phrase as it is writen represents the mighty faith of Christ that does work in the believer to both reveal his will and empower mankind to perform it .

The phrase (as it is written )is used 35 times in the new testament 15 in the old . Same faith of Christ working in both.

Mathew 4:7-11 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Remember, the ' Bible ' that everyone enjoys today was not written until the 3rd century .

So what did the early Christians base thier faith on. No " bibles " to lean on as a crutch to thier faith, like so many here do.

They had true faith. And it was in the Holy Spirit ( i. E. GOD ) they put thier faith into.

They did as Elijah had done, putting thier faith into that tiny whispering wind.

The Bible was never ment to be the end all. Even Jesus stated this many times ( something the " We follow the Bible " crowd ) really never pay attention to.

Remember the living abiding word of God has always been the final authority in matters of faith (the unseen eternal) The will of God's prophecy was working in mankind as it is writen before one word was etched in stone by the finger of God . (Not the finger of the apostle Moses) One third of human history had already passed. God who was there as a witness recorded it .

The faith of Christ is based on all things written in the law and prophets or law the written word and the testemony. "let there be" and "t was very good."

So then it is the kind of a supernatural crutch by which two could walk together as one .

It was not the wind that Elijah heard that worked in Elijah to both reveal the will of God and empower Elisha to come out of the cave ,.. The wind blows but offers no interpretation .

Look at the Apostles, how it changed them.

Yes they had the Spirit of Christ as it is writen working in them just as us today ..

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

We must be careful not to make the foundation (the faith of Christ ) without effect. Like many times the word faith seems to cause confusion to the faithless.

 

[Sue D.]

I know that Bill...I'm just getting grouchier as I near my end.

 

[Bill]

I know that Bill...I'm just getting grouchier as I near my end.

Ok Oscar

 

[Bill]

Since God is no longer bringing any new revelations now that we have the perfect and the last book is still Revelation with a warning not to add to or subtract from the whole .

How did God tell you and what did laying your hands on do?

Has God stopped creation ? Every part of creation is a new revelation . But maybe we should understand what the word Revelation is , it means to reveal.

Now i have to believe you are not implying you are God, and know all things.

But Revelations has not yet been fully revealed , if it had , you would know what the Thunders said to John