Why Jesus could not condemn the Woman who was caught in the very act of adultery?

[Truth_seeker2022]

The work of repentance requires it.

The focus is the writing in the dust twice ignoring them the first time . It would seem writing their names the oldest to the youngest . showing their hearts are deceitful and desperately wicked as in who can know the works of its imaginations? The oldest as elders having more experience with the Old testament followed by the younger Like a thorn bush it pricked their conscience or deceitful heart.

Jerimiah 17: 9 -13 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. As the partridge sitteth on eggs, and hatcheth them not; so he that getteth riches, and not by right, shall leave them in the midst of his days, and at his end shall be a fool. A glorious high throne from the beginning is the place of our sanctuary. O Lord, the hope of Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, and they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the Lord, the fountain of living waters.

If God had given the moral knowledge to Adam and Eve they would not have stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence.

 

[God's Truth]

You have forgotten , Jesus is the Word of both Old and New Testiment.

No, I haven't forgotten that, in fact, it is strange how trinitarians don't want to say Jesus is God the Father come in the flesh when it is Jesus speaking in the Old Testament at that time only being known as the Father.

Care to explain to me why you would think I have forgotten?

Because Jesus likely quoted the law that said let the one who is without sin cast the first stone.

Joestue said Jesus telling the people to cast the first stone the one without sin was an old testament teaching, and I just want him to prove that with scripture.

 

[Garee]

If God had given the moral knowledge to Adam and Eve they would not have stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence.

But they were clothed

Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and "clothed them".

Sone say he killed a animal. What hasbeen revealed from other verses up until this point in the story. Is that we know that Adam and Eve after they had sinned became afraid and told God it was because they were naked. God confronts them and asks “who said you were naked?” In other words God did not say they were naked?

From God’s perspective they were spirits clothed in a body. But what changed from chapter where Adam and Eve were not ashamed of being naked to chapter 3 where they obviously felt shame and embarrassment.?

They were more like innocent children who are not concerned with clothing because they are spiritually aware and realize that they are spirits clothed with a body. In that way we must be like children in a mature way .Not childish


At a certain time children can suddenly become conscious of their bodies more than they are conscious of their spirits. Now mankind is focused upon their bodies and wholly consumed with the natural. This is what happened to Adam and Eve, they because of the fall are now oblivious to spiritual things and now consumed with natural things.

 

[Shaolin]

Remember this is not “Sunday School”, once a week “bible class” or ask your pastor radio program. This is “Talk Jesus”. Com. Give “Holy Scripture” back up your answer or refer to scripture in context pertaining to the post. A hint “people always get it wrong.” The reason why, he did not condemn her.

You begin with the wrong premise. Jesus could have condemned her, He had every Biblical right to do so. The OP title should be re-written to say, "Why did He not condemn her when He could have."

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[PloughBoy]

You begin with the wrong premise. Jesus could have condemned her, He had every Biblical right to do so. The OP title should be re-written to say, "Why did He not condemn her when He could have."

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Yep, everybody has a opinion! I do too!

If you do not like the horse do not get in the saddle. But find another horse with a saddle more liken to you cowboy.

Come few.

 

[Shaolin]

Yep, everybody has a opinion! I do too!

If you do not like the horse do not get in the saddle. But find another horse with a saddle more liken to you cowboy.

Come few.

Nice try, plowboy...but I did not give an opinion, I gave a fact. There is a difference. Most of what you give, yes...those are unsubstantiated facts void of any truth. I don't say something unless I know what I am talking about, the facts...an opinion is not based upon facts, it is based upon personal bias and assumptions.

But, as I said...nice try...

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[Truth_seeker2022]

But they were clothed

Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and "clothed them".

Sone say he killed a animal. What hasbeen revealed from other verses up until this point in the story. Is that we know that Adam and Eve after they had sinned became afraid and told God it was because they were naked. God confronts them and asks “who said you were naked?” In other words God did not say they were naked?

From God’s perspective they were spirits clothed in a body. But what changed from chapter where Adam and Eve were not ashamed of being naked to chapter 3 where they obviously felt shame and embarrassment.?

They were more like innocent children who are not concerned with clothing because they are spiritually aware and realize that they are spirits clothed with a body. In that way we must be like children in a mature way .Not childish


At a certain time children can suddenly become conscious of their bodies more than they are conscious of their spirits. Now mankind is focused upon their bodies and wholly consumed with the natural. This is what happened to Adam and Eve, they because of the fall are now oblivious to spiritual things and now consumed with natural things.

So the forbidden moral knowledge made them feel guilty of staying unclothed in God's most holy presence?

 

[God's Truth]

You begin with the wrong premise. Jesus could have condemned her, He had every Biblical right to do so. The OP title should be re-written to say, "Why did He not condemn her when He could have."

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Right!
Jesus came to make a new covenant where we have mercy and no more stoned to death for some sins like adultery and working on the Sabbath.

 

[PloughBoy]

How are human “morals” establish?
And when was the word “morals” coined, what century was the word moral was created and define.

Human words have universal definition..

Their are many who have a personal definition of a human word that is foreign to the definition define by millions..

PS. Adam and Eve did not break any laws. So how could they been Immoral?

And they didn’t know the difference between right and wrong.

 

[Garee]

So the forbidden moral knowledge made them feel guilty of staying unclothed in God's most holy presence?

God did not tell them they were naked . They saw their own and knew their moral power was gone.

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

God did not tell them they were naked . They saw their own and knew their moral power was gone.

Why would God say they were naked for He created them to live undressed.

They didn't see but the forbidden knowledge of good and evil made them see they were morally undressed (Genesis 3:11).

 

[PloughBoy]

God did not tell them they were naked . They saw their own and knew their moral power was gone.

The language you use and terminology, it sure is not the language of “The Catholic Faith”!

I think you are a plant! You are a plant a strange one too! “TalkJesus” members beware of a couple . That is Scattering weed seeds.

Diverting The True Gospel According to Jesus Christ.

A very big disturbing bag and it is full!

You can tell something is not right.

And this is serious!

These are not “Christian thought patterns”

“5 Alarm FIRE!
Something is in “The Pot”!

38When Elisha returned to Gilgal, there was a famine in the land. As the sons of the prophets were sitting before him, he said to his servant, “Put on the large pot and boil stew for the sons of the prophets.” 39Then one went out into the field to gather herbs, and found a wild vine and gathered from it his lap full of wild gourds, and came and sliced them into the pot of stew, for they did not know what they were. 40So they poured it out for the men to eat. And it came about as they were eating of the stew, that they cried out and said, “O man of God, there is death in the pot.” And they were unable to eat.

Beware, that devil has planters, scattering , everywhere, his time is so near

A warning, we have a couple who is “contaminated the water” being very “ subtle“ unaware.

I have never in counter one like this one before! But it is “unclean”

And it has entered the fellowship but not.
It has “Blocking agents”. “ Liken unto a high school “fullback” using two strong “Halfbacks” as guards coming up “The Middle” 10 yards at a Time, heading to “The Goal Line”

I did play “Middle Linebacker” I know how to Read Patterns, and I did not back down! And I know how to defend the line! And I knew my outside “Linebackers”, and one, had a position, we label “Rober Man”. And I gave him a nickname, who I called “Boo Boo”! We where a Team, And I Called the Shots on That Line! When it got tight! We tighten Up!!!

We was the Best in The “PSL” concerning that “Goal Line Defense”!

And I am Reading The Mail now!

They are putting “Poison in The POT”!
And Trying to Feed “The Chosen” Messengers of GOD”

And when they open their mouths you can smell “The Hidden Aroma of Sulfur cover up with “unholy Fire”.

And this Quote Stands Sure and do not need a “Defense”

“but there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be [d]accursed! 9As we have saidbefore, even now I say again: if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be [e]accursed!”

Come around here going to Tell you what “GOD” wants you To Know! Going to Interpret The Bible for You!

And GOD is Your FATHER and Jesus is Your Shepherd!

They must think, you are Fool!

Don’t let these dime store cowboys, interpret to You what the BIBLE Says!

I will say this; be careful of old carrying demons! They have been groom down through the years and well cultivated, and their tentacles runs wide and deep!

 

[Garee]

The language you use and terminology, it sure is not the language of “The Catholic Faith”!

I think you are a plant! You are a plant a strange one too! “TalkJesus” members beware of a couple . That is Scattering weed seeds.

Diverting The True Gospel According to Jesus Christ.

A very big disturbing bag and it is full!

I would agree we must be careful how we hear or say we hear what the Spirit says to the churches, as it is written . God never considered flesh as something that had power . its what clothed' their spirit of life. .Flesh, the largest organ working together as one body the bride or church .How beautiful are the feet shod with the gospel of peace. . The work of the father and Son.

Genisi 3 11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

A spirit has not flesh and bones.

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

God is not a man as us. Never could be a creation, a creature has a beginning and end .

 

[God's Truth]

God is not a man as us. Never could be a creation, a creature has a beginning and end .

Jesus is God with a body.
He is the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

Isaiah 44:6 "This is what the LORD says--Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

[B-A-C]

God is not a man as us. Never could be a creation, a creature has a beginning and end .

Jesus Christ - 'the man"

Let me start off by saying Jesus is God. Part of the trinity. No argument about that here. But I want to focus on the human part of Jesus for a moment. Jesus favorite name for Himself was "the Son of Man". This phrase is used over 100 times in the New Testament. Most of those verses are...

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The human part of Jesus was created as part of creation. The God part wasn't. Jesus always existed.
But the reason Jesus had to exist as a man for a while are covered in this thread.

 

[Garee]

Jesus Christ - 'the man"

Let me start off by saying Jesus is God. Part of the trinity. No argument about that here. But I want to focus on the human part of Jesus for a moment. Jesus favorite name for Himself was "the Son of Man". This phrase is used over 100 times in the New Testament. Most of those verses are...

www.talkjesus.com

The human part of Jesus was created as part of creation. The God part wasn't. Jesus always existed.
But the reason Jesus had to exist as a man for a while are covered in this thread.

I would offer. The human part of Jesus was created as part of creation a rudiment of this world (dust). The Son of man was born 2000 years ago and used for a one time propmised demonstration of the lamb who was slain during the six days the father did work.

The demonstration the unseen eternal father not seen working .with the Son the temporal seen . The government of peace that surpasses our understanding ..Him giving us His. gospel rest.

When he left disappeared out of sight he left clear instructions not to think of any man according to the outward flesh (the temporal) .And even though a few did during the 33 year window Today we know him no more . One propmised demonstration .God is not a man as us.

2 Corinthians 5:16King James Version16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

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[PloughBoy]

I believe The “Biblical Text” of “Holy Scripture” teaches that “JESUS” who is The “Christ of GOD” is “The SON of GOD” and “The Son of ADAM [man]!

For He is 100% ADAM and “100 % GOD! At The same Time HE has The POWER to Walk in His “ humanity“ or Step into HIs “ DIVINITY“ anytime He please.

For He is a “son of Adam” and “The SON GOD!

For the word Adam means “man”!

Modern day religion terminology is nothing But a “Stumbling Block” for those who have come up another way

American Standard Version
So also it is written, The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

I would proclaim more, but know how Customary, many prefer regurgitation, Than to come out of The Nest to get more

 

[PloughBoy]

 

[Shaolin]

Right!
Jesus came to make a new covenant where we have mercy and no more stoned to death for some sins like adultery and working on the Sabbath.

While that is true, we must remember and keep in mind that disobedience to God today under the New Covenant - while it does not lead to physical death - DOES lead to spiritual death. We are only in union with God while we walk in obedience to Him, obeying His covenant law, the Law of Christ. When we stop walking in obedience to that covenant law, then we cease to remain abiding in covenant union with Him, and that results in cutting ourselves off from God. Union with God is eternal life; being separated from Him is being spiritually dead while you are still physically alive.

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[God's Truth]

While that is true, we must remember and keep in mind that disobedience to God today under the New Covenant - while it does not lead to physical death - DOES lead to spiritual death. We are only in union with God while we walk in obedience to Him, obeying His covenant law, the Law of Christ. When we stop walking in obedience to that covenant law, then we cease to remain abiding in covenant union with Him, and that results in cutting ourselves off from God. Union with God is eternal life; being separated from Him is being spiritually dead while you are still physically alive.

I would agree with that. We definitely have to keep obeying Jesus.

People can fall away from Jesus see Galatians 5:4; 1 Corinthians 10:12; 2 Peter 3:17. We are warned not to drift away, Hebrews 2:1, not to draw back, Hebrews 10:38; to hold on and stand firm, Hebrews 3:14, 1 Corinthians 15:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15. We are told how not to fall, 2 Peter 1:10, how not to be hardened, Hebrews 3:8,13.

God can throw people out, Matthew 22:13, blot people out, Exodus 32:32-33, remove your lampstand, Revelation 2:5, sign you a place with unbelievers, Luke 12:46, and cut you off, Romans 11:19-21. We can become defiled, Hebrews 12:15. Our lamps can burn out, Matthew 25:8. We can cause ourselves to have to have Christ formed in us again, Galatians 4:19.

We are told how to remain in Jesus, John 6:56, and if we do Jesus will remain in us, John 15:4. Jesus tells us of the good if we remain in him, John 15:5, and of the bad when we do not, John 15:6. Jesus exhorts us to remain in him, John 15:9, 10, Acts 14:22, and 1 John 2:24.