Is it correct to call the Holy spirit "Lord"?

[God's Truth]

Yes the Holy Spirit is the Lord.

Right!

 

[God's Truth]

There is only one Spirit that is Holy which holy simply means set aside for a certain work of the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit of God, by God not seen..

Catholiscim or any sect do not have the power to create their own idea of saints . They have 3500 and rising what they call patron saints named from Rome inspired earthly as disembodied workers with familiar spirits called "the legion."

One is our Holy Father in heaven call no man on earth patron saints (holy fathers )

Is there a thread on this to discuss further? I think we have agreement on that topic.

 

[God's Truth]

@Brad Huber @only son @Garee @callisto80 @DieAmartyr @complete @Jennifer Rogers @Hekuran @Chad @Christ4Ever @ladylovesJesus @AndyX

I believe 2 Corinthians 3:7 has been misapplied below as if we can call the Holy Spirit Lord when in actuality,

WE CAN call the Holy Spirit Lord! The scriptures say the Lord IS the Spirit.

So Who do you think the Holy Spirit would lead you to testify of as to Who is Lord to the glory of God the Father? Not Himself, but the Lord Jesus Christ.

They are the same.
John 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

May we be led by the scripture & the Spirit to do the same rather than by a false Nicene creed of 381 A.D. that teaches the practice of worshiping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son..

What?!!! You are a trinitarian and you go against a Nicene creed? Don't worship the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit IS the Spirit of God, and IS the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[God's Truth]

U are very correct B-A-C

There is only ONE SPIRIT. The Father is the Spirit, and the Spirit within Jesus is the Spirit of the Father, and the Holy Spirit is that same Spirit.
The trinity doctrine is false, for the say the Father is a Spirit and the Son has a different Spirit and the Holy Spirit is yet another different Spirit.

 

[God's Truth]

Of course its proper..The Holy Spirit is God!!

Yes!

 

[God's Truth]

You're correct in saying that we call Jesus Lord....Jesus is our Lord but He is God, the same as the Father is God, the same as the Holy Spirit is God....They are one...Therefore you can also claim rightlly that you have the Trinity residing in you...else you got gyped,,,You invited Jesus into your heart and only got the Holy Spirit? You wound up with God in your heart....Call Him Lord

Sounds like you have some confusion, for you were doing well, but now it sounds like you don't know the trinity doctrine says the Father is a Spirit and that Jesus is ANOTHER Spirit and the Holy Spirit is yet ANOTHER DIFFERENT Spirit.
I believe there are three, but not three different Spirit as the trinitarian doctrine says. A lot of people that know and believe there are three automatically call themselves trinitarians but don't really understand what the trinitarians teach.

 

[GodB4Us]

WE CAN call the Holy Spirit Lord! The scriptures say the Lord IS the Spirit.

The Lord is "that" Spirit as being the Spirit of the Lord.

2 Corinthians 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

The Spirit of the Lord has no face and so the Spirit of the Lord as it is the Lord Jesus Christ that shall finish His work in us to His glory thus the Son as Lord will change us to behold the face of the Lord Jesus Christ.

They are the same.
John 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Do take note of the verse you quoted above in how the Holy Spirit shall glorify the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, as everything the Spirit does as the spirit of the Lord comes from the Lord Jesus Christ for why the Holy Spirit will defer all credit & glory of what the Holy Spirit does in giving it to the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ?

What?!!! You are a trinitarian and you go against a Nicene creed? Don't worship the Holy Spirit? The Holy Spirit IS the Spirit of God, and IS the Lord Jesus Christ.

We are not led by the Holy Spirit to honor Himself in testifying of Himself in seeking His own glory. We are led by the indwelling holy Spirit to honor the son by testifying of the Son in seeking His glory whereas the spirits of the antichrist will take your eyes off of the Son in worship to chasing after them for signs and lying wonders per their visitations.

Slain in the spirit, holy laughter movement, and all such so called movement of the "spirit" is not the Holy Spirit and yet when they focus on the Holy Spirit and those phenomenon comes or because of the phenomenon, they focus on the Holy Spirit to invoke those phenomenon again... what say ye then? Why would God allow the devil to respond when focus is on the Holy Spirit? because of the iniquity of approaching God the Father by another way than the One provided, the Son.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber..... 7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

The Holy spirit serves as the Spirit of Christ between the Bridegroom & us, but our response and focus is back to the Bridegroom, the Lord Jesus Christ if we seek to live that reconciled relationship with God the Father thru Jesus Christ..

There are many sinners in the world that relates to spirits in idolatries, world religions, and the occult and the only way to reconciled them in calling them away from those spirits and those rudiments in the world is by providing only one way to come to God the Father by and that is by the Son.

There are no invitations to come to the holy Spirit, but to the Son in coming to God the Father by and for eternal life by believing in Jesus Christ. Any other way, even if it is the Holy Spirit, we are not led by the Spirit of Christ to do that.

 

[God's Truth]

The Lord is "that" Spirit as being the Spirit of the Lord.

2 Corinthians 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

The Spirit of the Lord has no face and so the Spirit of the Lord as it is the Lord Jesus Christ that shall finish His work in us to His glory thus the Son as Lord will change us to behold the face of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Do take note of the verse you quoted above in how the Holy Spirit shall glorify the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, as everything the Spirit does as the spirit of the Lord comes from the Lord Jesus Christ for why the Holy Spirit will defer all credit & glory of what the Holy Spirit does in giving it to the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ?

We are not led by the Holy Spirit to honor Himself in testifying of Himself in seeking His own glory. We are led by the indwelling holy Spirit to honor the son by testifying of the Son in seeking His glory whereas the spirits of the antichrist will take your eyes off of the Son in worship to chasing after them for signs and lying wonders per their visitations.

Slain in the spirit, holy laughter movement, and all such so called movement of the "spirit" is not the Holy Spirit and yet when they focus on the Holy Spirit and those phenomenon comes or because of the phenomenon, they focus on the Holy Spirit to invoke those phenomenon again... what say ye then? Why would God allow the devil to respond when focus is on the Holy Spirit? because of the iniquity of approaching God the Father by another way than the One provided, the Son.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber..... 7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

The Holy spirit serves as the Spirit of Christ between the Bridegroom & us, but our response and focus is back to the Bridegroom, the Lord Jesus Christ if we seek to live that reconciled relationship with God the Father thru Jesus Christ..

There are many sinners in the world that relates to spirits in idolatries, world religions, and the occult and the only way to reconciled them in calling them away from those spirits and those rudiments in the world is by providing only one way to come to God the Father by and that is by the Son.

There are no invitations to come to the holy Spirit, but to the Son in coming to God the Father by and for eternal life by believing in Jesus Christ. Any other way, even if it is the Holy Spirit, we are not led by the Spirit of Christ to do that.

There is only one divine Spirit.
The Father is a Spirit.
Jesus' Spirit is the Spirit of the Father.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is God the Father.
There are three and the three are the same one.

 

[God's Truth]

One Divine Spirit:

1. 1 Corinthians 6:17
   But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
   
   
2. 1 Corinthians 12:13
   For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
   
   
3. Ephesians 2:18
   For through him we both have access by one Spiritunto the Father.
   
   
4. Ephesians 4:4
   There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
   
   
5. Philippians 1:27
   Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

One Spirit and not three different Spirits that the trinity doctrine teaches.

 

[GodB4Us]

There is One Spirit but also Two Celestial Bodies within that Godhead; the Father & the Son.

And the role of the Holy Spirit is to not speak of Himself but of the Son in testifying of the Son in seeking the glory of the Son and not His own glory, and the Spirit does that through us in ministry and that has to include how we are led by the Spirit of God to worship the Son of God which is to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father, That is the mind of Christ we are to have in worship per Philippians 2:5-13 KJV

 

[God's Truth]

There is One Spirit but also Two Celestial Bodies within that Godhead; the Father & the Son.

"Two Celestial Bodies within the Godhead"? You claim those two celestial bodies don't have a Spirit!

The SCRIPTURES SAY God is a Spirit. YOU SAY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A DIFFERENT SPIRIT!
Stop with your confusion.
Don't act like you are correcting me when you are saying exactly what I say you believe.

And the role of the Holy Spirit is to not speak of Himself but of the Son in testifying of the Son in seeking the glory of the Son and not His own glory, and the Spirit does that through us in ministry and that has to include how we are led by the Spirit of God to worship the Son of God which is to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father, That is the mind of Christ we are to have in worship per Philippians 2:5-13 KJV

No such thing what you say.
To have the mind of Christ is to have an obedient mind to the one and only Spirit who is God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

 

[GodB4Us]

"Two Celestial Bodies within the Godhead"? You claim those two celestial bodies don't have a Spirit!

The Father & the Son is of the Godhead whereby the Son made the request for man to make after our image and after our likeness and so when the Father agreed along with the Holy Spirit in compliance, the Word of God created man in His image and after His likeness. man was created after the image of God which the Father & the Son both share in that image that man was created after.

The SCRIPTURES SAY God is a Spirit.

What Jesus said to the Samaritan woman was about God being Omnipresence and thus no longer confined to the Temple at Jerusalem nor the mountains for the Samaritans now that Jesus was there, for how believers can come to God the Father anywhere which is by honoring only the Son in worship ( John 14:6 & John 5:22-23 KJV ) since the glory of God the Father rests on His Son. John 13:31-32 KJV

YOU SAY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A DIFFERENT SPIRIT!
Stop with your confusion.
Don't act like you are correcting me when you are saying exactly what I say you believe.

The Father is not the Son and is not the Holy Spirit but They are Three witnesses within the Godhead. This is how God can establish a word in creation and judge any one because there are 3 Witnesses within the One God.

No such thing what you say.
To have the mind of Christ is to have an obedient mind to the one and only Spirit who is God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

Then explain the God men had seen in the O.T. that appeared as a man the very image of God that man was created after? And Jesus did testify that He was that God men had seen in the O.T. Jesus The God That Men Had Seen In The O.T.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Sounds like you have some confusion, for you were doing well, but now it sounds like you don't know the trinity doctrine says the Father is a Spirit and that Jesus is ANOTHER Spirit and the Holy Spirit is yet ANOTHER DIFFERENT Spirit.
I believe there are three, but not three different Spirit as the trinitarian doctrine says. A lot of people that know and believe there are three automatically call themselves trinitarians but don't really understand what the trinitarians teach.

My friend...I do have a brain disease that causes me to say things in a crazy way at times...We are agreed. Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit ARE all one.

 

[GodB4Us]

My friend...I do have a brain disease that causes me to say things in a crazy way at times...We are agreed. Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit ARE all one.

God's Truth believes God is One Person and although he does not like this analogy, to me, he has God wearing 3 different hats. And he should not like that analogy but that is what he is doing for why he should not like saying God is One Person.

And as for having a brain disease, wisdom comes from the Lord and you can trust Him as your Good Shepherd to enable you to receive wisdom & answers you seek from Him because all those that seek, shall find; His word to you, brother.

Since the Holy Spirit would not lead us to testify of Himself to seek His own glory but of the Son and His glory, then the Spirit of the Lord would lead us to exalt Jesus Christ as Lord to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:5-11

 

[God's Truth]

My friend...I do have a brain disease that causes me to say things in a crazy way at times...We are agreed. Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit ARE all one.

So sorry to hear about your brain disease.
It sounded so good to hear you say the Holy Spirit is God, it is not something one usually hears.

 

[God's Truth]

God's Truth believes God is One Person and although he does not like this analogy, to me, he has God wearing 3 different hats. And he should not like that analogy but that is what he is doing for why he should not like saying God is One Person.

There is only one God, one Spirit, and one body. There are not three different persons with three different Spirits as you say.

And as for having a brain disease, wisdom comes from the Lord and you can trust Him as your Good Shepherd to enable you to receive wisdom & answers you seek from Him because all those that seek, shall find; His word to you, brother.

Since the Holy Spirit would not lead us to testify of Himself to seek His own glory but of the Son and His glory, then the Spirit of the Lord would lead us to exalt Jesus Christ as Lord to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:5-11

The Holy Spirit is God the Father and Jesus. They are the same one Spirit.

 

[PloughBoy]

For 1, The Spirit of GOD is “The Parakletos” The other “Advocate”
The Spirit of GOD is Not Our Master meaning [LORD]!

2. We only Have “One LORD”!

3. Again, The Holy Soirit is not Our “MASTER”! So how can any one come with such a idea to even think of such Nonsense!

Unless some are ignorant of The Definition of The Biblical word in all caps in the English “Translation of The “Original Copied Manuscript” or they have a cheap Bible translation. Without the Information in the Introduction page of That Particular translation to inform them how to read that Particular translation of that “English Translation”.

NASB 1977
yet for us there is but ONE GOD, the FATHER, from whom are all things, and we exist FOR Him; and ONE LORD, JESUS CHRIST by whom are all things, and we exist THROUGH Him.”
There is a difference.

If Jesus is The Only LORD how can anyone determine that “The PARAKLETOS” is “LORD” too! “NO WAY”
For many still have no idea what The Biblical Word spelled ,Capital “L O R D” means in the English translation and it is sad.
And Christianity is in a free fall going south.
For so it has been “Prophesies” to do so, by The “Prophets” of old.

I had to say something! Even. If it does not manner.

 

[PloughBoy]

All my biblical centered life, by & reading my bible systematically as a whole I understood the difference between The Father, The SON and The Parakletos of GOD! And I wonder why so many Christian’s have no idea or could understand the difference between The Three but yet one, for the Bible have made it clear as water and clearer than it can be.

Answer: I read the Book over and over again before The Institutionalize church and there leadings got to me!

PS. GOD knew, I didn’t trust none of Them! And I told them after I got converted! I don’t trust none of y’all!

They told me, “Well you got to trust somebody! And I told them it will not be a man! Or a women! O’ I was right! Over 44 years I was right!

 

[God's Truth]

For 1, The Spirit of GOD is “The Parakletos” The other “Advocate”
The Spirit of GOD is Not Our Master meaning [LORD]!

2. We only Have “One LORD”!

3. Again, The Holy Soirit is not Our “MASTER”! So how can any one come with such a idea to even think of such Nonsense!

Unless some are ignorant of The Definition of The Biblical word in all caps in the English “Translation of The “Original Copied Manuscript” or they have a cheap Bible translation. Without the Information in the Introduction page of That Particular translation to inform them how to read that Particular translation of that “English Translation”.

NASB 1977
yet for us there is but ONE GOD, the FATHER, from whom are all things, and we exist FOR Him; and ONE LORD, JESUS CHRIST by whom are all things, and we exist THROUGH Him.”
There is a difference.

If Jesus is The Only LORD how can anyone determine that “The PARAKLETOS” is “LORD” too! “NO WAY”
For many still have no idea what The Biblical Word spelled ,Capital “L O R D” means in the English translation and it is sad.
And Christianity is in a free fall going south.
For so it has been “Prophesies” to do so, by The “Prophets” of old.

I had to say something! Even. If it does not manner.

Answer then.

Is the Father God a Spirit?

 

[God's Truth]

All my biblical centered life, by &reading my bible as a whole I understood the difference between The Father, The SON and The Parakletos of GOD! And I wonder why so many Christian’s have no idea or could understand the difference between The Three but yet one, for the Bible have made it clear as water and clearer than it can be.

I hope you can answer my questions then!

Answer: I read the Book over and over again before The Institutionalize church and there leadings got to me!

God doesn't give understanding to someone just because they read the Bible many times.

God gives understanding to those who obey Him.

Proverbs 1:23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings.

Psalm 119:100 I have more understanding than the elders, for I obey your precepts.

Daniel 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.

John 8:30 Even as he spoke, many believed in him. 31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."