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Is it correct to call the Holy spirit "Lord"?

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I hope you can answer my questions then!

God doesn't give understanding to someone just because they read the Bible many times.

God gives understanding to those who obey Him.

Proverbs 1:23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings.

Psalm 119:100 I have more understanding than the elders, for I obey your precepts.

Daniel 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.

John 8:30 Even as he spoke, many believed in him. 31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
Let me say this, if GOD is Your Father! If you got a question go ask Him! I ain’t your Daddy! If GOD is your FATHER go to Him not me!
I ain’t GOD he Got The Andwers!

I ain’t no fool. I know who My FATHER is! And Guess what,

“The LORD is My Shepherd and I have no Other Needs”

Are you listening, do you have The Ears to Hear?

I cannot, make it any Any Clearer to a “finite mind”!

Evidently you need to improve your relationship With your Daddy! “Abba” Father”

Honestly, where y’all been? On a “Rip Van Winkel” trip? That grade school kindergarten materials you are discussing in “Retirement age” stuff we settle over 1500 years ago! I cannot believe y’all.

Have y’all been sleep. It was term we use to use “Asleep in The Light”. Now honestly what was you talking about 40 years ago or 30 years concerning your biblical studies? Are you still at the same grade level?
 
Answer then.

Is the Father God a Spirit?
Stop asking me with Nonsense questions for 5 graders and ask your Father which art heaven. I think I have told you, I am not your teacher. Ok, so don’t play me. And I am real, and I do make statements. And we will get along alright!
 
I hope you can answer my questions then!

God doesn't give understanding to someone just because they read the Bible many times.

God gives understanding to those who obey Him.

Proverbs 1:23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings.

Psalm 119:100 I have more understanding than the elders, for I obey your precepts.

Daniel 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.

John 8:30 Even as he spoke, many believed in him. 31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
Plus may I say this also he chose me and I didn’t choose him, Like Paul, I was on my way to Damacus like Paul! I had what The Presbytery call it a “Miraculous conversion” I did experience a “Theophany” they said it not me. I learn a lot, Through “Theology Proper” that a layman can or will not understand about “The TRIUNE GOD”.
 
Let me say this, if GOD is Your Father! If you got a question go ask Him! I ain’t your Daddy! If GOD is your FATHER go to Him not me!
I ain’t GOD he Got The Andwers!

I ain’t no fool. I know who My FATHER is! And Guess what,

“The LORD is My Shepherd and I have no Other Needs”

Are you listening, do you have The Ears to Hear?

I cannot, make it any Any Clearer to a “finite mind”!

Evidently you need to improve your relationship With your Daddy! “Abba” Father”

Honestly, where y’all been? On a “Rip Van Winkel” trip? That grade school kindergarten materials you are discussing in “Retirement age” stuff we settle over 1500 years ago! I cannot believe y’all.

Have y’all been sleep. It was term we use to use “Asleep in The Light”. Now honestly what was you talking about 40 years ago or 30 years concerning your biblical studies? Are you still at the same grade level?
God says He is the Father of those who obey Him.
He says to be ready to give an answer.
You didn't give an answer to a simple question.
 
Stop asking me with Nonsense questions for 5 graders and ask your Father which art heaven. I think I have told you, I am not your teacher. Ok, so don’t play me. And I am real, and I do make statements. And we will get along alright!
You said the Holy Spirit is not God.
I am just trying to help you to know Him better.

The Holy Spirit is God the Father.
 
Plus may I say this also he chose me and I didn’t choose him, Like Paul, I was on my way to Damacus like Paul! I had what The Presbytery call it a “Miraculous conversion” I did experience a “Theophany” they said it not me. I learn a lot, Through “Theology Proper” that a layman can or will not understand about “The TRIUNE GOD”.
Those who want to be saved have to obey Jesus and repent of their sins, just like Paul did.
 
Those who want to be saved have to obey Jesus and repent of their sins, just like Paul did.
Ok stop it with your kindergarten grade school playground Antics!
The Title of This Thread is which is a question.

“Is it correct to call the Holy spirit "Lord"?”​

So let us not continually being rude. And keep our address to the Thread in Question.
 
I gather the question...
"Is it correct to call the Holy spirit "Lord"?

Is an attempt to prove or disprove the trinity based of the deity of the Holy Spirit.

2Cor 4:4; in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Yet Satan is called "the god of this world". Does that make him divine?

2Cor 3:17; Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Cor 3:18; But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.

John 4:24; "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Luke 1:35; The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.

1Cor 3:16; Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
 
Please look to see how the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ.
Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are one God. There is only one God. Hosea 13:4

But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Romans 8:9-11 NKJV

To the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:

“You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
They will perish, but You remain;
And they will all grow old like a garment;
Like a cloak You will fold them up,
And they will be changed.
But You are the same,
And Your years will not fail.”
Hebrews 1:8-12 NKJV
 
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There is only one God. Often expressed as the Lord your God.

For God and Lord are the same and not separate.

For whom the LORD loves He corrects, Just as a father the son in whom he delights. Proverbs 3:12

Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:3

Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:17
 
I gather the question...
"Is it correct to call the Holy spirit "Lord"?

Is an attempt to prove or disprove the trinity based of the deity of the Holy Spirit.

2Cor 4:4; in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Yet Satan is called "the god of this world". Does that make him divine?

2Cor 3:17; Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
2Cor 3:18; But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.

John 4:24; "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

Luke 1:35; The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.

1Cor 3:16; Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
I have mentioned already but many are dull of hearing and have a lack of reading and understanding even of the simple.

And I am not anyones teacher but I know How to read a Good and Excellent “English Translation” of The Original Copied Manuscript of The Original Manuscript !

I know the difference. Between the words “spirit”, “Spirit”,, “SPIRIT”, “lord”, “Lord” “LORD”, GOD, “God”, “god”, “ALMIGHTY GOD”, “THE LORD GOD”, The SON of GOD, and how The Translation lay it in A Translation. And in the context of The Text of Holy Scripture.

For GOD is a spirit! And HIS presence IS everywhere!

For THE SON of GOD is a spirit and His “spirit” is everywhere!

For The “PARAKLETOS “ is a spirit and His spirit goes where The “LORD GOD” sends Him!

The devil is a “spirit”, that needs permission to do everything he does!

All Angels are “spirits” and not humans and “JESUS is A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT”. “The SECOND ADAM”!

Now I can go all night Long concerning The English translated words of the Bible and how the words are used by there Arrangements.

I was young Dumb and Stupid concerning the bible! When I was converted! So I had to learn HOW to read a Bible! I had to learn exactly what a “paraphrase was. What a Translation was, The difference between a translation and a “word for word” translation was. And How to read them and for what purposes of understanding. And what kind of dictionaries to use. “ collegiate“, an “ unabridged dictionary “, “ISBE”, Encyclopedia set! “Vines” Dictionary of New Testament Words. So just to Define one simple word would sometimes take days or hours to Exhaust that plain or Biblical word! That is recorded in The Book! By doing so you learn How to Read a translation of The Biblical Original Text of Scripture with The aid of “The Parakletos”. The Other “Advocate” as Jesus described.
And That Advocated empower you,[pneumatic]

I learn how to read a translation, I learn how to Translate The Original Copied Manuscript into English language!
The Hebrew and Koine Greek!
And again by The aid of The Parakletos with Many Tears and wailing! Sleepless nights strong Prayers! Night noon mornings and all through the day for many years. Everyday! Dictionaries and bibles in all cars and trucks in every bathroom in he house , every room a excellent bible. Small library on every floor and the basement full library bibles from the 16th century to the 21 century, Dictionaries all kinds Bible dictionaries and 2 sets of bible Encyclopedias. I might be studying the Holy Spirit of GOD for 3 To 4 days on one Biblical word. Since the definition is very Exhausting. The biblical definition for the “Holy SPIRIT “ of GOD is about 3 To 4 pages long!

And GOD’S spirit maybe about 3-4 pages long. And you do need a dictionary to read a dictionary.:pensive: And I ain’t talking about a “Lexicon” at this point!

So don’t count me short, I was young Ignorant and Dumb about how to read the Bible and knew it and confess it to GOD with tears and loud crying! And ask HIM to Teach me how to read The Bible year after years everyday! Until one day I was amazed, I know how to read this book! I was surprised of all of the Pastors asking me questions and where to locate portion of Scripture on the spot and I could do it and give biblical “Lectures” concerning the Biblical text of “Holy Scripture”. A great gift it was: “Bible Introduction 101” at a Reformed Bible College” and The class “Methodology and hermeneutics” The Art of “Biblical Interpretations” and all the forms that people used. So in essence you had a choice which route you would choose since you nowknow the difference routes.

So you choose not your church or pastor or your college professor! And you have a “Parakletos” for a guide in your choice.

I was Dumb and stupid when I was converted and a mere baby, wearing diapers! And I was a excellent reader before conversion! but I was not taught by GOD on how to read a Bible!
 
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PS. And The Three are one! 1x1x1= 1 in Divinity terms. And each 1 is Different than the other 1 in 1x1x1 but in still there are 3 ONE’S that equals 1 and they are in Agreement.
Now that is simple, if one is confuse about about 3 in 1 [ like the oil called 3 in 1 Oil] which each one is different but yet Unique. Now even a finite mind can understands that in the 5th grade.

Now isn’t that easy?

PS. How you like that “3 in 1 oil”. Make you kinda of think about “The Father The SON The Holy Ghost, “Holy Oil” and they are in agreement about that “OIL”:eyes:

Have you ever did a “Oil” study how oil is applied in The Bible?
An Exhaust “One”!

Wow there goes that “One” again.

NASB 1977
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.”

Why would anyone would want to refer to the “Holy Spirit of GOD” or call him Lord any how? Now that is a Disturbing thought and out The Box. For me. Now I am talking about myself. That hat don’t fit :eyes:
 
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My friend...I do have a brain disease that causes me to say things in a crazy way at times...We are agreed. Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit ARE all one.

Jesus like Joshua or Jehovah are simply words to represent the one word savior .

Jesus as the Son of man was used in a outward display or parable to the world in a hope of drawing mankind to his mighty faith as it is written. The faithful power of God unto salvation

Our Father not seen is a savior (Jesus) or under the attribute Jehovah Almighty God is also become the savior (Jesus )of the world .

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

Jesus as the Son of man the propmised sign or demonstration of the lamb who was slain during the 6 days God was working. And Jesus or savior as Jehovah. to provide the witness of God .

Two greater than the witness of one fallen mankind with no vision of the future or past as it is writen, Prophecy .

According to the doctrine of the witness of God . Two is used through the word to represent the greater witness . Three denoted the end of a matter in parables .

Deuteronomy 17:6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, (the end o f the matter.) shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

2 Corinthians 13:1 This is the third time (last) I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

John 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
 
I was young Dumb and Stupid concerning the bible! When I was converted! So I had to learn HOW to read a Bible! I had to learn exactly what a “paraphrase was. What a Translation was, The difference between a translation and a “word for word” translation was. And How to read them and for what purposes of understanding. And what kind of dictionaries to use. “ collegiate“, an “ unabridged dictionary “, “ISBE”, Encyclopedia set! “Vines” Dictionary of New Testament Words. So just to Define one simple word would sometimes take days or hours to Exhaust that plain or Biblical word! That is recorded in The Book! By doing so you learn How to Read a translation of The Biblical Original Text of Scripture with The aid of “The Parakletos”. The Other “Advocate” as Jesus described.
And That Advocated empower you,[pneumatic]

Para = come along side .

Most Christian have looked into others personal commentaries of what they believe the Holy Spirit the one advocate that comes along side (para forming the word Paraclete) the one advocate not seen . Without parables the Paraclete' spoke not .

Parables the poetic tongue of God's song , as prophecy.

Zephaniah 3:17 The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.

Those who have not the singing poetic understanding of parables or called hidden manna . They sing their own understanding as different kind of song . Not of the supernatural genre

Luke 7:31-33King James Version And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like? They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept. For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.

Psalm 30:4 Sing unto the Lord, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.

 
Para = come along side .

Most Christian have looked into others personal commentaries of what they believe the Holy Spirit the one advocate that comes along side (para forming the word Paraclete) the one advocate not seen . Without parables the Paraclete' spoke not .

Parables the poetic tongue of God's song , as prophecy.

Zephaniah 3:17 The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.

Those who have not the singing poetic understanding of parables or called hidden manna . They sing their own understanding as different kind of song . Not of the supernatural genre

Luke 7:31-33King James Version And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like? They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept. For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.

Psalm 30:4 Sing unto the Lord, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.

Most Christian’s can believe what they want to believe I don’t care what they believe. But I know about myself and what I believe, what “The Holy Scripture” teaches, because at “The Bema Seat” I will be judge not what another Christian believe, it will be “What Did I TeLL you”! And That is “The ROCK” I Will stand On! Just like “ADAM” said: “It Was That WOman, YOU Gave Me! [ I DID Not Pick her, YOU Gave Her To Me!]!:joy:

For another thing I ain’t a Christian! So do not put that label on me!
Like I said; He Said to me! “WHAT did I TELL you! [in a Stentorian Tone]. That drowns out, ALL! “if you ain’t Been There, you have no idea what that mean”! And I cannot explain it to you! And I do not care, if you understand it or Not! I got The Message!:joy: And HE ain’t got to Tell me TWICE!

I am like a Rock that cannot be Move!:joy:

If any other Angel devil or demon, Micheal or Gabriel bring me any other message I ain’t going for it!:worried: They are wasting Their “Angelic breath”!

“When THE FATHER Speaks” The Rocks and Mountains. shake and want to Hide, But there is No Where to GO!

You see There is Nothing Between me and “GOD”, no church no Christianity no pope no pastor no Institutions no woman!

There is only One in between and HE has open The Door to The FATHER and The FATHER Walks in! Do not Think , The FATHER is going ask you, can HE Come In.:eyes:
THE FATHER, you better think again.

Jesus said: My FATHER is Greater than Me!:eyes:
 
New American Standard Bible
You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away, and I am coming to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

King James Bible
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
[ The Anointed One Of GOD Jesus].

NASB 1977
“All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son, except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father, except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. :eyes:

You might have experienced The Anointing of the “Holy Ghost”. And afterwards experience “Jesus as Your Saviour” and Then under Strict Obedience and HE has Become your “LORD & MASTER” meaning a OBEDIENT “Bond Slave”!
Being prepared. To Be Introduce To “THE FATHER”!

And this “TRUTH” Eludes the unfaithful within The Faith but it does not Interrupts your Final destination unto “Salvation”!

But this means nothing to many of Christians because of Their un-Believeth regarding The Unadulterated truth, of “The Gospel According to Jesus The Anointed of GOD THE FATHER” meaning The Whole Counsel of THE Only TRUE GOD!
 
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Ok stop it with your kindergarten grade school playground Antics!
The Title of This Thread is which is a question.

“Is it correct to call the Holy spirit "Lord"?”​

So let us not continually being rude. And keep our address to the Thread in Question.
You don't keep to the thread in question, you answer no questions about the thread but say a lot about yourself. Is that the thread topic?
 
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