Is it correct to call the Holy spirit "Lord"?

[Garee]

I & scripture disagree with your assessment because Jesus is the Light sent into the world and John the Baptist was sent to bear witness of Jesus as that Light that lighteth every man.

The word of God empowered by the father .(God is light) It worked in the Son of man, Jesus ( a reflection of the true light God ) This is in the same way the Moon reflects the light or power of the Sun which seems is the reason for creating the two as a witness to one light or power . Its most likely why we are called children of light holding out the gospel of light. Just as our brother in the lord Jesus we hold it out as a reflection

God is not a man we walk by faith . . hearing his understanding is the light unto our feet

I hope that makes sense. to you

John 3:1-10 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

Luke 16:8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.

John 12:36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

Ephesians 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light

2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

 

[th1bill]

The man Christ Jesus is the only Mediator between God and man, 1 Timothy 2:5 That means all prayers are answered by the Son of God so that the Father may be glorified in the Son for answers to prayers John 14:13-14

The Holy Spirit serves as the Spirit of Christ in that whatever He hears from Jesus Christ, He speaks His words to us for the words are not the Spirit's words, but the words of Christ; John 16:13-15

Therefore your response is back to the Son of God, the Bridegroom, for how you are married to God. That is Who the Holy Spirit in you is still pointing you to g to in order to avoid the spirits of the antichrist whereas antichrist as applied in scripture means :instead of Christ" or to be more precise in your case for your correction, "instead of the Son" and so that is wat the spirit of the antichrist will do, in taking your focus off of the Son in your relationship with the Father.

So stop putting the spotlight on the Holy Spirit Who dwells in us because that visiting phenomenon that makes their presence known outside of us with signs & lying wonders is not the Holy Spirit when He has been dwelling within us since salvation at the calling of the gospel for why there is no necessity for the Holy Spirit to be felt outside of us where the spirits of the antichrist dwells. ( 1 John 4:1-4 & John 14:17 & 2 Corinthians 13:5 )

The real holy Spirit is not leading you to put the spotlight on Himself nor come in between you & Jesus when He is serving as the Spirit of Christ so you can relate to the Bridegroom, the Lord Jesus Christ. Only the spirits of the antichrist wants to get in between you and Jesus to make you follow a stranger's voice, tongues without interpretation ( John 10:1-9 ) and thus assumed in error for private use when it is not of Him at all and neither that spirit that brought that tongue ( Isaiah 8:19 & 1 Timothy 4:1-2 & 1 John 4:1-4 )

Seek His face only; in living that reconciled relationship with God the father through Jesus Christ because the Bridegroom will be coming soon and unless those astray depart from iniquity, they risk being left behind at the rapture event to die ( Revelation 2:18-25 ) , but their spirits will be with the Lord in heaven ( 2 Corinthians 5:7-11 ) to await their resurrection after the great tribulation ( Revelation 20:4-6 ) as vessels unto dishonor in His House ( 2 Timothy 2:19-21 )..

All good teaching but compliments rather than supplant my post.

 

[GodB4Us]

The word of God empowered by the father .(God is light) It worked in the Son of man, Jesus ( a reflection of the true light God ) This is in the same way the Moon reflects the light or power of the Sun which seems is the reason for creating the two as a witness to one light or power . Its most likely why we are called children of light holding out the gospel of light. Just as our brother in the lord Jesus we hold it out as a reflection

Not what the scripture says because Jesus is the Light.

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

God is not a man

Scripture says that God is not a man that would lie, but that does not mean cutting that verse out of context and say God is not a man when we were created in the image & likeness of God.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Whose image and likeness were we created after? God's.

There are no scripture for you to apply as if Jesus is just a reflection of the light of the Father when Jesus IS the true Light and man was created after His image and His likeness.

 

[GodB4Us]

All good teaching but compliments rather than supplant my post.

Your post about Ruah aka the Holy Spirit, as the means we can communicate to God by needs clarification so as not to infer nor imply that tongues for private use is of God to be used to communicate to God by way of the "Spirit" when it is not.

We have access to God the Father because of our seal of adoption, the Holy Spirit, by which we can cry Abba Father, but that does not mean we communicate directly to God through "Ruah" when the Son is the only way to come to God the Father by because of the Son serving as our only Mediator between God and men. So let us also honor the Son in that way if we truly wish to honor the Father by, because climbing up any other way will only wind up following the voice of stranger, tongues for private use, just as it is the spirit of the antichrist ( instead of Christ ) that comes in between us & the Bridegroom, is a thief.

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.....5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers..... 7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

The Holy Spirit in us serves as the Spirit of Christ in conveying His words to us but our actual response is back to the Bridegroom directly, not to the Spirit nor back to the Bridegroom by way of the Spirit when the Holy Spirit can only speak what He hears per John 16:13 and therefore cannot turn God's gift of tongues around for speaking unto the people ( 1 Corinthians 14:20-21 ) for His own use as if able to utter His intercessions to God when He cannot do that per John 16:13

John 16:.13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The KJV and a few other Bible versions has it right in keeping the truth in His words of John 16:13 in all Bible versions because the Holy Spirit cannot even utter His own groanings.

Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

That is why the "he" in verse 27 is Jesus Christ since He is the One that searches our hearts per Hebrews 4:12-16 and so He is the One that knows the mind of the Spirit to give His silent intercessions to the Father for the Holy Spirit which is in according to the will of God because there is only one Mediator between God and men when Jesus is the One that answers prayers so the Father may be glorified in the Son for answers to prayers.

John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

So that was the reason for supplanting your post as some may see your post as validating God's gift of tongues for private use when it is not a language of men but gibberish nonsense as found in the occult. Isaiah 8:19 & 1 Timothy 4:1

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

25 Brethren, pray for us.

The Holy Spirit makes silent intercessions for each & every believer but we are instructed to pray ourselves regardless, for why God would not use the Holy Spirit to pray out loud for us in that way so that we know what we had prayed for in our language so we may give the Father genuine & heartfelt thanks in Jesus's name in our language for answers to prayers.

1 Thessalonians 5:17 Pray without ceasing. 18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

 

[Garee]

Not what the scripture says because Jesus is the Light.

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Hi thanks for the reply.

Perhaps reading it slower.. .?

It does not say that the Son of man, Jesus was the light as eternal Spirit God . God the Holy Spirit of Truth is not a man (creation)

God is Light as the Spirit that works in mankind revealing himself to us yoked with him. The simplicity of the gospel light that works in us.

Jesu the Son of man like John were sent as witness of the true light. (God who is not a man) . Again just as the moon reflects the light or power of the Sun.

Remember the first three days the shekinah glory was literally the light of the whole world. God would hide his glory at night . On day 4 after discovering pride in the heart of Lucifer. He created the two as a one witness "day (Sun) and night. (Moon) "

Jesus the chief apostle/ prophet in that way is considered our brother in the Lord calling no man Father on earth. We are considered sons of God children of light.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

The family of light reflectors (Christians)

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother

In that way the heavens (Sun and Moon ) declare the glory of God but his living word reveals the mystery of the Sun and the Moon.

The glory trail the light unto our path lamp to our moving feet shod with the gospel of light . They will become one brighter light on the last day under the "Sun and Moon" .(the corruption time keepers.. winding down to the last day under the Sun.

Revelation21:22-22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Two become one revealing witness .Two throughout the bible represents the witness of God. Two greater than the witness of men.. one.

Isaiah 61:2 Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the Lord shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.

In that way I would offer God will not share his creative glory with corrupted mankind . God is not served by humans hands as a will in any way shape or form .

 

[th1bill]

You're correct in saying that we call Jesus Lord....Jesus is our Lord but He is God, the same as the Father is God, the same as the Holy Spirit is God....They are one...Therefore you can also claim rightlly that you have the Trinity residing in you...else you got gyped,,,You invited Jesus into your heart and only got the Holy Spirit? You wound up with God in your heart....Call Him Lord

Where in the scriptures is this specific theology taught?

 

[GodB4Us]

Where in the scriptures is this specific theology taught?

May Jesus help you set your belief aside and pay attention to His words.

If the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost were the same Person, then explain the plural pronouns used in verse 23;

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

If they were the same Person then why would Jesus say that His words were not His words but the Father's in verse 24?

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

If the Son was the same as the Holy Ghost, why is the Holy Ghost referred to as a separate Person from Himself in doing the job of bringing into remembrance all things said unto His disciples by Jesus once He was no longer present with them but have gone ascended to the Father? Why not say I will remind you instead?

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

[GodB4Us]

Hi thanks for the reply.

Perhaps reading it slower.. .?

If reading slower is not helping you, why would that help me?

You need to address the scripture that directly testified to Jesus being that Light because your inference that Jesus is a reflection of the Father as that Father is being that Light is not found in scripture.

Since Jesus's words are from the Father then what does that mean for you to take the words of the Father & turn it around to be about the Father rather than the Son being the Light when the words of the Father says Jesus is the true Light?

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

[Garee]

You need to address the scripture that directly testified to Jesus being that Light because your inference that Jesus is a reflection of the Father as that Father is being that Light is not found in scripture.

No such thing as the Son of man Jesus, living in a earthen body of death as the one bright light that enlightens of the children of light . You will not find such a idea in the Bible

That would be like saying the Moon is the light source and the Sun a reflection .

Jesus said not as he wills but the father the source of power .

God is not a powerless man .

Jesus is our brother no our powerful father. Call no man on earth father

 

[GodB4Us]

No such thing as the Son of man Jesus, living in a earthen body of death as the one bright light that enlightens of the children of light . You will not find such a idea in the Bible

You keep ignoring scripture that DIRECTLY says otherwise. I am not even going to bold it or highlight it with color because that does not seem to be helping you at all. Either address what was written and show scripture that the Father is that Light and Jesus is the reflection of the Father being that Light or you have to concede that you are going beyond what is written for trying to be "deep" about what the words of the Father says in scripture about Jesus being the true Light.

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

That would be like saying the Moon is the light source and the Sun a reflection .

That is you trying to be deep about scripture with your metaphor and it is not only inappropriate, but it is a sin against God because it is a lie when Scripture says Jesus is that true Light.

Jesus said not as he wills but the father the source of power .

You quoted the first half from scripture but misapplied His words in the second half of your comment. The Father is not the source of Jesus's power when Jesus is God as well as the Holy Ghost for "They" are One. So to rightly applied your first half of your comment, "Jesus said not as he wills but the Father's will be done." and that was in regards to Jesus asking the Father to take away the cup from Him for Him being that ransom for many which the Father did not do as He had asked.

There is no scripture testifying to the Father being the source of Jesus's power, but the Father's will & His words led the Son in testifying to Himself as being God by being One with the Father.

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

30 I and my Father are one.

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

God is not a powerless man .

Neither was Jesus before His incarnation and neither was Jesus after His incarnation while on earth, and certainly was not a powerless man at His resurrection & ascension. The demons, Legion, feared Him as God and rightly so.

Jesus is our brother no our powerful father. Call no man on earth father

Jesus is our brother, but a prophesy in scripture has Him bearing the name as God and thus One with God the Father.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

There is even a prophesy that testify to God Our Redeemer Whom is speaking in that prophesy through Isaiah that the Lord God & His Spirit will send Him.

Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me. 17 Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the Lord thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.

May God deliver you from your errors, brother, for He needs to prune you so you can bear more fruit in the knowledge of Him., but be warned of the consequence for resisting the pruning, thus not being found abiding in Him nor His words.

John 15:1I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. 9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

 

[th1bill]

May Jesus help you set your belief aside and pay attention to His words.

If the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost were the same Person, then explain the plural pronouns used in verse 23;

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

If they were the same Person then why would Jesus say that His words were not His words but the Father's in verse 24?

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

If the Son was the same as the Holy Ghost, why is the Holy Ghost referred to as a separate Person from Himself in doing the job of bringing into remembrance all things said unto His disciples by Jesus once He was no longer present with them but have gone ascended to the Father? Why not say I will remind you instead?

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Thank you, I just never read that to see that teach ing.

 

[GodB4Us]

Thank you, I just never read that to see that teach ing.

I thank the Lord Jesus Christ for you to see that since it is on God to cause the increase.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

May God bless you and keep you. May He shine His face upon you & give you His peace.

 

[Garee]

You keep ignoring scripture that DIRECTLY says otherwise. I am not even going to bold it or highlight it with color because that does not seem to be helping you at all. Either address what was written and show scripture that the Father is that Light and Jesus is the reflection of the Father being that Light or you have to concede that you are going beyond what is written for trying to be "deep" about what the words of the Father says in scripture about Jesus being the true Light.

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

No one is ignoring scripture .God is not a man why try and make him into one ?

God is light and not that he can only create it

Paraphrased ..I would offer. . In the beginning was God (not the son of man, Jesus.) and the word of his power was with God (not the powerless Son of man, Jesus ) .All things were made by God nothing was made by the Son of man .Without God (not the Son of man) was not any thing made that was made. In God and not in the Son of man was the life of God, and the life was the light of men it worked in the Son of man Jesus just as it works in us as sons of God . and the Light, God is Light , he is not the reflection the Son of man God's Holy Spirit shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Why do you think Jesus said his flesh profits for nothing that it is the Spirt islight

John 6: 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

 

[Garee]

That is you trying to be deep about scripture with your metaphor and it is not only inappropriate, but it is a sin against God because it is a lie when Scripture says Jesus is that true Light.

Digging deeper or rightly dividing does not change the simplicity of the gospel it enriches the Gospel revealing the mysteries of faith (the unseen) in parables

Why did on day four did God change the source of light as power from himself to the temporal Sun and moon two lights , One the source or power the other the reflection no power of its own?

What is the purpose of the Sun and Moon doctrine ?

It would appear the use of the two was intentional .He could of created two Suns with the same power . It would seem the weaker vessel the moon represented the Son on man t and the greater light as the source our father in heaven . There are many reference that show the two work together to give one glory

Isaiah 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

Isaiah 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the Lord shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.

 

[GodB4Us]

No one is ignoring scripture .God is not a man why try and make him into one ?

May Jesus help you set your belief aside and pay attention to His words.

If the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost were the same Person within the One God, then explain the plural pronouns used in verse 23;

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

If they were the same Person then why would Jesus say that His words were not His words but the Father's in verse 24?

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

If the Son was the same as the Holy Ghost, why is the Holy Ghost referred to as a separate Person from Himself in doing the job of bringing into remembrance all things said unto His disciples by Jesus once He was no longer present with them but have gone ascended to the Father? Why not say I will remind you instead?

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

His name Emmanuel as God with us should be considered for why man was created in the image & likeness of God, meaning man looks like God for Whom we were created after.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

 

[GodB4Us]

Digging deeper or rightly dividing does not change the simplicity of the gospel it enriches the Gospel revealing the mysteries of faith (the unseen) in parables

We will not only see the invisible King of kings one day, but God the Father also in Heaven where we will not need Jesus to ask for us but go to the Father directly to ask Him face to face.

1 Timothy 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. 17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. 25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

I shall not highlight nor bolden anything because you need His help to see the truth in His words.

Why did on day four did God change the source of light as power from himself to the temporal Sun and moon two lights , One the source or power the other the reflection no power of its own?

What is the purpose of the Sun and Moon doctrine ?

It would appear the use of the two was intentional .He could of created two Suns with the same power . It would seem the weaker vessel the moon represented the Son on man t and the greater light as the source our father in heaven . There are many reference that show the two work together to give one glory

Isaiah 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

Isaiah 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the Lord shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.

Why did the light of the sun and the reflection from the full moon at His crucifixion went out when He took on our sins and had experienced that separation from the Father?

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Mark 15:33 And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour. 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Can that paranormal event of that unexplained darkness at His crucifixion be the effect of our Creator & Redeemer taking on our sins on the cross? I'd say yes.

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Answer these questions about Whom the scripture is testifying of as being that true Light.

Who was John the Baptist was sent to testify of as being that true Light that lighteth every man?

Who was the apostle John testifying of as being the Creator of the world before He had come to dwell among us?

 

[Garee]

We will not only see the invisible King of kings one day, but God the Father also in Heaven where we will not need Jesus to ask for us but go to the Father directly to ask Him face to face.

1 Timothy 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. 17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full. 25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Kings in Israel is the abomination of desolation. Christ is our invisible King of kings, always was, always will be..

Kings in Israel came about because of the atheistic' Jews (fools.. no God in their hearts) They became jealous of the surrounding pagan nations that serve the flesh and not the new born again Spirit of Christ . God reigning from heaven in the hearts of men on earth .

God gave them over to do that which they should not of (demanded a King) until the time of the first century reformation. When Jesus said "It is finished " the one time outward demonstration of the power of the father is finished. When the veil was rent there was no Jewish king sitting in the Holy of Holies
.
Similar to the fictional Wizard of Oz. Big voice to the world but no power Satan fell and could no longer deceive all the nations that God is a Jewish man .

Christ is reining as our invisible King of kings in believers today .

Again it seems you are reading to fast and missing the gospel meaning .

You say we will not only see the invisible King of kings, King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God one day, then offer a verse that shows he is invisible forgetting God is not man or creation . And face to face is in the knowledge of God .God has no form .. Face to face is no different then faith to faith .

The foundation of Kings in Israel (the abomination of desolation) must be looked at .

The Spirit of Christ is reckoned as the lamb of God slain form the very foundation of the world the six days when he did do the unseen work. The three day propmised denonstration of the work finished from the foundation.

The one propmised demonstration of the power of the unseen father was all that was propmised.

The first century reformation "the renting of the vail" occurred over 2000 years ago.

2Corithians 5: 16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

God is not a man.

 

[GodB4Us]

Kings in Israel is the abomination of desolation. Christ is our invisible King of kings, always was, always will be..

Kings in Israel came about because of the atheistic' Jews (fools.. no God in their hearts) They became jealous of the surrounding pagan nations that serve the flesh and not the new born again Spirit of Christ . God reigning from heaven in the hearts of men on earth .

God gave them over to do that which they should not of (demanded a King) until the time of the first century reformation. When Jesus said "It is finished " the one time outward demonstration of the power of the father is finished. When the veil was rent there was no Jewish king sitting in the Holy of Holies
.
Similar to the fictional Wizard of Oz. Big voice to the world but no power Satan fell and could no longer deceive all the nations that God is a Jewish man .

Christ is reining as our invisible King of kings in believers today .

Again it seems you are reading to fast and missing the gospel meaning .

You say we will not only see the invisible King of kings, King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God one day, then offer a verse that shows he is invisible forgetting God is not man or creation . And face to face is in the knowledge of God .God has no form .. Face to face is no different then faith to faith .

The foundation of Kings in Israel (the abomination of desolation) must be looked at .

The Spirit of Christ is reckoned as the lamb of God slain form the very foundation of the world the six days when he did do the unseen work. The three day propmised denonstration of the work finished from the foundation.

The one propmised demonstration of the power of the unseen father was all that was propmised.

The first century reformation "the renting of the vail" occurred over 2000 years ago.

2Corithians 5: 16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

God is not a man.

How do you apply this scripture?

1 Corinthians 8:4-6, "There is no God but one. For even if there are so- called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many `gods' and many `lords'), yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."

Are the many gods and many lords indicative as referring to deities?

Is by referring to One God and One Lord is the same One God as the One Lord God in order to defer from the many gods and the many lords?

 

[God's Truth]

Should we call the Holy spirit "Lord"?--Because from my understanding the Holy spirit is the presence of Christ within us Born again believers-- even the presence of God.

Also explain the nature of God-- or the "Trinity" as most christian s call the Godhead.

Thank you,
Warm regards!

Yes, we can call the Holy Spirit "Lord"! The Holy Spirit is Jesus. The scriptures say so. They are one and the same.

I can give you scriptures where Jesus is called the Spirit, many times.

 

[God's Truth]

I doubt you will get into any trouble with God. I typically call the Father and Jesus, Lord. The Holy Spirit, I just typically ask for help, lol.

lol Right, and they are the same anyway!