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Ahh... okay, I understand now. You believe in two gospels. Got it. (Clears some things up.)
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I'm sorry. I have you at a disadvantage. I know you to be female, so I ought mention I am male.
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Calvin believed it was okay to execute heretics while Luther did not reform from every dead works of Catholicism either. One can point out hypocrisy if that is what they really teach.;
Yes and They tried to kill Luther for his stand against the Roman Catholic Church. For committing “Heresy too, as well as John Calvin. It was the law if you was found guilty and death was the Penalty. And to put The Bible in the common man’s language or have any portion of The Holy Scripture in the common man’s language and if found guilty by having any portion of the Bible in the common language it was a death penalty by Law!!!!!The Law of the land was death.
And also the church burned Tyndale at the Stake for translating the Bible in the English, and during a certain time it was the church law and honor by The Ruling King it was a death sentence to possess a bible in the common languages.why do you think many fled to “Geneva Switzerland “ and came under the Tutoring under John Calvin, and all of his students of university sent out died violent deaths for proclaiming “The Gospel According To Jesus Christ” not one 0r 2 or 100 ALL die violent Deaths for proclaim the real gospel According to Jesus Christ now how many wounds have you received how many demons and devils have scarred your soul! How many nights have you cried presenting his Gospel, and hours have you spent slaving in the midnight hours reading and studying his word into early mornings without sleep, how many tears have you cried about remember his word . How many dreams have you had still studying his word in your dreams. How many people have Threaten your life for proclaiming the Truth in the church or on street corners in stores and malls and prison systems how many have confess to you they have brought a gun to kill you because your proclaiming of The Proclamation according to Jesus Christ.. How many have you witiness to, those on their dying beds and dying before you face. how many have lied on you just because that you are a A true Child of GOD. Through jealously how many Christian’s have lied on you just because you are bold and stand up in the name of Jesus, how many dopes houses and drug addict and “LBGTQ” have you wrapped yours around and cried with them and held them in your arms. That they could feel the love of GOD flowing from the Spirit of GOD flowing from within you! Are you shame to even embrace one as you feel their pain. Have you cried with a murderer who is lock up in prison, that will never get out, who has been born again and will never get out.
“Faith without works is dead”! I will show you my faith by my works”
Talk and quoting scriptures is cheap!
Tell me about your Works, for the type of works you have done will reveal the kind of Faith you have!
Note I have years in church history behind systematic studies the Reformation period, Roman Empire and The Roman Catholic Church. And I didn’t learn this stuff from jack legs a have over a 1000 hour of Church History. I know about when the thoughts and ways of The Pentecostal ways they have today was tried and investigated that went under another name around the 4th and 5th century and was declared “Heresy”! And was considered “Heresy” and was throw out! and would have the penalty of Death. The 20 century new found Pentecostalism is not new and still is consider “Heresy”. But who will come up against it? just like “Abortions” is accepted and “LBGTQ” is accepted, fornication is accepted, Adultery remarried is accepted , slavery, is accepted and the practice in the Institutionalize church, raping of boys has been accepted and hidden for centuries and centuries in the church and never been reported, and even growing stronger and stronger each day! And the church has only been luke warm about the matters.
and turn a blind eye to such matters ,
corruption is running wild like a mad dog in the churches of this century and many Christian’s are standing and denying The Truth and covering The Truth with lies! Many Christians are lying about knowing and studying the word of GOD with boldness, Straight up lying.
The wages of sin is still death! And God The Father will Judge and The Father will condemn many! But many Christian do not believe the Truth!
But one day we will see, and understand The Power Of “The GOD ALMIGHTY “!
And to many it is not going to be pretty.
We must all live a life of Repentance that we may come into The Knowledge of “Truth”!
It is a lot more than knowing right from wrong”. It is a lot more than saying forgive me Lord for I have sin. The result of committing sins is more to it, than dis obeying GOD, it is a whole lot more to it making wrong choices. It is more to it than just destroying homes.
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I doubt that contest exists. You are exaggerating right now. And you should not use generalities to lobby accusations like that.
The point is to recognize we are saved because it pleases God to save those who believe, 1 Corinthians 1:17-21 ) even in His name for how we are born of God ( John 1:12-13 ).
If saved believers & former believers wish to avoid being left behind in being damned as vessels unto dishonor in His House where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, then they need to go to Jesus Christ for help to see the lies that turned them away from Him into iniquity so they can lean on Him for help to depart from iniquity so they can be found abiding in Him & His words to be received as vessels unto honor in His House for when the Bridegroom comes.
Never heard of them, but since our believing in Him is a work of the Father, is why believers ought to know they are saved when they believe in Jesus Christ for salvation. Now reconciled with God by Jesus Christ, we have power to live as the sons of God by looking to the author & finisher of our faith to help us lay aside every weight & sin daily as we walk in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son, thus living that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ.
Obeying is believing Him for salvation.
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
It is when sinners never believed in Him is how they are condemned "already" because sinners are on that track to hell, the final judgment as a result of sin that separates sinners from God and all that is good..
They cannot repent from all sins when they are slaves to sins until Jesus saves them from their sins. If you & sinners can repent from all sins, then you are your own saviors & Jews could keep the Old Covenant & Christ died in vain.
They cannot believe unless the Father draws them to the Son ( John 6:44 ) to reveal His Son to them, even to babes ( Matthew 11:25-27 ) so they can believe and be saved; thus our believing in Him is a work of God ( John 3:18-21 ).
Without nulling & voiding Jesus words in John 3:15-16? No, you can't which proves you are not rightly dividing the word of truth, brother. Disciplship is separate from salvation. For you to believe you have repented from all sins and never had sinned since you were saved that you NEVER had to go before that throne of grace for forgiveness and help not to do that again, reproves your own beliefs. After salvation there is our going on to perfection which is what running that race & discipleship is all about as well as living that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ which is by faith in Him & His words to us; not by your flesh or will power as if under the law by keeping promises & commitments which is not of faith and NOBODY is going to be boasting in the flesh in Heaven in His Presence for why they will be left behind, capisce? We rely on Jesus for all things; salvation; repenting from all sins daily, & the crowns because those crowns are His crowning achievements in us for why He gets ALL the glory & praise from us.
For salvation, it has to be otherwise Jesus is not able to save those that believe when our believing is a work of the Father & the Son. You are in effect, making the cross of Christ to no effect for you are your own savior as if God is not pleased to save those that believe the preaching of the cross. Cart before the horse again. God is able to save those that believe in Jesus Christ and once saved, they have power with Jesus Christ in them to live daily in repenting from all sins in living that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ.
We... we... we... we have to save ourselves.. we have to obey Jesus .. we have to repent from all sins... we have to finish by the flesh what He began in the Spirit, but oh wait.. He did not even do that. We began in the flesh by repenting from all sins and so we do not need Jesus Christ at all because we can do it and finish it in the flesh. <------------ Is that what you are actually saying? Sounds like it to me.
I obey the gospel by believing in Him is how I am saved but I also believe in Him as my Good Shepherd & Friend to help me to follow Him in living that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ. Those who err and gone astray & no longer abiding in Him are called to repent or else rn he risk of being excommunicated from the Marriage Supper as left behind to die when their spirits will be with the Lord to wait for their resurrection as vessels unto dishonor in His House as vessels of wood & earth that will testify to the power of God in salvation for how God saved those that believed in Him, even in His name.
Because the just shall live by faith in Jesus Christ & His words to us that He is our Good Shepherd & He will help us to follow Him because that is what a shepherd does for his sheep. And if He loses one, as in those that get left behind for not being ready as found abiding in Him, He will get those lost sheep for He shall lose none of all the Father has given Him; period. God has to wipe the tears from their eyes but they will get over their loss & praise Him.
Matthew 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. 11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Prove to me that you had read that scripture above in John 6:39-40 by telling me what the will of the Father in verse 39 is and what the will of the Father is in verse 40.
Tell me what you believe in Jesus Christ for? Salvation? Being able to repent from all sins? Being able to follow Him? Or do you just believe in yourself to do all of that by repenting from all sins by your religious flesh will power?
I am going to avoid the screen name of yours by preaching Jesus Christ as the Truth so readers are not confused.
I have sinned since saved and Jesus has chastened me for them to lead me to repentance by confessing those sins and asking for His help not to do them again. By the way, making promises or a commitment to Jesus is the same thing as boasting in your flesh what you will do tomorrow.
James 4:13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. 15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that. 16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Here is one mistake; I read in the news about a missing older married woman; as I was praying about it driving one day, I had a thought to stop and go up the hill to the cemetery, but I had dismissed it and continued driving on. later I had read that was where she was found. Thing is, I had thoughts like that before that I had acted on but it wasn't anything important nor divine but sometimes it was; like my prophetic dreams even though not all my dreams were divinely sent to show me what is to come, including future sins. He has led me to pray for His intervention upon awakening but sometimes I forget the dream and forget to pray.
But what is that to you? I cannot prove any of this, and even if I shared my faults AND how He rescued me from my many man made yokes of bondages to Christ to rely on Him all the time by faith in following Him, it will go right over your head unless He intervenes.
I doubt you are hearing me when I have been telling you that God is able to save those that believe in Him as He is able to help saved believers repent from all sins daily afterwards for the high prize of our calling to be received by the Bridegroom as that vessel unto honor in His House to attend the Marriage Supper in His honor and to His glory for why the crowns I shall receive, I shall cast them at His feet because He did all as His the glory for bringing me Home.
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Jesus tells us WHO he saves, and he tells us HOW to be saved.
We have to believe and do what Jesus says to do.
Repenting of our sins is part of how and who Jesus saves.
Scripture clearly testifies why God is pleased by in saving and that is those who believe the preaching of the cross.
1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.......21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Once saved, the horse is in front of the cart now as believers have Jesus Christ in them so they can look to Him for help daily in laying aside every weight & sin in walking in the light n fellowship with the Father & the Son thus following Him as His disciples in bearing fruit so that their joy may be full.
We are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and we follow Him by faith in Jesus Christ for how we obey Him because we are trusting Him for everything under that New Covenant that He says He is going to do it.
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No such thing as just believe as pleasing God.
God accepts those who do right.
Acts 10:35 but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.
Paul said that because there were people who were saying they were BAPTIZED UNTO PETER, and some were saying they were baptized unto APOLLOS.
Paul is saying he is glad no one can say that about him.
It doesn't mean Paul didn't believe in water baptism!
Paul and Apollos were a TEAM.
Paul preached the Word and Apollos did the water baptisms.
1 Corinthians 3:6 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow
1 Corinthians 3:4 For when one of you says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere men?
We have to do what Jesus says to do to get saved.
You are preaching against that.
Scripture clearly testifies why God is pleased by in saving and that is those who believe the preaching of the cross.
1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.......21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Once saved, the horse is in front of the cart now as believers have Jesus Christ in them so they can look to Him for help daily in laying aside every weight & sin in walking in the light n fellowship with the Father & the Son thus following Him as His disciples in bearing fruit so that their joy may be full.
We are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and we follow Him by faith in Jesus Christ for how we obey Him because we are trusting Him for everything under that New Covenant that He says He is going to do it.
Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Galatians 5:1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage..... 5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:... 11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.......21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Once saved, the horse is in front of the cart now as believers have Jesus Christ in them so they can look to Him for help daily in laying aside every weight & sin in walking in the light n fellowship with the Father & the Son thus following Him as His disciples in bearing fruit so that their joy may be full.
We are saved by faith in Jesus Christ and we follow Him by faith in Jesus Christ for how we obey Him because we are trusting Him for everything under that New Covenant that He says He is going to do it.
Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Galatians 5:1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage..... 5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:... 11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
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There is a difference between "we are saved because it pleases God to save those who believe," and "we are saved because it pleases God to save anyone He wants and you can't do anything about it."
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Seriously? You've never heard of Reformed Theology and Reformed denominations? Never ran into a Calvinist? A Presbyterian? One from the United Church of Christ?
Okay... well... that tells me something.
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The Gospel initially preached by Paul changed.
(Acts 13:38 KJV) Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
(Doesn't say anything about "The Cross".)
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At Talk Jesus, may God help us all to be align with His words;
1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord. 10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. <---- hence the preaching of the cross.
1 Corinthians 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord. 10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
1 Corinthians 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. <---- hence the preaching of the cross.
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Indeed Paul later taught Christ and him crucified, but during the first part of Paul's ministry he taught exactly as Peter did - Jesus and him resurrected:
(Acts 13:38-39 KJV) Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Believe? Believe what? The teachings of Jesus, of course, His (Jesus') teaching about how one is forgiven (cf. Mat. 6:12,14,15). How can one's sins be forgiven and yet not be "saved"?
I quote from a set of First Principles:
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(So my sins are forgiven, but I still wind up in hell? How does that make sense?)
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At Talk Jesus, may God help us all to be aligned with Jesus' words;
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You are still using those cute little emojis.Rhema
(So my sins are forgiven, but I still wind up in hell? How does that make sense?)
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Paul's gospel didn't change. There is only one gospel that saves, and it is what Jesus and the other apostles taught.
