Women who want to be holy, don’t marry men who choose bad women

[Luminary]

You see, the reason I want to know if you are a man is because I want to know what seduction tactics they used against you to blind you to the truth. But you have not included any of that in.

Sharing about those seduction tactics will help a LOT of people out there who don’t know what they are facing.

It’s a type of mask they wear. It’s hard to tell, until you really spend time with them. As it comes down to intentions. And this we can never know of a person until they show it for what it is. As their actions will start to speak louder than their words.

Seduction itself, is a type of lust. It feeds on the desires of those it goes after. And these are different for everyone. One tends to know when they are being flirted with. It’s in the body language/movement. Words spoken.

But seduction is different than trying to date someone. Usually ends in one night stands. A quick release. And is usually sought after.

So it really depends on the situations and intentions. This will be different for every one.

For me, I wasn’t seduced. It was a group of friends getting together, having fun, getting to know each other and eventually spending more and more time together until we were dating.

But with that said….you seem to be going about this in a very complicated way…

All one has to do to recognize darkness, in all of its many forms, is to Know the Light. Because the Light exposes darkness for what it is, and need not be sought after or learned to avoid it.

This was already tried with the 10 commandments, and already showed not to work.
As was spoken and shown, it takes the Spirit, to illuminate what is what, in things not seen! As it sheds the Light upon it, to see it for what it is!

 

[Luminary]

As for narcissism there are tons of books out there about spotting the signs. In general, ANYONE who comes on too strong at the start is a narcissist. They show you they like you a LOT, but how can they like you so much when they don’t even know who you are deep down? They don’t know your inner soul, so they can’t really love you. It’s fake, it’s an illusion.

It’s not difficult at all to spot red flags, ANYONE who tries to sell themselves to you, behaving like a salesperson should make you run for the hills.

A healthy relationship is about getting to know each other in an organic manner, over time and is slow and steady. Any relationship that does not follow this pattern is dangerous and toxic.

So I really don’t get it why men (or women) find that they need to know rocket science to know how to choose good partners.

Not always. Mine was quiet. Reserved. Self confident, but respectful. It took a lot of time for their true self to show forth. And was done slowly.

Human beings are unique. It’s good to have guidelines to follow, but we are not a one size fits all in any sphere. This is where we have gone so wrong. And goes back to these “boundaries”/separation and labels we place upon ourselves and each other.

To constantly be on the look out, is to be paranoid and causes you more damage to yourself. It pushes people away from you when you don’t even realize it. You block them before they even have a chance this working against yourself.

We are products of our environments. We tend to go after what we know. This is shown in the lives of people themselves. Just by looking into their past to see where they have ended up. Unless a conscious choice was made to change it. And most of the time, they drown it it. Unless someone or something Lukas them back.

So it’s not a matter of just knowing. The nature of the human is hard to overcome, and takes the death of the ego, before it can even begin. Called “being born again”.

 

[Luminary]

People who will be good partners don’t need to “promote” themselves. They simply be who they are and people will notice over time.

Narcissists and bad partners need to behave like salespeople and promote themselves as good (whether through words or actions), because they know their true selves are the opposite of what they actively promote. So you will notice that these people will NEVER make an effort to know who YOU are, they are only interested in promoting to the world how good they are on the outside (when they are actually bad inside).

Is it that hard to grasp??

Not hard to grasp. But hard to become aware of when you have fallen in love with them. Excuses are made for them. You start to think that something is wrong with you, and something within yourself needs to be changed. And nothing anyone can say will make you see this.

It usually comes from a conviction from within. You have to see it for yourself. And timing is different for everyone who goes through this. In any form of abuse. As there are a lot of things to overcome before you are -able- to walk away from such situations.

 

[Godbehonored]

Not hard to grasp. But hard to become aware of when you have fallen in love with them. Excuses are made for them. You start to think that something is wrong with you, and something within yourself needs to be changed. And nothing anyone can say will make you see this.

It usually comes from a conviction from within. You have to see it for yourself. And timing is different for everyone who goes through this. In any form of abuse. As there are a lot of things to overcome before you are -able- to walk away from such situations.

That is why I don’t fall for people
until I have known them through consistent behaviours and attitudes they show in different life scenarios. You shouldn’t be developing any feelings for people based on surface attraction or how they treat you in a short span of time. I used to have this problem of feelings developing too quickly, it didn’t take me long to work this out.

 

[Godbehonored]

Not always. Mine was quiet. Reserved. Self confident, but respectful. It took a lot of time for their true self to show forth. And was done slowly.

Human beings are unique. It’s good to have guidelines to follow, but we are not a one size fits all in any sphere. This is where we have gone so wrong. And goes back to these “boundaries”/separation and labels we place upon ourselves and each other.

To constantly be on the look out, is to be paranoid and causes you more damage to yourself. It pushes people away from you when you don’t even realize it. You block them before they even have a chance this working against yourself.

We are products of our environments. We tend to go after what we know. This is shown in the lives of people themselves. Just by looking into their past to see where they have ended up. Unless a conscious choice was made to change it. And most of the time, they drown it it. Unless someone or something Lukas them back.

So it’s not a matter of just knowing. The nature of the human is hard to overcome, and takes the death of the ego, before it can even begin. Called “being born again”.

So what made you conclude that this person is a narcissist if he/she was originally reserved, self confident and respectful? What were the behaviours or intentions that lead to you concluding that you are dealing with a narcissist?

I don’t agree with you either that I should not be on the lookout. It is a defensive mechanism necessary when upbringing makes me vulnerable to certain traps of toxic relationships. Even the Bible says we are to be as wise as serpents. How do you become wise if you don’t train yourself to recognise good from evil? You are only setting yourself up to getting burned again and again by mindlessly being open.

 

[Godbehonored]

Not hard to grasp. But hard to become aware of when you have fallen in love with them. Excuses are made for them. You start to think that something is wrong with you, and something within yourself needs to be changed. And nothing anyone can say will make you see this.

It usually comes from a conviction from within. You have to see it for yourself. And timing is different for everyone who goes through this. In any form of abuse. As there are a lot of things to overcome before you are -able- to walk away from such situations.

What gnaws at me inside now is seeing evil women draw in men and not able to do anything about it. I have a very keen intuition about people’s intentions and what these evil women are doing, but the men they seduce/interact with are completely blind to them.

It’s the same feeling God has when His people run after strange gods. At the end of the matter it is men’s fault and the fault of God’s people that they aren’t actively on the lookout for evil and end up choosing and rewarding evil. Wisdom don’t come to you as a pie dropping from the sky, you are to SEEK it.

 

[Aiden]

What gnaws at me inside now is seeing evil women draw in men and not able to do anything about it. I have a very keen intuition about people’s intentions and what these evil women are doing, but the men they seduce/interact with are completely blind to them.

It’s the same feeling God has when His people run after strange gods. At the end of the matter it is men’s fault and the fault of God’s people that they aren’t actively on the lookout for evil and end up choosing and rewarding evil. Wisdom don’t come to you as a pie dropping from the sky, you are to SEEK it.

I think you really need this song:

Lyrics:
"Everything's gonna be alright."
She whispers to herself.
She was only 6 years old that night.
As she hid behind that shelf.
Cause daddy had a little too much to drink.
And mama didn't want her to feel the pain she felt.
But she still felt the pain...

Well 10 years they came and went,
And dad was gone.
So she looked for love in other men.
And tried to act strong.
Oh, broken hearts and scars in only places she could see.
Cause she just wanted, she just wanted to feel something.

And as she sat there on her bed,
Thinking 'bout what those girls said,
Tears streamed from her eyes.
She cried...

"If there's a God out there
Please hear my prayer.
I'm lost and I'm scared,
And I've got nowhere else to go.
I've come a long, long way.
But I'm not sure I can make it much farther...
So if you're listening, could you give a helping hand.
To your daughter."

Well her path started to change.
She reached out and grabbed God's grace.
And finally, she saw a light.
Until the night,
Where she decided one drink was alright,
And one thing led to another.
Next thing you know, 9 months go by,
She's a mother.

And as she laid there in that bed.
Stroking that small angel's head.
Tears streamed from her eyes.
She cried...

"If there's a God out there.
Please hear my prayer.
I'm lost and I'm scared,
And I've got nowhere else to run.
I've come a long, long way.
But I'm not sure I can be the best mother...
So if you're listening, could you give a helping hand.
To your daughter."

Well that baby grew into a boy.
Who became her pride and joy.
He loved her like no man could.
And her heart felt peace, cause she finally understood.
God's love.

So as she laid there in that bed,
99 years old.
She grabbed her son's hand and said.
"There's something you must know..."

"There is a God up there.
Who heard my prayer.
I was lost and afraid.
And I had nowhere else to go.
I had no clue, what to do
And then He sent me you."

So if you're lost and afraid,
And you feel so alone,
Don't worry child,
Cause there's a Father who will love you as His own.
Just like He loved His daughter.
Like He loved His daughter.

 

[Godbehonored]

I think you really need this song:

Lyrics:
"Everything's gonna be alright."
She whispers to herself.
She was only 6 years old that night.
As she hid behind that shelf.
Cause daddy had a little too much to drink.
And mama didn't want her to feel the pain she felt.
But she still felt the pain...

Well 10 years they came and went,
And dad was gone.
So she looked for love in other men.
And tried to act strong.
Oh, broken hearts and scars in only places she could see.
Cause she just wanted, she just wanted to feel something.

And as she sat there on her bed,
Thinking 'bout what those girls said,
Tears streamed from her eyes.
She cried...

"If there's a God out there
Please hear my prayer.
I'm lost and I'm scared,
And I've got nowhere else to go.
I've come a long, long way.
But I'm not sure I can make it much farther...
So if you're listening, could you give a helping hand.
To your daughter."

Well her path started to change.
She reached out and grabbed God's grace.
And finally, she saw a light.
Until the night,
Where she decided one drink was alright,
And one thing led to another.
Next thing you know, 9 months go by,
She's a mother.

And as she laid there in that bed.
Stroking that small angel's head.
Tears streamed from her eyes.
She cried...

"If there's a God out there.
Please hear my prayer.
I'm lost and I'm scared,
And I've got nowhere else to run.
I've come a long, long way.
But I'm not sure I can be the best mother...
So if you're listening, could you give a helping hand.
To your daughter."

Well that baby grew into a boy.
Who became her pride and joy.
He loved her like no man could.
And her heart felt peace, cause she finally understood.
God's love.

So as she laid there in that bed,
99 years old.
She grabbed her son's hand and said.
"There's something you must know..."

"There is a God up there.
Who heard my prayer.
I was lost and afraid.
And I had nowhere else to go.
I had no clue, what to do
And then He sent me you."

So if you're lost and afraid,
And you feel so alone,
Don't worry child,
Cause there's a Father who will love you as His own.
Just like He loved His daughter.
Like He loved His daughter.

Nice song.

I don’t look for love in men or people anymore. They are unreliable.

I’m just waiting for the day I can leave this world behind.

 

[Luminary]

I’m very sorry for what you have been through. I was born into atheism and was suicidal at the age of 7. So yeah, suicidal thoughts have been a part of my life ever since I had memory.

My family, being godless, was plagued by violence (mostly emotional) and God reached out to me through Jesus at my darkest moment just like He did you. I was close to the point of facing full blown demonic possession. When I did turn to Christ, the violence was directed at me instead. It was a literal spiritual battle of good and evil. I was subjected to violence and emotional abuse most of my early adolescence and adulthood. That does not even include all the pain I get from relationships with men and the other forms of ill-treatment I have faced at work or school.

It should therefore not be surprising that I am bitter. I don’t think you have even been through as much as I did.

Thank you for sharing that

I appreciate it But please don’t be. If it wasn’t for the trama that I went through, I wouldn’t be the person I am today, and for that I’m great full It’s called being refined through the fire! I’m stronger, wiser, smarter, and Understand the Power of Love deeper. It brought me to my knees to call out, and be picked up by Jesus

I was raised in a Catholic home, and went through verbal, sexual, physical, and emotional abuse. I wanted to murder my father by the age of 10. Run away from my mother by the age of 13, and suicidal by the age of 23, because of my choices through it all to that point. What I did and didn’t do. Then I wanted to hide from the world after learning of Jesus. Hence me slowing stepping out now.

I’ve experienced the same as you after coming Jesus. From my partner(it really upset them when I would put time into studying it) and from those called Christians from the churches I went through. It is indeed a broad road. Painful and dark. But it just shows even more his faithfulness when he is followed

Abuse should not be measured against another’s. Abuse is abuse in all it’s forms. We can let it break us, or make us. The choice always remains ours. And neither should it be used as an excuse to be a certain way. You go through stages of a type of grief. And you are in the beginning of it. It will get better. You must learn to use it to grow, instead of letting it bury you from drowning in it.

 

[Godbehonored]

Thank you for sharing that

I appreciate it But please don’t be. If it wasn’t for the trama that I went through, I wouldn’t be the person I am today, and for that I’m great full It’s called being refined through the fire! I’m stronger, wiser, smarter, and Understand the Power of Love deeper. It brought me to my knees to call out, and be picked up by Jesus

I was raised in a Catholic home, and went through verbal, sexual, physical, and emotional abuse. I wanted to murder my father by the age of 10. Run away from my mother by the age of 13, and suicidal by the age of 23, because of my choices through it all to that point. What I did and didn’t do. Then I wanted to hide from the world after learning of Jesus. Hence me slowing stepping out now.

I’ve experienced the same as you after coming Jesus. From my partner(it really upset them when I would put time into studying it) and from those called Christians from the churches I went through. It is indeed a broad road. Painful and dark. But it just shows even more his faithfulness when he is followed

Abuse should not be measured against another’s. Abuse is abuse in all it’s forms. We can let it break us, or make us. The choice always remains ours. And neither should it be used as an excuse to be a certain way. You go through stages of a type of grief. And you are in the beginning of it. It will get better. You must learn to use it to grow, instead of letting it bury you from drowning in it.

I said sorry because I deeply empathise with you. You’ve been through very horrible things. I’m fortunate that all the abuse I’ve been through was spiritual and emotional. God did not allow sexual or physical abuse to touch me. The devil, however, wanted to lure me into sexual perversion/fornication. My soul could not accept it. It started with homosexual attraction (when I was atheist), to having men in my life tempt me to sleep with them, even married men would tempt me. I was utterly disgusted and ran away/resisted. Every single time.

The Catholic religion is the synagogue of Satan since the time of Constantine. Look at the number of demon possession cases, sexual scandals, child abuse and whatnots happening among the Catholic community. A good tree cannot bear such bad fruits. I’m glad you are delivered out of religion.

You are right. Abuse/pain can make or break us. I have told God that as long as I live, I will be kind to others, even towards evil women who steal men from me and harbor ill-will against me. I am trying to overcome evil with good, so when I die I can die peacefully.

 

[Luminary]

You mean well but I’m leaving this up to God. If He is willing to take me out of this world I’m not staying an extra second here. Don’t worry lol, I won’t commit suicide. My life isn’t my decision.

Ecclesiastes 7:1 NLT
A good reputation is more valuable than costly perfume. And the day you die is better than the day you are born.

If you understand fully what Ecclesiastes is saying you will see where I am coming from.

But it is your decision. And God has left it up to you! To live or die. All you have to do, is ask, and you shall receive…..Do you believe this?

Keep going. Or give up. And the rest will fall into place. HE gave you the Choice! He equips you! Or leaves you in your death, that will go slowly by nature, or by your own choice(s).

To suffer, in this life, Is to gain wisdom, as the whole book of Ecclesiastes speaks upon. Yet is not necessary. It’s meaningless, unless you give it meaning. Did you catch that?

Ironic you chose that book to quote…lol
Seems someone is guiding you to something


You must come out of your limited scope! And open your eyes that will see, and your ears that are capable of hearing.

 

[Luminary]

That is why I don’t fall for people
until I have known them through consistent behaviours and attitudes they show in different life scenarios. You shouldn’t be developing any feelings for people based on surface attraction or how they treat you in a short span of time. I used to have this problem of feelings developing too quickly, it didn’t take me long to work this out.

Consistency in life doesn’t exist. Except for life itself, which is in constant change.

Emotions are tricky to navigate. And it’s impossible to not have feelings towards others..It’s another language! One we are not taught to speak properly, and rather suppressed and avoided! But it is important to seek why you feel such feeling towards them. Be it friends, family or partners/spouses.

We are magnetic beings. Bio-electro-magnetic beings….We attract. Just like magnets. Atoms….
All of it. So you then must look at yourself, and see why it is that you are attracting brain dead, jezebel seeking, “evil” men into your life!

Please bear with my frankness, and be patient with me….
From what you have spoken here, it would seem you didn’t work anything out. You built a wall and are avoiding it. Hiding from it. And pushing away both the good and the bad at the same time. Yours to do with what you will. But it will not change unless you chance it. You just have to the the (inner) work required.

 

[Godbehonored]

Consistency in life doesn’t exist. Except for life itself, which is in constant change.

Emotions are tricky to navigate. And it’s impossible to not have feelings towards others..It’s another language! One we are not taught to speak properly, and rather suppressed and avoided! But it is important to seek why you feel such feeling towards them. Be it friends, family or partners/spouses.

We are magnetic beings. Bio-electro-magnetic beings….We attract. Just like magnets. Atoms….
All of it. So you then must look at yourself, and see why it is that you are attracting brain dead, jezebel seeking, “evil” men into your life!

Please bear with my frankness, and be patient with me….
From what you have spoken here, it would seem you didn’t work anything out. You built a wall and are avoiding it. Hiding from it. And pushing away both the good and the bad at the same time. Yours to do with what you will. But it will not change unless you chance it. You just have to the the (inner) work required.

I was starting to open up and empathise, and this post here set me right back to how I felt when I first saw your posts. You are drawing foolish and misguided conclusions about me.

I did not say it is possible not to have feelings for others. I am saying you can exercise self control about your feelings. One does not have to get into a relationship simply because there are feelings involved. That is not being open, that’s recklessness! I learned to not rush into a relationship just because I am attracted to someone, because that’s not love that’s trying to fill a void. So I did work something out unlike what you said!

I don’t know why such men keep coming into my life, I asked God and He never gave an answer. But it is not my fault! I never pushed away the good with the bad, good never entered in!

 

[Luminary]

So what made you conclude that this person is a narcissist if he/she was originally reserved, self confident and respectful? What were the behaviours or intentions that lead to you concluding that you are dealing with a narcissist?

I don’t agree with you either that I should not be on the lookout. It is a defensive mechanism necessary when upbringing makes me vulnerable to certain traps of toxic relationships. Even the Bible says we are to be as wise as serpents. How do you become wise if you don’t train yourself to recognise good from evil? You are only setting yourself up to getting burned again and again by mindlessly being open.

21 years together. The control. The deflection when faced with themselves. Always my fault. The Ego that eventually presented itself larger than life.

I do not advocate mindlessness. There is a difference between looking for it, and being aware of what your dealing with. And it makes the difference between pushing people away and drawing them near. For even these need to be aware of themselves also. From the right ones able to handle them.

You grow up in the Light, to be able to recognize that which belong to the darkness.

 

[Aiden]

21 years together. The control. The deflection when faced with themselves. Always my fault. The Ego that eventually presented itself larger than life.

I do not advocate mindlessness. There is a difference between looking for it, and being aware of what your dealing with. And it makes the difference between pushing people away and drawing them near. For even these need to be aware of themselves also. From the right ones able to handle them.

You grow up in the Light, to be able to recognize that which belong to the darkness.

Goodmorning :]

 

[Luminary]

What gnaws at me inside now is seeing evil women draw in men and not able to do anything about it. I have a very keen intuition about people’s intentions and what these evil women are doing, but the men they seduce/interact with are completely blind to them.

It’s the same feeling God has when His people run after strange gods. At the end of the matter it is men’s fault and the fault of God’s people that they aren’t actively on the lookout for evil and end up choosing and rewarding evil. Wisdom don’t come to you as a pie dropping from the sky, you are to SEEK it.

 

[Luminary]

What gnaws at me inside now is seeing evil women draw in men and not able to do anything about it. I have a very keen intuition about people’s intentions and what these evil women are doing, but the men they seduce/interact with are completely blind to them.

It’s the same feeling God has when His people run after strange gods. At the end of the matter it is men’s fault and the fault of God’s people that they aren’t actively on the lookout for evil and end up choosing and rewarding evil. Wisdom don’t come to you as a pie dropping from the sky, you are to SEEK it.

I wouldn’t say they are completely blind to it. Apparently they make the choice to indulge.

Men are animals…lol…and so can woman be…..Like to get down and dirty. Play in the taboos… And if their partner/spouse isn’t fulfilling their needs, they will go where they will be. Especially a woman who hold back or sets boundaries. Its more than likely mutual.

I don’t think that secondpart of what you are referencing says the same thing you are trying to make it say.or are comparing it too…
Else you find yourself in the same situation (chasing strange Gods) not realizing it.
As you speak from the traditions of Christianity that have been spoken for so long. And not so much your fault. Until you seek God yourself through the Spirit that leads to His Truth. Then he will show you, and you may feel what he feels. Else you project your humanity (flesh) upon God(spirit) And they are not equal!

 

[Luminary]

I was starting to open up and empathise, and this post here set me right back to how I felt when I first saw your posts. You are drawing foolish and misguided conclusions about me.

I did not say it is possible not to have feelings for others. I am saying you can exercise self control about your feelings. One does not have to get into a relationship simply because there are feelings involved. That is not being open, that’s recklessness! I learned to not rush into a relationship just because I am attracted to someone, because that’s not love that’s trying to fill a void. So I did work something out unlike what you said!

I don’t know why such men keep coming into my life, I asked God and He never gave an answer. But it is not my fault! I never pushed away the good with the bad, good never entered in!

 

[Luminary]

I was starting to open up and empathise, and this post here set me right back to how I felt when I first saw your posts. You are drawing foolish and misguided conclusions about me.

I did not say it is possible not to have feelings for others. I am saying you can exercise self control about your feelings. One does not have to get into a relationship simply because there are feelings involved. That is not being open, that’s recklessness! I learned to not rush into a relationship just because I am attracted to someone, because that’s not love that’s trying to fill a void. So I did work something out unlike what you said!

I don’t know why such men keep coming into my life, I asked God and He never gave an answer. But it is not my fault! I never pushed away the good with the bad, good never entered in!

I simply go off your own words…. Neith do I draw hasty conclusion. I allow your own words to speak for themselves.

But I do agree that no relationship should be rushed into, and that we shouldnt be impulsive with our feelings. You are simply learning self control.

But you say your on the lookout for certain “qualities”. To avoid. All kids of books that speak of them, which means you listen to them.
And the thing with this is these “qualities”, can also be apart of simple human nature. None of us are perfect, and all have our flaws. And your judgment is based upon past hurts and current pains…which blurs your vision.

All are at different levels of maturity and are growing. You don’t know if you don’t have it in you to be the one to change that man. As long as he is willing. And it will take you going through it over and over, as this is how majority of men are raised. It’s engrained in them. So how would you know if God wasn’t using you to be his tool to make such a change in one? Since this is a reaccuring theme in your life?

This is why your healing is so important, and why your own “ego” must take up its own Cross and follow until “death”, so you may be raised to new life!

I’m not saying put up with it by multiple men. But I am saying that when that one comes along, that grabs your heart and you can’t help it, and he walks away to another, but then comes back, and walks away again and then comes back and walks away again and comes back…..if he keeps coming back…there is possibility that he can and will change with Gods Love, patients, forgiveness, mercy and Grace. For that is what will change him.

Like attracts like. Yet also it’s opposite. And can be both at the same time! Not your fault, as it’s how your made. But is choices you choose to make.
Yours to figure out. Why is the wrong question.

Who are you? Underneath it all?
(Not to be answered here, but within your self)

 

[Luminary]

Goodmorning :]

Good morning to you also!