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Why Jesus could not condemn the Woman who was caught in the very act of adultery?

But in context, the address of Him as Lord is acknowledging Him as God for how the woman caught in adultery had escaped death and how those whom had asked for healing had faith in Him as God to perform.

So there are incidences in the Bible where people other than His disciples, knew Him to be the Lord God.
No one knew Jesus as the Son of God , Except Mary, Joseph John the Baptist and a few others.

You are making a hypothesis on a single word.

Jesus Jesus Himself states, after Peter's statement, it was only the Father who revealed it to Peter at that time. And in the writing of the Gospels, the proclamation of Peter happened well after the Pharisees test.

Are you saying scripture is wrong ?
 
Lol , welcome to the club.

He writes , because you say sad, you must be depressed.

Sometimes i find banging my head against the wall more enlightening than trying to reason here. Lol

God's Peace be with you always my friend.
 
Kind of hard to see any correction to what I have shared in that post you are replying to.

Obviously you are disappointed as you did posted earlier "Sad" and thus depressed and so all I can do is ask you to go before that throne of grace and pray normally for some answers from the Lord if everything is all right between you two.

Couldn't hurt.
You missed the wit . Clean over the head
 
Kind of hard to see any correction to what I have shared in that post you are replying to.

Obviously you are disappointed as you did posted earlier "Sad" and thus depressed and so all I can do is ask you to go before that throne of grace and pray normally for some answers from the Lord if everything is all right between you two.

Couldn't hurt.
Really, by now I am accustom to pain, it seems to be a faithful friend.
 
No one knew Jesus as the Son of God , Except Mary, Joseph John the Baptist and a few others.
I am not sure how you are applying the above comment as if that does not derail your point below.
You are making a hypothesis on a single word.

Jesus Jesus Himself states, after Peter's statement, it was only the Father who revealed it to Peter at that time. And in the writing of the Gospels, the proclamation of Peter happened well after the Pharisees test.

Are you saying scripture is wrong ?
Yes, The Father revealed that truth to Peter to relay, and although the Jews have been looking for the prophesied Messiah, they were looking for a King in that regards rather than as the Saviour to give His life as a ransom for many.

However, just because the Father revealed that truth to Peter, this does not negate Mary, Joseph, John the Baptists, and a few others that knew Jesus as the Son of God, right?

So I am not sure what scripture you are applying to that would suggest that none of those people I have cited before as addressing Jesus as Lord discounts them as believing in Him as God.
 
Ok this is why he could not condemn her. Because of the law of God. To condemn someone you had to have two witnesses Jesus had patience and knew everything. And after he wrote something on the ground that convince them to walk away one by one, convicted by their conscience. Jesus was Left Alone and the woman standing in the mist, [guilty]. He said to her, where are your accusers, have any man condemned you? She answered: NO MAN, Lord. Jesus said : neither do I , go and SIN no more. THE WOMAN HAD NO ACCUSERS, NO ONE CONDEMNED HER. Jesus could not condemn her! HE Was not there to see the act, if he was there to see the act, he still could not condemn her it took 2 witnesses. That is why He said: Neither do I condemn thee! He was not there! Another reason why He is also called a “Paraclete” [Advocate]. And knew the Law! LOL ❤️
Yet Jesus also said go and sin no more. Why go beyond not condemning her unless her addressing Him as Lord as in God, is why He did not condemn her and also why He told her to go & sin no more?
 
I believe it is important to give the hope that Jesus can and will deliver sinners from their sins as well as keep them from their sins daily, because for a sinner to repent from all sins before coming to Jesus Christ to be saved is to imply that the sinner has the ability to turn from all sins before he was saved
You are changing it up what I said. The truth must be taught, and the truth is that the Way to get saved is to repent of your sins first.
We have to admit we are sinners if we want to be saved. We have to know what are sins are and confess them to Jesus, and the person must repent of their sins to be saved. They must have every intention of stopping those sins.

and that is not the truth when sinners know sin has dominion over their lives as they wished they were free of its dominion.
What? You don't know that when a person wants to be saved they have to promise God that they will die to the sins of the world and live to please Jesus? That is what water baptism symbolizes.
A woman that I had used to work with had believed that she had to clean up her life first before coming to the Lord, but I was led to tell her that she was to come to Him as she is & Jesus will save her from her sins.
She has to admit she is a sinner, she has to know what her sins are, she is to confess them to Jesus, and promise to die to the sins of the world, and call on Jesus to help her, to save her, to give her his Spirit.
She seemed to not believe me but later on, the next day even, she was filled with joy after finding out that this was true, saying that I was right. It was good to see the Lord had used someone else to minister to her to see her joy of salvation in the Lord.
You have to be careful not to teach wrong too. You can't tell someone faith alone saves, because faith alone is dead and it doesn't save anyone. A person must repent of their sins. There are many scriptures to show you this.
The only repentance I believe is required for salvation is repent from unbelief by believing in Him.
No such thing as that being the only thing to repent of. So many people never even heard of Jesus, so how could they have repented of not believing in him? You sound like someone repeating some talking point from a teacher you choose?
Then discipleship comes in whereas newly saved believers are taught to rely on Jesus Christ daily to help them lay aside evert weight & sin in thought, word, and deed.
There comes a point in a Christian's life where they don't struggle with the same sins every day.
So if any one does offer the altar call, one should include the hope that Jesus can and will deliver sinners from their sins and not just give eternal life for all those who come to & believe in Jesus Christ. Otherwise, to dictate that sinners are to repent from all sins,
We are to repent of all sins. It doesn't mean we stop all sins at that moment and are not going to have to work out our salvation and train ourselves, but it does mean you have to know what your sins are, and repent from them, to know you can't KEEP doing them.
honest sinners
An honest sinner?
may just walk away from coming to Jesus until they feel they have cleaned up their lives also.
Well you don't tell them they don't have to clean up their lives also! Because we are to prove our repentance. However, we are to tell them to call on Jesus to help them, to save them, to give them his Spirit.
 
No one knew Jesus as the Son of God , Except Mary, Joseph John the Baptist and a few others.

You are making a hypothesis on a single word.

Jesus Jesus Himself states, after Peter's statement, it was only the Father who revealed it to Peter at that time. And in the writing of the Gospels, the proclamation of Peter happened well after the Pharisees test.

Are you saying scripture is wrong ?
There are people who KNEW Jesus was the Messiah prophesied to come. They knew he was the Savior. It doesn't mean they knew immediately that he was the Son of God.
 
'And the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman taken in adultery.
And standing her in the midst, they said to Him,
"Teacher, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Now Moses in the Law commanded us that such should be stoned.
You, then, what do you say?"

They said this, tempting Him so that they might have reason to accuse Him.​
But bending down, Jesus wrote on the ground with His finger, not appearing to hear.​
But as they continued to ask Him, He lifted Himself up and said to them,​
"He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her."
And again bending down, He wrote on the ground.​
And hearing, and being convicted by conscience.​
they went out one by one, beginning at the oldest, until the last.​
And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
And bending back up, and seeing no one but the woman, Jesus said to her,
"Woman, where are the ones who accused you?
Did not one give judgment against you?"

And she said, "No one, Lord."
And, Jesus said to her,
" Neither do I give judgment. Go, and sin no more."'
(John 8:3-11 MKJV)

Hello there,

In verses 4-5, the Pharisees said that Moses had commanded that someone such as this woman, taken in adultery, should be stoned: but that law referred only to a 'betrothed damsel' (Deuteronomy 22:45). and to show that the Lord knew their thoughts, and knew also that this was not a 'betrothed damsel', but 'another man's wife'. He complied with the law prescribed in such a case (Numbers 5:11-31), and stooped down and wrote the curses (as required in Numbers 5:23) on the ground.

In Deuteronomy 22:23-24, (regarding a virgin) the death was stoning; but in the case of another man's wife the punishment was NOT stoning, but required a special procedure (Numbers 5:11-31), which left the punishment with God. In stooping down to write on the ground the Lord was drawing their attention to the fact that the case was such as required the fulfilment of Numbers 5 and not Deuteronomy 22.

The Pharisees were convicted by their own conscience (v.9) by the manifestation of the Lord's knowledge of what was in their hearts and of what they were concealing for the purpose of tempting Him.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Really, by now I am accustom to pain, it seems to be a faithful friend.
You must know that you write strangely a lot of the times, and you say things that are not in the Bible. You also claim you are not a Christian and not a teacher. So what is your problem?
 
Ok this is why he could not condemn her. Because of the law of God. To condemn someone you had to have two witnesses Jesus had patience and knew everything. And after he wrote something on the ground that convince them to walk away one by one, convicted by their conscience. Jesus was Left Alone and the woman standing in the mist, [guilty]. He said to her, where are your accusers, have any man condemned you? She answered: NO MAN, Lord. Jesus said : neither do I , go and SIN no more. THE WOMAN HAD NO ACCUSERS, NO ONE CONDEMNED HER. Jesus could not condemn her! HE Was not there to see the act, if he was there to see the act, he still could not condemn her it took 2 witnesses. That is why He said: Neither do I condemn thee! He was not there! Another reason why He is also called a “Paraclete” [Advocate]. And knew the Law! LOL ❤️
You say Jesus couldn't condemn her because no one else did! That is not true! THE OTHERS COULDN'T condemn her BECAUSE of JESUS.
What you said was backwards.
JESUS taught the NEW LAW, the New Covenant, and he was teaching mercy, for the old law would have her stoned to death, but Jesus taught the new law.
 
'And the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman taken in adultery.
And standing her in the midst, they said to Him,
"Teacher, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Now Moses in the Law commanded us that such should be stoned.
You, then, what do you say?"

They said this, tempting Him so that they might have reason to accuse Him.​
But bending down, Jesus wrote on the ground with His finger, not appearing to hear.​
But as they continued to ask Him, He lifted Himself up and said to them,​
"He who is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her."
And again bending down, He wrote on the ground.​
And hearing, and being convicted by conscience.​
they went out one by one, beginning at the oldest, until the last.​
And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
And bending back up, and seeing no one but the woman, Jesus said to her,
"Woman, where are the ones who accused you?
Did not one give judgment against you?"

And she said, "No one, Lord."
And, Jesus said to her,
" Neither do I give judgment. Go, and sin no more."'
(John 8:3-11 MKJV)

Hello there,

In verses 4-5, the Pharisees said that Moses had commanded that someone such as this woman, taken in adultery, should be stoned: but that law referred only to a 'betrothed damsel' (Deuteronomy 22:45). and to show that the Lord knew their thoughts, and knew also that this was not a 'betrothed damsel', but 'another man's wife'. He complied with the law prescribed in such a case (Numbers 5:11-31), and stooped down and wrote the curses (as required in Numbers 5:23) on the ground.

In Deuteronomy 22:23-24, (regarding a virgin) the death was stoning; but in the case of another man's wife the punishment was NOT stoning, but required a special procedure (Numbers 5:11-31), which left the punishment with God. In stooping down to write on the ground the Lord was drawing their attention to the fact that the case was such as required the fulfilment of Numbers 5 and not Deuteronomy 22.

The Pharisees were convicted by their own conscience (v.9) by the manifestation of the Lord's knowledge of what was in their hearts and of what they were concealing for the purpose of tempting Him.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Why are people making this more confusing than it is?

SHE WAS AN ADULTERER.

Jesus knew she was an adulterer.

He told her to go and sin no more.

The old law required her to be stoned to death.

The new law Jesus was making comes with mercy.
 
Jesus said to her,
"Woman, where are the ones who accused you?
Did not one give judgment against you?"

And she said, "No one, Lord."
And, Jesus said to her,
" Neither do I give judgment. Go, and sin no more."'
(John 8:10-11 MKJV)

Hello again,

Notice that when the Lord addresses the woman directly, he does not refer to her SIN. For those who had made the accusation against her, and demanded that she be stoned, (unlawfully as has been proved in reply#132), had left. The Lord acted judicially, according to the law. For he had written her offence in the earth, according to Numbers 5:11-31, and she was now in God's hands.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Why are people making this more confusing than it is?
SHE WAS AN ADULTERER.
Jesus knew she was an adulterer.
He told her to go and sin no more.
The old law required her to be stoned to death.
The new law Jesus was making comes with mercy.
'But bending down,
Jesus wrote on the ground
with His finger,'
(John 8:3-11)

Hello @God's Truth,

The law given at Sinai had not changed, as the Lord Jesus Christ showed by His action, in observing the law of Numbers 5:11-31.
(see reply#132). She was another man's wife, and not a virgin betrothed to a man, therefore stoning was not the punishment. The Lord Jesus knew this, and so did not fall into the trap being laid by the Pharisees.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
Jesus said to her,
"Woman, where are the ones who accused you?
Did not one give judgment against you?"

And she said, "No one, Lord."
And, Jesus said to her,
" Neither do I give judgment. Go, and sin no more."'
(John 8:10-11 MKJV)

Hello again,

Notice that when the Lord addresses the woman directly, he does not refer to her SIN. For those who had made the accusation against her, and demanded that she be stoned, (unlawfully as has been proved in reply#132), had left. The Lord acted judicially, according to the law. For he had written her offence in the earth, according to Numbers 5:11-31, and she was now in God's hands.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
It wouldn't be unlawful. It was the law. Jesus didn't tell them it would be unlawful.
 
You are changing it up what I said. The truth must be taught, and the truth is that the Way to get saved is to repent of your sins first.
We have to admit we are sinners if we want to be saved. We have to know what are sins are and confess them to Jesus, and the person must repent of their sins to be saved. They must have every intention of stopping those sins.
Can you cite an example in the Book of Acts where they had prepped sinners to know what sins they need to repent of before they preached the gospel to them?
What? You don't know that when a person wants to be saved they have to promise God that they will die to the sins of the world and live to please Jesus? That is what water baptism symbolizes.
Can you cite an example in the Book of Acts where sinners made a promise before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ?
She has to admit she is a sinner, she has to know what her sins are, she is to confess them to Jesus, and promise to die to the sins of the world, and call on Jesus to help her, to save her, to give her his Spirit.
Since that promise is open ended and can never be finished, Jesus spoke against it here.

Matthew 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.... 5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:.... 11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


You have to be careful not to teach wrong too. You can't tell someone faith alone saves, because faith alone is dead and it doesn't save anyone. A person must repent of their sins. There are many scriptures to show you this.
Actually, in regards to the Book of James, it is the church sharing their faith in God's Providence to the poor for God without works that is dead. Faith in Jesus Christ for salvation is without works, les any man should boast.
No such thing as that being the only thing to repent of. So many people never even heard of Jesus, so how could they have repented of not believing in him? You sound like someone repeating some talking point from a teacher you choose?
When sinners are slaves to sin, and since it is the Father drawing them unto the Son ( John 6:44 ) to reveal His Son to them so they can believe in Him to be saved ( Matthew 11:25-27 ) then salvation is really that simple John 3:14-18

It is discipleship that comes afterwards for how saved believers now have Jesus Christ in them to live as the sons of God as they can look to Him daily in helping them lay aside every weight & sin in running that race for the high prize of our calling.

You want an example of saved Gentiles being instructed afterwards of certain sins to abstain from?

Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them. 13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

As it is, if they were instructed of what all sins were that they need to repent of before they can preach the gospel, I am sure sinners will either fall sleep or walk away.

There comes a point in a Christians life where they don't struggle with the same sins every day.
True, but with addicts, and we are sin addicts in all respect, we are to rely on Jesus Christ daily to lay aside every weight & sin in running that race.

We are to repent of all sins. It doesn't mean we stop all sins at that moment and are not going to have to work out our salvation and train ourselves, but it does mean you have to know what your sins are, and repent from them, to know you can't KEEP doing them.
I can see the hope in Him for newly saved believers but for sinners to do that before they are saved? That would mean they were born again by the will of the flesh and the will of man, would it not?

John 1: 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

An honest sinner?
Sinners can be honest, and when they are looking at themselves in knowing what a rotten sinner they are, a dog even, unable to stop returning to his vomit, they need to see that hope in Jesus Christ to derstroy the work of the devils in their lives and not just believing in Him for eternal life.

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure..... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.



Well you don't tell them they don't have to clean up their lives also! Because we are to prove our repentance. However, you tell them to call on Jesus to help them, to save them, to give them his Spirit.
They can look to Him in hope that He will deliver them from their sins and not just give them eternal life, and so running that race daily by looking to the author & finisher of our faith is how together with the Lord, we are cleaning up our lives as they walk in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son.
 
'But bending down,
Jesus wrote on the ground
with His finger,'
(John 8:3-11)

Hello @God's Truth,

The law given at Sinai had not changed, as the Lord Jesus Christ showed by His action, in observing the law of Numbers 5:11-31.
You don't know that Jesus came to make a new law, a New Covenant?

What you are saying is not true, for you are adding things not in the scriptures, for Jesus could have said what you said, but he didn't.

Jesus came and made a new covenant, and we can see this in his other teachings too, when the old law says eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth...what does Jesus say? Think about it. There are more like that. The new law is the old law with some changes. See Hebrews 7:12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.
 
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