ToPraiseHim
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hi Tersia i will keep that dear one in prayer.
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Is abortion ever ok???
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shipwrecksoul
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Mr. Self A.K.A. the devil would say abortion is OK.
Our loving God would never promote it.
Imagine on judgment day when Tiller and many others who done the Self thing by abortions stand before almighty God and will be shown the horrific crimes committed. Jesus will then pass the sentence for those who never knew him and who work iniquity.
Our loving God would never promote it.
Imagine on judgment day when Tiller and many others who done the Self thing by abortions stand before almighty God and will be shown the horrific crimes committed. Jesus will then pass the sentence for those who never knew him and who work iniquity.
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Are we not supposed to be our brothers keeper? And yet everyday people in third world countries die of malnutrition and drinking contaminated water, etc. And the issue is abortion?
Get real!
There are more pressing issues for the Chruch to contend with. Abortion can take a backseat until then.
MelechYisrael
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Not a pressing issue????
Nearly half of pregnancies among American women are unintended, and four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion. Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion.
In 2005, 1.21 million abortions were performed. From 1973 through 2005, more than 45 million legal abortions occurred.
Women who have never married obtain two-thirds of all abortions.
Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.
Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control.
Even without specific parental involvement laws, six in 10 minors who have an abortion report that at least one parent knew about it.
Seventeen states use public funds to pay for abortions for some poor women, but only four do so voluntarily; the rest do so under a court order. About 13% of all abortions in the United States are paid for with public funds (virtually all from state governments).
It is estimated here that, as of 2008, about 28% of U.S. women ages 15-64 have had abortions. This figure has risen from 2.8% in 1973 to 11% in 1980, 19% in 1987, 24% in 1994, and 27% in 2001. In 2008, of women ages 40-55, about 40% have had abortions in their lifetimes.
From 1967 to September 2008, approximately 50,200,000 abortions occurred in the United States; of these, about 30,260,000 or 60% were to women with no prior abortions. In other words, 30,260,000 different women had one or more abortions from 1967 to the present in the U.S.
1920 - 2008: 858,000,000 reported abortions, estimated 961,000,000 total abortions globally.
Estimated current global monthly average: 1,206,000 abortions
Johnston’s Archive - Planned Parenthood - Guttmacher Institute
Psalms 139:13-16: For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
We should do all in our power to protect this life (Proverbs 24:11; Proverbs 31:8-9)
God jealously maintains his sole prerogative over human life and death (Deuteronomy 32:39; 1 Samuel 2:6). To take that power into our hands is literally to play God.
Nearly half of pregnancies among American women are unintended, and four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion. Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion.
In 2005, 1.21 million abortions were performed. From 1973 through 2005, more than 45 million legal abortions occurred.
Women who have never married obtain two-thirds of all abortions.
Forty-six percent of women who have abortions had not used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Of these women, 33% had perceived themselves to be at low risk for pregnancy, 32% had had concerns about contraceptive methods, 26% had had unexpected sex and 1% had been forced to have sex.
Eight percent of women who have abortions have never used a method of birth control.
Even without specific parental involvement laws, six in 10 minors who have an abortion report that at least one parent knew about it.
Seventeen states use public funds to pay for abortions for some poor women, but only four do so voluntarily; the rest do so under a court order. About 13% of all abortions in the United States are paid for with public funds (virtually all from state governments).
It is estimated here that, as of 2008, about 28% of U.S. women ages 15-64 have had abortions. This figure has risen from 2.8% in 1973 to 11% in 1980, 19% in 1987, 24% in 1994, and 27% in 2001. In 2008, of women ages 40-55, about 40% have had abortions in their lifetimes.
From 1967 to September 2008, approximately 50,200,000 abortions occurred in the United States; of these, about 30,260,000 or 60% were to women with no prior abortions. In other words, 30,260,000 different women had one or more abortions from 1967 to the present in the U.S.
1920 - 2008: 858,000,000 reported abortions, estimated 961,000,000 total abortions globally.
Estimated current global monthly average: 1,206,000 abortions
Johnston’s Archive - Planned Parenthood - Guttmacher Institute
Psalms 139:13-16: For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
We should do all in our power to protect this life (Proverbs 24:11; Proverbs 31:8-9)
God jealously maintains his sole prerogative over human life and death (Deuteronomy 32:39; 1 Samuel 2:6). To take that power into our hands is literally to play God.
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BlessedLady
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It is never alright!!!!!!!!!!!!! God has brought new life and who do humans think they are, to destroy it because its "not convenient" for them? It totally frustrates me that people do this kind of thing. Especially that PARTIAL BIRTH abortion. Where they let everything but the head be born and than stab it in the neck to kill it, before they let the head be born. IT IS MURDER no matter what anyone says. It is murder and it is going against God, the giver and creator of life. My husband an myself have been Blessed with 2 lovely kids, even though doctors told us, it was not gonna happen. So i totally condemn abortion for THAT reason too. Life given by God is sacred. We are not to mess with that!!!!
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Rupert
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I don't disagree, abortion is wrong and I wish it didn't happen.
All I was saying is that while starvation occurs to children - causing death needlessly, that is a worse issue than abortion.
And yet the church only seems concerned about the abortion issue, as if the starvation to death issue in the 3rd world is not as important. Indeed, I would say it is even more important an issue for the church to focus on - because those children have already been born.
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Both issues I'm sure, must grieve the Almighty. The sad thing about abortion, is that these babies are not regarded as life. And life is life. Whether in the womb, or breathing free air. These babies are callously destroyed. They are brutally destroyed. And abortion causes death needlessly. Aborted babies are aborted more oft than not, because the one responsible for conception cannot be bothered to deal with the consequences. It is murder borne of selfishness. God has told us that it is He who has created all life. Even in the womb, we are fashioned, shaped and molded. He has said that He is the One Who gives life and He is the One Who kills. It is not our choice or our right to take a life that He has created.
Many third world countries are starving due to lack of knowledge, as well as lack of financial funds. These people are in a situation not of their own making. These are poor countries - in more ways than one.
I do not believe the church ignores the issues in third world countries. I do not believe the church considers this problem as not being a problem. I know many, many people/churches working toward helping these countries. There are many ministries that offer money, time and effort in supporting programs that help third world countries. Not only in feeding starving people, offering financial aid, but also teaching them how to stand on their own. Imparting that kind of knowledge takes time. Time to teach and time to learn.
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Both are important. The unforseen consequenses about the abortion issue today however,
is that life has been devalued by virture of abortion becoming legal and acceptable in the world. Here we are as a body of believers debating the topic.?. Only 50+ years ago, this was still taboo and was rarely done with a clear conscience.
At one time, the Judeo/Christian world made the effort to help out poor nations with such issues as starvation.
They have suffered under the auspices of abortion being acceptable and ok, and thereby some starvation is now seen as acceptable and ok..
It seems only when there is massive starvation, that a government will involve themselves to alter such a situation. It was not always this way.
The defining issue is therefore: At what point is life valued?
Is if before a life becomes obsolete and a burden (the elderly), or a nuisance because I don't want to look fat?
When all life is valued, the issue of children suffering from starvation or malutrition, will more properly be delt with.
In the mean time, the Body needs to hear what the Spirit says.
LoJ
Why the judgemental affirmative definites? There is only one person who can give even the opportunity for this to happen. Only one person who can choose to take that opportunity. All we can do is counsel and advise without a judgemental attitude. I agree it shouldnt be done but would never judge someone who has. No matter the circumstance. What if you were judged on an issue you have. Which if you say you have no issues that would be an issue in itself. I think we all need to trust and hope that our actions would be in the service of our Lord. The next time you take a birth control pill think twice, amen. You are doing the same thing. No trust that God will bring you through. Am I wrong. No, im not. You take birth control and are taking the authority over life or death. You are manipulating life or not life. You are trying to play God for the benefit of your pleasure. Hmmmm something to think about huh?
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All I can say is that we should always choose life. If people do abort, thankfully the Lord does forgive. But it can be difficult for people to forgive themselves.
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Abortion is ALWAYS wrong. God is the only one who should decided when its a person's time to die. But humans like to intervien. I've had abortions and I know from experience the heartbreak it brings. But I also know God's unconditional love and forgiveness.
Yes there are other options, such as raising the baby and adoption. And no, adoption isn't wrong. There is help available to for the women who decide to parent their babies. Adoption is a very loving, sacrificial choice and there are such things as open adoptions now. You can also choose the birth parents. So its a very good thing.
Yes there are other options, such as raising the baby and adoption. And no, adoption isn't wrong. There is help available to for the women who decide to parent their babies. Adoption is a very loving, sacrificial choice and there are such things as open adoptions now. You can also choose the birth parents. So its a very good thing.
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I did not cast a vote in this poll because the poll excluded the only condition in which I believe abortion can be justified - if the mother's physical health would be endangered by continuing the pregnancy.
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This is a subject that I am incredibly torn on. I believe it's possible to be both pro-choice and pro-life. Do I personally support it, especially considering my beliefs? No, not necessarily but I do think it's important for the choice to be out there. Regardless of whether abortion is right/moral and legal/illegal, it's going to be something that will always exist. I guess when I look at it, I figure if women are going to do it, they should do it safely with a doctor.
That is an incredibly valid point.
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No. Not. Never.
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God Calls Abortion Murder
In Gods eyes to abort a baby is to murder - kill a precious little kid who has never harmed anyone.
Also abortion is big bucks to certain companies and pharmacies which either produce or have their fingers in much of the money made from fetus products.
Jeremiah 1:5 (KJV)
5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
God ordains all children to live.
In Gods eyes to abort a baby is to murder - kill a precious little kid who has never harmed anyone.
Also abortion is big bucks to certain companies and pharmacies which either produce or have their fingers in much of the money made from fetus products.
Jeremiah 1:5 (KJV)
5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
God ordains all children to live.
