So is Honoring our Mother and Father and Elders is only A Conditional of Earning That Respect as being taught today through “Christianity” if so why

[God's Truth]

Sorry, but I cannot help it, for I am to reply in relating to this matter in an unorthodox manner.

For There are over “5 Billion copies of The Bible in the World”!
And I do believe the text in question is copied in All “5+ Billion copies” and I do believe it is your “Book” too, if you ain’t “Tore it Out”

Because you sure act like you know “”The Book”!

I do and it is not an act.

And Quess what? I am not, a “Librarian”

You only need one Bible.

You sure know how to make me laugh, you have the gift to do so, you make sure you stay around, you spice up my life in a unique way.

Now that makes me happy to hear that. You can count on me.

Now tell me, how much, do you love me.

Awww, you give me an insult and a compliment all in the same post..

 

[God's Truth]

Where do you get that no one could keep the law?

@PloughBoy

You want to tell me why you think no one could keep the law?

It is because Luther and Calvin wrongly say so.

There were many people who kept the law.

Here is one:

Luke 1:5In the time of Herod king of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah, and whose wife Elizabeth was a daughter of Aaron. 6They were both righteous in the sight of God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and decrees of the Lord.

I gave one scripture but there are many more.

 

[Mister]

All of those dishonoring times I wished I had the knowledge and the love of the spiritual laws that I do this day.

By Honoring our Mothers and Fathers by “The WaY”the Bible expresses it, by its “Bibical Characters” that are in it. We “Honor GOD” by Honoring we honor our parents.

The “Mark” is Honoring “GOD”.

This is the primary of all of our doings, and coupling it with a thanks to GOD! Doing things for people [including myself] first, I will end up like one walking in Memphis in the late night hours of Tyson v Holyfield rematch: without a way, alone, and hoping for the crack of dawn!

 

[God's Truth]

Subject Heading:- So is Honoring our Mother and Father and Elders is only A Conditional of Earning That Respect as being taught today through “Christianity” if so why​

The word 'honour' and it's derivatives make a good study, eg., :-

'How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another,
and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?'
(Joh 5:44)

'Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God?
Shall the thing formed say to Him that formed it,
Why hast thou made me thus?
Hath not the potter power over the clay,
of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour,
and another unto dishonour?
(Rom 9:20-21)

No one is saved unless you obey Jesus' commands.

God says honor your mother and father, and all I do is see you trying to get out of that and teach others it is wrong.

 

[God's Truth]

All of those dishonoring times I wished I had the knowledge and the love of the spiritual laws that I do this day.

Amen. Me too. If I had only known the truth as I know now.

 

[PloughBoy]

I do and it is not an act.

You only need one Bible.

Now that makes me happy to hear that. You can count on me.

Awww, you give me an insult and a compliment all in the same post..

“BitterSweet” is my “ treat, to you. My sweet. that is “Sweeter than The Honeycomb’s treat.

 

[Garee]

We have to believe that we have to obey this man named Jesus.

The Jews used to only know of God the Father, and now they are told they have to go through Jesus, the Son of God.

All the Jews know they had to obey God the Father, and now they had to believe that they have to obey the Son to remain the Father's.

John 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.

I would disagree with "used to only know of God the Father. The unbelieving faithless outward Jew according to the flesh did have faith in the man Abraham as if he was God .

Jesu called it one of the think no doctrines .Think not of having faith according the flesh of Abraham as if he was in the place of our Holy Father in heaven in respect fathers on earth

Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

God defines a true Jew as born again Christians the new name he named his bride the church. Formally calling her Israel, Christian the more befitting name for the bride of many nation . Literally meaning residence of the heavenly city prepared as the bride by her husband and founder Christ,

Romans 2:28-29King James Version28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

The born again inward Jew received the end of their new born again faith the salvation of their soul from the beginning of God .s labor of love giving them ears to hear his understanding .

The true Jew as a Christian below

1 Peter1:8 -11Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

 

[God's Truth]

“BitterSweet” is my “ treat, to you. My sweet. that is “Sweeter than The Honeycomb’s treat.

BitterSweet doesn't sound good.
I am the one with the sweetness sweeter than the honey comb!
Come on and try and taste.

 

[Garee]

Subject Heading:- So is Honoring our Mother and Father and Elders is only A Conditional of Earning That Respect as being taught today through “Christianity” if so why​

The word 'honour' and it's derivatives make a good study, eg., :-

'How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another,
and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?'
(Joh 5:44)

'Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God?
Shall the thing formed say to Him that formed it,
Why hast thou made me thus?
Hath not the potter power over the clay,
of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour,
and another unto dishonour?
(Rom 9:20-21)

Yes the word honor is a balance scale term . One side the honor weight as law the other grace the balancing power . We give the weight to God as a loving law and the grace making us wiling participants .

Not as I will but you the one with the power or balancing weight.

 

[God's Truth]

I would disagree with "used to only know of God the Father.

They only used to know God the Father.

The unbelieving faithless outward Jew according to the flesh did have faith in the man Abraham as if he was God .

No scripture says some Jews believed Abraham was as God.
The unbelieving faithless did not have faith they were faithless.

Jesu called it one of the think no doctrines .Think not of having faith according the flesh of Abraham as if he was in the place of our Holy Father in heaven in respect fathers on earth

Mathew 3: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

Did you read that scripture?
It does not say what you said it does.
They can't claim to have the same beliefs as Abraham.

God defines a true Jew as born again Christians the new name he named his bride the church. Formally calling her Israel, Christian the more befitting name for the bride of many nation . Literally meaning residence of the heavenly city prepared as the bride by her husband and founder Christ,

Romans 2:28-29King James Version28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

The born again inward Jew received the end of their new born again faith the salvation of their soul from the beginning of God .s labor of love giving them ears to hear his understanding .

The true Jew as a Christian below

1 Peter1:8 -11Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

We have to believe that we have to obey this man named Jesus.

The Jews used to only know of God the Father, and now they are told they have to go through Jesus, the Son of God.

All the Jews know they had to obey God the Father, and now they had to believe that they have to obey the Son to remain the Father's.

John 17:6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.

 

[PloughBoy]

BitterSweet doesn't sound good.
I am the one with the sweetness sweeter than the honey comb!
Come on and try and taste.

American Standard Version
The full soul loatheth a honeycomb; But to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet.

 

[God's Truth]

American Standard Version
The full soul loatheth a honeycomb; But to the hungry soul every bitter thing is sweet.

You speak of bitter things and I speak of things sweeter than honey.
You decide for yourself which is better.

 

[Garee]

They only used to know God the Father.

They worshipped the flesh of Abraham as if he was the unseen father as God . The inward born again Jew called no man on earth father . One is in heaven . A true born again Jew or a Gentile is a Christian.

 

[God's Truth]

They worshipped the flesh of Abraham as if he was the unseen father as God .

No. Where does the Bible say that?

The inward born again Jew called no man on earth father . One is in heaven . A true born again Jew or a Gentile is a Christian.

The Jews used to call Abraham their father, they were blood related to him.

As for Christians, Abraham is our father by faith.

 

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Hahahahaha You say that to her but you don't do what you say. You always run from discussion.

'Whoso offereth praise glorifieth Me'.
(Psalm 50:23a)

Hello @God's Truth,

Sometimes the disparity of thought expressed, or the perspectives shown, reveal that we are very different in our concepts, but it is not for us to point at the differences of perspective in another and say that they are wrong, for we are God's workmanship, His garden, and He is working in each one of us to will and to do of His good pleasure, His Word alone must be the arbiter between us.

My husband is walking around the garden of our home here, I can see him through the window, his hands behind his back, absorbed in looking at the flowers blooming in the garden borders: his pleasure and satisfaction is obvious, as he admires the colours and the internal beauty each one is revealing as they unfurl in the light. He is reaping the reward of the many hours spent planting the seeds, feeding and watering them, as he watches them grow.

May God be blessed as He looks on us, and sees the implanted Word take root and grow in us, to the glory of His love and grace.

Thank you for life and light Lord! May you be blessed in us.
In Christ Jesus
Christine (your seedling)

 

[complete]

' Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints,
.. is this grace given,
.... that I should preach among the Gentiles
...... the unsearchable riches of Christ;
........ And to make all men see
.......... what is the fellowship of the mystery,
............ which from the beginning of the world
.............. hath been hid in God,
................ Who created all things by Jesus Christ:
To the intent that now
.. unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places
.... might be known by the church
...... the manifold wisdom of God,
........ According to the eternal purpose which He purposed
.......... in Christ Jesus our Lord:
............ In Whom we have boldness and access with confidence
.............. by the faith of Him.'
(Eph 3:8-12)

* Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Worship Him, give glory to Him. Bloom in His garden and glorify His Name.
For we are, in Christ Jesus, God's Son, fearfully and wonderfully made.

Praise His Holy Name!!

 

[complete]

'Render therefore to all their dues:
tribute to whom tribute is due;
custom to whom custom;
fear to whom fear;
honour to whom honour.
Owe no man any thing,
but to love one another:
for he that loveth another
hath fulfilled the law.'
(Rom 13:7)

 

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So is Honoring our Mother and Father and Elders is only A Conditional of Earning That Respect as being taught today through “Christianity” if so why​

was Jesus wrong?

4For God said, Honor thy father and thy mother: and, He that speaketh evil of father or mother, let him die the death. 5But ye say, whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, That wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is given to God ; 6he shall not honor his father. And ye have made void the word of God because of your tradition.

Did Jesus change His Mind?

Hello @PloughBoy,

The Pharisees sought to avoid their obligations to parents, by saying piously, '... that wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is given to God ... '. The Lord shows that such religiosity is beneath contempt. For if a man is not looking after those in his care, no amount of pious show will cover that neglect, or make it excusable in God's sight. They were making 'void' (eg., of none effect) the word of God by their traditions.

* The Lord ensured the well-being of his Mother by entrusting her to John before His death. He saw to His obligations as a man, by honouring his Mother, for in doing so He was also honouring His Father, God Himself, Whose will and purpose He had come to fulfil.

* Yet the Lord also said:- ' He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.' (Mat 10:37)

* So, No! Jesus was not wrong, and He did not change His mind. For, He only did and said what He saw His Heavenly Father doing: He did not come to do His own will, but the will of Him that sent Him.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[PloughBoy]

So is Honoring our Mother and Father and Elders is only A Conditional of Earning That Respect as being taught today through “Christianity” if so why​

Hello @PloughBoy,

The Pharisees sought to avoid their obligations to parents, by saying piously, '... that wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is given to God ... '. The Lord shows that such religiosity is beneath contempt. For if a man is not looking after those in his care, no amount of pious show will cover that neglect, or make it excusable in God's sight. They were making 'void' (eg., of none effect) the word of God by their traditions.

* The Lord ensured the well-being of his Mother by entrusting her to John before His death. He saw to His obligations as a man, by honouring his Mother, for in doing so He was also honouring His Father, God Himself, Whose will and purpose He had come to fulfil.

* Yet the Lord also said:- ' He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.' (Mat 10:37)

* So, No! Jesus was not wrong, and He did not change His mind. For, He only did and said what He saw His Heavenly Father doing: He did not come to do His own will, but the will of Him that sent Him.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

I am not disagreeing with you whatsoever here, but will ask a question.

In this portion of your statement; Did you mean “human” or the gender “man”? Pertaining to the whole content of your statement?

Your quote:
The Lord shows that such religiosity is beneath contempt. For if a man is not looking after those in his care,

 

[God's Truth]

'Whoso offereth praise glorifieth Me'.
(Psalm 50:23a)

Hello @God's Truth,

Sometimes the disparity of thought expressed, or the perspectives shown, reveal that we are very different in our concepts, but it is not for us to point at the differences of perspective in another and say that they are wrong, for we are God's workmanship, His garden, and He is working in each one of us to will and to do of His good pleasure, His Word alone must be the arbiter between us.

My husband is walking around the garden of our home here, I can see him through the window, his hands behind his back, absorbed in looking at the flowers blooming in the garden borders: his pleasure and satisfaction is obvious, as he admires the colours and the internal beauty each one is revealing as they unfurl in the light. He is reaping the reward of the many hours spent planting the seeds, feeding and watering them, as he watches them grow.

May God be blessed as He looks on us, and sees the implanted Word take root and grow in us, to the glory of His love and grace.

Thank you for life and light Lord! May you be blessed in us.
In Christ Jesus
Christine (your seedling)

While that was a lovely picture of your beliefs and you telling me not to speak against another's beliefs, even though a person says they are a Bible believer and have only One God...that same God and Bible says to contend for the faith, and explains it is the right thing to do when you correct another, and even vigorously refute others in public debate concerning the things of God.