Mother Mary

[MedicBravo]

Pretty sure that Jesus at no point states "Worship and venerate my earthly mother."

 

[rstrats]

he passage where Jesus instructs His disciple to take care of His mother Mary is found in the Gospel of John. Here is the relevant scripture from the King James Version (KJV):
John 19:26-27"When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home."

In this passage, Jesus, while on the cross, speaks to His mother Mary and the disciple whom He loved (commonly understood to be John). He entrusts the care of His mother to this disciple, ensuring she would be looked after following His death. This moment highlights Jesus' compassion and concern for His mother's well-being, even in His final moments.

You are just guessing that is what He's doing because He didn't voice that instruction, at least not in that verse. He merely told her to look at her son, and he merely told her son to look at her. If He wanted to be clear, why do you suppose He didn't simply tell her son to take care of her?

 

[First and the Last]

You are just guessing that is what He's doing because He didn't voice that instruction, at least not in that verse. He merely told her to look at her son, and he merely told her son to look at her. If He wanted to be clear, why do you suppose He didn't simply tell her son to take care of her?

John 19:26-27"When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home."

Explain in your own words what I highlighted in bold means?

 

[rstrats]

John 19:26-27"When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home."

Explain in your own words what I highlighted in bold means?

I assume it means what it says. What's your point?

 

[First and the Last]

I assume it means what it says. What's your point?

The phrase "that disciple took her unto his own home" is found in John 19:27 (KJV), and it refers to the apostle John taking care of Jesus' mother, Mary, after Jesus' crucifixion. The full verse reads:


Here's what it means in context:

1. Jesus' Concern for Mary: While Jesus was on the cross, He saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved (generally understood to be John) standing nearby. In an act of compassion and responsibility, Jesus entrusted the care of His mother to John.
2. John's Responsibility: By saying "Behold thy mother" to John, Jesus was asking him to take on the responsibility of caring for Mary as if she were his own mother. This was important because, as Jesus was dying, He wanted to ensure that Mary would be looked after.
3. Immediate Action: The phrase "from that hour" indicates that John immediately accepted this responsibility. "Took her unto his own home" means that John took Mary into his household, providing for her and ensuring her well-being from that moment on.

Mary according to this Scripture Jesus is now saying is John's mother to take care of.

 

[Brad Huber]

The phrase "that disciple took her unto his own home" is found in John 19:27 (KJV), and it refers to the apostle John taking care of Jesus' mother, Mary, after Jesus' crucifixion. The full verse reads:


Here's what it means in context:

1. Jesus' Concern for Mary: While Jesus was on the cross, He saw His mother and the disciple whom He loved (generally understood to be John) standing nearby. In an act of compassion and responsibility, Jesus entrusted the care of His mother to John.
2. John's Responsibility: By saying "Behold thy mother" to John, Jesus was asking him to take on the responsibility of caring for Mary as if she were his own mother. This was important because, as Jesus was dying, He wanted to ensure that Mary would be looked after.
3. Immediate Action: The phrase "from that hour" indicates that John immediately accepted this responsibility. "Took her unto his own home" means that John took Mary into his household, providing for her and ensuring her well-being from that moment on.

Mary according to this Scripture Jesus is now saying is John's mother to take care of.

People cannot learn anything when their minds are closed. Lots of minds that are proud to be closed here. That can be good in keeping heresies to a minimum, but it doesnt allow for recognition of a truth when they see it stated.

 

[Bill]

Pretty sure that Jesus at no point states "Worship and venerate my earthly mother."

There's a difference between having great honor and worshiping. As the Israelites knew very well. They also had great honor for the Covenant box, but they did not worship it

 

[MedicBravo]

All prayer and praise is to be to God only.
I don't care what words they use they treat her like an idol among other things.

 

[Br. Bear]

Greetings,

Where was Joseph at the time that Jesus spoke to John regarding mother?


Bless you all ....><>

 

[Bill]

Greetings,

Where was Joseph at the time that Jesus spoke to John regarding mother?


Bless you all ....><>

In Catholic tradition Joseph died early, even before Jesus went into his public Ministry

 

[rstrats]

1. By saying "Behold thy mother" to John, Jesus was asking him to take on the responsibility of caring for Mary as if she were his own mother.

How do you know she wasn't the disciple's mother?

 

[First and the Last]

How do you know she wasn't the disciple's mother?

This was not one of Jesus' brothers.

 

[rstrats]

This was not one of Jesus' brothers.

How do you know that?

 

[First and the Last]

How do you know that?

1. He wouldn't have to say behold your Mother if He already knew she was.
2. How do you know He was?

 

[EverlastingWinter]

All prayer and praise is to be to God only.
I don't care what words they use they treat her like an idol among other things.

Many Catholics regard Mary as a significant figure, often seeing her as the second Ark of the Covenant due to her status. They praise her and look up to her in their faith. Similarly, the Jewish people performed rituals with the Ark of the Covenant, so I believe there is a parallel in how figures of reverence are treated across different traditions.

Personally, I will always pray to her half as much as I would pray to the Lord. However, it's important to keep in mind the nuances of religion and devotion. Please note I said devotion and not idolization.

Additionally, it might be more meaningful to look up to figures like Mary rather than the celebrities and singers that many young people idolize.

Your not wrong though, their could be a few people in any church that may idolise her however that needs to be corrected as its considered a sin, you can be devoted to her which is fine.

Holy Mary was a wonderful Saint, and ones story should always be remembered.

 

[MedicBravo]

In a good Christian community if someone's mother is in such a situation and they know they won't be able to to take care of her then it makes sense to ask and they to do so.

Many Catholics regard Mary as a significant figure, often seeing her as the second Ark of the Covenant due to her status. They praise her and look up to her in their faith. Similarly, the Jewish people performed rituals with the Ark of the Covenant, so I believe there is a parallel in how figures of reverence are treated across different traditions.

Personally, I will always pray to her half as much as I would pray to the Lord. However, it's important to keep in mind the nuances of religion and devotion. Please note I said devotion and not idolization.

Additionally, it might be more meaningful to look up to figures like Mary rather than the celebrities and singers that many young people idolize.

Your not wrong though, their could be a few people in any church that may idolise her however that needs to be corrected as its considered a sin, you can be devoted to her which is fine.

Holy Mary was a wonderful Saint, and ones story should always be remembered.

1. There are many, far more significant than her. When a Christian, fell at the sight of an angel did they no correct them in "I am but a serant also." and "All praise and worship are to God."
2. What "status"? Yes, she was chosen and only God knows the reasons why. Were there other women up for it? Sure. God did choose her and no one will come up with the correct answer.
3. Jews aren't Christians and do NOT believe in the divinity of Jesus.
4. You're 3rd is irrelevant and ass umes I'm making blind/bland statements.
5. I'm not wrong and I'm those on this stance are many especially people who know more than 99% of people here. I've come to the same conclusion from my own learning and from them.
6. Few? Oh, there's far more than a "few" who do. In fact, her grave is known and her bones have been dug up to be paraded around like some "supernaturally powered relic". Pretty sure those instructions are NOT in the Bible.
7. Not just me, but my gut instincts knows there's far more people in Bible history worth regarding as Saints.

Again, show me where in any shape the Bible states by/for Jesus, "Venerate/put above everyone else my earthly mother."

 

[Twistie]

Holy spirit is NOT the author. It was written by human beings, in their language which you and me should understand till the end of times. Of course the Holy spirit has prompted them and was dwelling within them while carrying out this holy work.

If you want to see the difference between the original scriptures and what we have now, at least refer the Vulgate and Peshitha, that should be available in your nearest Church libraries. Do a fair translation with the available tools. And then, you too will be shocked like me and many other.

Sunny.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth"

: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God"

holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"

To Claim the Holy Spirit is not the author makes me want to ask you

Do you hear Him??

 

[EverlastingWinter]

In a good Christian community if someone's mother is in such a situation and they know they won't be able to to take care of her then it makes sense to ask and they to do so.

1. There are many, far more significant than her. When a Christian, fell at the sight of an angel did they no correct them in "I am but a serant also." and "All praise and worship are to God."
2. What "status"? Yes, she was chosen and only God knows the reasons why. Were there other women up for it? Sure. God did choose her and no one will come up with the correct answer.
3. Jews aren't Christians and do NOT believe in the divinity of Jesus.
4. You're 3rd is irrelevant and ass umes I'm making blind/bland statements.
5. I'm not wrong and I'm those on this stance are many especially people who know more than 99% of people here. I've come to the same conclusion from my own learning and from them.
6. Few? Oh, there's far more than a "few" who do. In fact, her grave is known and her bones have been dug up to be paraded around like some "supernaturally powered relic". Pretty sure those instructions are NOT in the Bible.
7. Not just me, but my gut instincts knows there's far more people in Bible history worth regarding as Saints.

Again, show me where in any shape the Bible states by/for Jesus, "Venerate/put above everyone else my earthly mother."

Ahh I forgot who I was talking to, I am sorry for being insensitive. I shall happily discuss these with you, though I dislike numbers as they seem to be a bit upfront and harsh when its a discussion.

The again comment at the lower part, their isn't as it shouldn't. Anyone who does needs to read the book, devotions to Holy Mary as it describes who she was and can follow in her footsteps like any other saint. She shouldn't be idolized upon, I said this before. Its better then following the footsteps of others at the moment.

The first comment,
Sure their are many who have done accomplished things, though you forget a mothers duty is to care for her child and she did a very good job at raising her child and staying and caring for him, even being next to him during death. I think that is a role model among parents. Just because you have little impact in the world doesn't mean that you have not done anything good. She was devoted to God and respected her husband, was obedient and raised her son before he told her to no longer do so ( When he called her woman instead of mother). She should be a role model to any good christian wife. She also did not wish to be mentioned much, she was modest in all her acts.

The second comment,
She was the mother of Jesus our Lour and our savior. God chose this particular woman and I agree that it will only be him that would know the answer. She was one of the woman from a very strict orthodox Jewish church so it could be related to that- she was very disciplined and devoted to God. One of the many at the time.

The third Comment,
I am aware.... Holy Mary was Jewish and continued these traditions even after Jesus's birth. She accepted him as Lord hence why she would have been the first set of Christians.

The fourth Comment,
I am sorry you feel that way.

The fifth comment,
Anyone will say that after studying and coming with your beliefs, people will have separate beliefs and thoughts. Hence why we are humans... we have freedom to belief what we see and study about. I wonder if theirs a forum that exists where we an spread this beliefs and thoughts? ( Little joke sorry)

Please do not state you are wrong, it demonstrates a closed mindset or sense of authority- even if you say most people are 99%- it suggests you look down at people its not very freindly. It could stop more unassuming people from speaking up and entering the discussion.

The sigth comment,
I guess so...... she touched Jesus many times and it was stated in the Bible that someone touched His robe and was curied of leprosy. Though I do hope they keep her at rest and not show case it like you said, she was a modest woman and probably would not like what is being done with her remains.Many churches can be wrong, I do agree with you.
The only one I would visit is the Saint, forgot her name so will put here when I remember, who wanted her bones to travel as it was her dream to visit the world to help people and teach the word of the Lord. ( she was a nun but died at a very young age).

The seventh Comment,

Their are many reasons on why someone becomes a saint, she exacted everything as good christian mother should, she should set an example of all woman and wives. Devoted to her God and obientent to her husband. All of the apostles became saints and many people in the Bible are saints. Every saints has a incredible story, Holy Marys is just one that is quite modest so its best looking up what she has done, other then being the mother of our Savior.


I have to go to work now so I shall ammend this later

 

[Brad Huber]

In a good Christian community if someone's mother is in such a situation and they know they won't be able to to take care of her then it makes sense to ask and they to do so.

1. There are many, far more significant than her. When a Christian, fell at the sight of an angel did they no correct them in "I am but a serant also." and "All praise and worship are to God."
2. What "status"? Yes, she was chosen and only God knows the reasons why. Were there other women up for it? Sure. God did choose her and no one will come up with the correct answer.
3. Jews aren't Christians and do NOT believe in the divinity of Jesus.
4. You're 3rd is irrelevant and ass umes I'm making blind/bland statements.
5. I'm not wrong and I'm those on this stance are many especially people who know more than 99% of people here. I've come to the same conclusion from my own learning and from them.
6. Few? Oh, there's far more than a "few" who do. In fact, her grave is known and her bones have been dug up to be paraded around like some "supernaturally powered relic". Pretty sure those instructions are NOT in the Bible.
7. Not just me, but my gut instincts knows there's far more people in Bible history worth regarding as Saints.

Again, show me where in any shape the Bible states by/for Jesus, "Venerate/put above everyone else my earthly mother."

Saying that Mary wasnt any more righteous than alot of other righteous women demeans the Lord that He would choose her by simple lottery.

 

[Charlie24]

Saying that Mary wasnt any more righteous than alot of other righteous women demeans the Lord that He would choose her by simple lottery.

I don't know how narrow the field was, but her lineage had to go back to David, and Joseph also.

That was a promise to David.